GT. Bring him back.
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GT. Bring him back.
I would love GT to be a part of the club again.
Very smart man who I believe could once again contribute positively.
Instead of the club paying him out, get him back on board, the man is a natural player manager.
I find it a bit hard to understand a lot of the negative vibes he gets around here when we all know how many positives he introduced.
I still reckon he has the club at heart.
Very smart man who I believe could once again contribute positively.
Instead of the club paying him out, get him back on board, the man is a natural player manager.
I find it a bit hard to understand a lot of the negative vibes he gets around here when we all know how many positives he introduced.
I still reckon he has the club at heart.
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Re: GT
The Fireman wrote:I would love GT to be a part of the club again.
, the man is a natural player manager.
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Hall
Everitt
Black
GTrain
Guerra
Fiora
?????? How did the natural player manager go???
Answer....anyone with issues was put into the too hard basket...
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Exactly why I did it, most were saying what a great job he was doing at the time, the way he kept our stars at the club for less, and got us into the finals but all of a sudden some on here want to burn the guy at the stake, silly really when you think about it.st.byron wrote:Crikey Fireman. Love him or hate him, leave him in the past. He's suing the club. Hard to see them extend the hand of welcome.
And did you really have to post this?
You know what's going to happen.
He is after some money? Maybe he is owed it, his mate Rod may not have handled things as best he could.
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Re: GT
??? Don't quite understand this post, Guerra dumped because he lost form.saintsRrising wrote:The Fireman wrote:I would love GT to be a part of the club again.
, the man is a natural player manager.
.
Hall
Everitt
Black
GTrain
Guerra
Fiora
?????? How did the natural player manager go???
Answer....anyone with issues was put into the too hard basket...
No one in Melb could have kept Black, his wife wanted him back in WA.
Hall??? Money hungry mercenary.
Everitt... a cancer that destroys clubs he goes to.
The G and Fiora , what is the problem there?
Please enlighten me, strange post.
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What makes you say that....???The Fireman wrote:
, the way he kept our stars at the club for less, .
He paid the maximum of the salary cap....and actually overpaid the playing group so that we had to play upto 2 players short.
Why is his performance better than other clubs who managed to keep their players and play with full lists?
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Re: GT
You stated that GT was a natural player manager......and yet virtually all the players on the list with attitude problems either floundered, tread water or were shown the door.The Fireman wrote:??? Don't quite understand this post, Guerra dumped because he lost form.saintsRrising wrote:The Fireman wrote:I would love GT to be a part of the club again.
, the man is a natural player manager.
.
Hall
Everitt
Black
GTrain
Guerra
Fiora
?????? How did the natural player manager go???
Answer....anyone with issues was put into the too hard basket...
No one in Melb could have kept Black, his wife wanted him back in WA.
Hall??? Money hungry mercenary.
Everitt... a cancer that destroys clubs he goes to.
The G and Fiora , what is the problem there?
Please enlighten me, strange post.
Would not a natural player manager be able to turn around players?
Indeed would that actually be the real test of a natural player manager.
Should he not in fact shone in this reagrd if he was outstanding?????
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Personally I think GT would've been a great footbal manager. If thats what he wanted to do.
But not now I don't think he could be trusted to stay in that position or not step over the mark. Don't forget he brings a lot of bagage with him for remaining staff and players both good and bad that could disrupt the playing group.
But not now I don't think he could be trusted to stay in that position or not step over the mark. Don't forget he brings a lot of bagage with him for remaining staff and players both good and bad that could disrupt the playing group.
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Re: GT
But he has, it shows that he was on the money when players on the list with attitude problems that either floundered, tread water were shown the door. You have just shown a glowing endorsement of GT, well done, let's see if we can't get more back on boardsaintsRrising wrote:You stated that GT was a natural player manager......and yet virtually all the players on the list with attitude problems either floundered, tread water or were shown the door.The Fireman wrote:??? Don't quite understand this post, Guerra dumped because he lost form.saintsRrising wrote:The Fireman wrote:I would love GT to be a part of the club again.
, the man is a natural player manager.
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Hall
Everitt
Black
GTrain
Guerra
Fiora
?????? How did the natural player manager go???
Answer....anyone with issues was put into the too hard basket...
No one in Melb could have kept Black, his wife wanted him back in WA.
Hall??? Money hungry mercenary.
Everitt... a cancer that destroys clubs he goes to.
The G and Fiora , what is the problem there?
Please enlighten me, strange post.
Would not a natural player manager be able to turn around players?
Indeed would that actually be the real test of a natural player manager.
Should he not in fact shone in this reagrd if he was outstanding?????
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I think the only problems he had was with the Pres.ausfatcat wrote:Personally I think GT would've been a great footbal manager. If thats what he wanted to do.
But not now I don't think he could be trusted to stay in that position or not step over the mark. Don't forget he brings a lot of bagage with him for remaining staff and players both good and bad that could disrupt the playing group.
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You knew he wasn't going to coach us to a flag????? We all knew?????Batnoe wrote:I didnt mind GT until all of this talk about wanting to get paid out- yes a real clubman
And even tho i liked him once, he was never the coach to take us to a flag, we all knew that, he wouldnt share anything around so he couldnt focus on the one thing we hired him for- coach
I wish you had of enlightened us a lot sooner.
I can only imagine how much faith you had in Tony Jewell
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This is a bit off topic, but I heard the Baker's brother is going out with one of GT's daughters, not relevant just throwing it out there...
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GT's great people skills????
Last job at The Age....told to leave for attacking a fellow employee (in work places today that is known to not be accptable behavious. Someone that is suposedly an outstanding people manger should know this....and not only know it should be a shining example...)
Prior job..the Saints. In the end could not work properly with his employer...the Board. Odd for a people guy???
Large turnover in assistants. Either the people manager was hiring the wrong guys......or could not work with them....
A large chunk of the list could not work with him.
and if one believes the rumours it was the CEO rather than the prez that instaigated GT's departure.
Football position prior to that The kangaroos where he left in a blaze of bad blood.
Now mount an argument if you will that he could coach......but please forget the myth that GT was a a great player manager, a great people person....for he was not and is not.
Last job at The Age....told to leave for attacking a fellow employee (in work places today that is known to not be accptable behavious. Someone that is suposedly an outstanding people manger should know this....and not only know it should be a shining example...)
Prior job..the Saints. In the end could not work properly with his employer...the Board. Odd for a people guy???
Large turnover in assistants. Either the people manager was hiring the wrong guys......or could not work with them....
A large chunk of the list could not work with him.
and if one believes the rumours it was the CEO rather than the prez that instaigated GT's departure.
Football position prior to that The kangaroos where he left in a blaze of bad blood.
Now mount an argument if you will that he could coach......but please forget the myth that GT was a a great player manager, a great people person....for he was not and is not.
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The Fireman wrote:You knew he wasn't going to coach us to a flag????? We all knew?????Batnoe wrote:I didnt mind GT until all of this talk about wanting to get paid out- yes a real clubman
And even tho i liked him once, he was never the coach to take us to a flag, we all knew that, he wouldnt share anything around so he couldnt focus on the one thing we hired him for- coach
I wish you had of enlightened us a lot sooner.
I can only imagine how much faith you had in Tony Jewell
Why do you think they sacked him?
Why did we get 8th in his 4th year as coach?
He went backwards, yes i was hoping he would take us there, but he didnt like ruckmen and he always played injured or under done players because of their name, not because of their form. I think a player (like Luke Ball) could Sue for playing with an injury and now he is still unable to cope with it.
What about all the other ppl that we have had at the club that we can get back instead of GT? Loewe, Frawley, Winmar. Surely they will have more value that GT, someone who is still trying to get paid out when he said the dispute had been resolved
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People skills and player management skills are different things altogether.
Grant Thomas was great for our club. He built a list of quality people, not just quality players.
He got rid of the bad eggs, and let go players that didnt want to be there. That is good player management. He built a loyal group, that wanted - and still want - to make history. Together.
THAT, is good player management.
Grant Thomas was great for our club. He built a list of quality people, not just quality players.
He got rid of the bad eggs, and let go players that didnt want to be there. That is good player management. He built a loyal group, that wanted - and still want - to make history. Together.
THAT, is good player management.