Grant Thomas the parasite
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One word sums up you on this topic. Loser.barks4eva wrote:Excatly, well saidsaint66au wrote:Spinner has been warned for abuse and his coment deleted
Unfortunately the topic of GT is relevant at the moment. Its been stated by the Club that they are putting money aside in case its needed to pay him out later. The discussion of this is therefore totally acceptable on the ForumHowever, as most people know, the topic of Grant Thomas raises more hackles and causes more tears than any other subject raised here. More posts have been locked on him than every other subject combined I reckon. All we ask is that you show some respect to your fellow posters when discussing it..or this thread will be locked too.
Yes Barks drives many many people crazy on here, but he's as entitled to his opinion as anyone. Have a look around. every Forum on the Internet with our kind of traffic has a Barks on it. Passionate about the cause but cant quite help himself when it comes to a pet topic to bang on about.
Please, discuss the topic with passion but a modicum of common sense. Allow others their opinion (Yes Barks AND St Fid this means you both) without calling them names. Play the ball not the man
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If this scum sucking leech and bloodsucking parasite wasn't eroding the St.Kilda Football Cub's bottomline then this thread would not exist
Fact is, he is
Q. Why is $700,000 dissapearing off the club's bottomline for 2007?
A. Grant Thomas
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Thomas was responsible for signing Hamill to a long term deal which has cost the club $400,000 off the bottomline for 2007saint66au wrote:A provision of $270,000 is also understood to have been set aside for the contested claim Thomas has against the club for what he maintains are unpaid entitlements.
Not quite $700,000 Barks..and it all might still come to naught..lets hope so eh??:-)
Already the club had to pay out Penny when he went cactus after two years of a five year deal which Thomas was also responsible for
If Grant Thomas feels that he's been hard done by when he was on $500,000 from the get go, straight up without any previous AFL coaching experience and by his own admission was appointed through a flawed process, and all up was paid over 2.5 million dollars, then FAIR DINKUM how greedy can this pissant be?
Of the $270,000, $167,000 is for holiday pay, which he's even signed a stat dec stating that he's already been paid, in full
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I do mean FAIR DINKUM
At least we now have a professionally run football department with Matthew Drain, who Thomas refused to work with, instead preferring to give even more tasks to his boy wonder bundy
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We all saw how much of a c**k up Rendell made at the draft today when he called out the wrong number
Rendell was responsible for the decision to recruit Brooks and both he and Thomas gave up pick 6 and 31 for him
What a fair dinkum bunch of drop kicks
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You have to get some sort of life and quickly before the rest of us go insane like yourself.barks4eva wrote:Thomas was responsible for signing Hamill to a long term deal which has cost the club $400,000 off the bottomline for 2007saint66au wrote:A provision of $270,000 is also understood to have been set aside for the contested claim Thomas has against the club for what he maintains are unpaid entitlements.
Not quite $700,000 Barks..and it all might still come to naught..lets hope so eh??:-)
Already the club had to pay out Penny when he went cactus after two years of a five year deal which Thomas was also responsible for
If Grant Thomas feels that he's been hard done by when he was on $500,000 from the get go, straight up without any previous AFL coaching experience and by his own admission was appointed through a flawed process, and all up was paid over 2.5 million dollars, then FAIR DINKUM how greedy can this pissant be?
Of the $270,000, $167,000 is for holiday pay, which he's even signed a stat dec stating that he's already been paid, in full![]()
I do mean FAIR DINKUM
At least we now have a professionally run football department with Matthew Drain, who Thomas refused to work with, instead preferring to give even more tasks to his boy wonder bundy![]()
We all saw how much of a c**k up Rendell made at the draft today when he called out the wrong number
Rendell was responsible for the decision to recruit Brooks and both he and Thomas gave up pick 6 and 31 for him
What a fair dinkum bunch of drop kicks
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and you are so great with the benefit of hindsight aren't you...
I suppose you are going to tell everyone that you predicted that Hamill and Penny will get injured...
Have another look into your crystal ball...
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Why don't you just answer Solar's questions?barks4eva wrote:Repetitive rubbish
It's a forum. Not a soapbox.
1) Was signing hamill to a lower per annum contract at the time (with no injury background and a important leadership position) not a important part of the resigning of all our young stars?
2) Was it Grant Thomas's fault that hamill did his knee so many times and thus was never able to fully get back to full fitness? I would argue that perhaps slightly with the employment of bad fitness staff.
3) Did Grant Thomas decide to work out a payout with hamill when he retired this year? Did he decide to place that payout in this years balance sheet?
4) What is the actual claimate from Grant Thomas and what actually happened with the signing of documents upon termination of his coaching contract.
5) Did he start the slanging match in the media (I would answer no) and then why did he not get the agreed payout.
6) Why is no one on the current board or club employee's critical of Grant Thomas or his claim. Why are they putting aside money to sort this out?
That is the sticking point for everyone. However if they have put this aside does it suggest that the board think that there is not going to be a favourable outcome to the litigation and if this is the case then the blame does not fall on to the current board or GT for that matter. It would suggest that the RB led board did not cross all the t's and dot the i's when this clause was signed! As for hamill most on here were happy that he retired and seemed content with giving him a payout so there was a free spot on the list.saint66au wrote:Spinner has been warned for abuse and his coment deleted
Unfortunately the topic of GT is relevant at the moment. Its been stated by the Club that they are putting money aside in case its needed to pay him out later. The discussion of this is therefore totally acceptable on the Forum
However, as most people know, the topic of Grant Thomas raises more hackles and causes more tears than any other subject raised here. More posts have been locked on him than every other subject combined I reckon. All we ask is that you show some respect to your fellow posters when discussing it..or this thread will be locked too.
Yes Barks drives many many people crazy on here, but he's as entitled to his opinion as anyone. Have a look around. every Forum on the Internet with our kind of traffic has a Barks on it. Passionate about the cause but cant quite help himself when it comes to a pet topic to bang on about.
Please, discuss the topic with passion but a modicum of common sense. Allow others their opinion (Yes Barks AND St Fid this means you both) without calling them names. Play the ball not the man
Thats Mr. Smartarse to you
thanks saint43, just re-reading those again, god their good questions ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
I'm waiting for a response b4e
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I'm waiting for a response b4e
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Wont be longSolar wrote:thanks saint43, just re-reading those again, god their good questions
I'm waiting for a response b4e
He's just entered his local area.......
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and his consulting his crystal ball...
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Please be patient for his next words of wisdom
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Gee, I cant wait
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Yep...skeptic wrote:Just grandstanding Jeff... thats all B4e is doing here and thats y he keeps this up... just wants attentionJeffDunne wrote:Andrew . . . can I ask, why do you bother?
Even if 100% of people on this site agreed with you *shudders* - what would you like us to do about GT?
I asked the same question
WHY BOTHER????
NOT
DON'T BOTHER
Only to be told to go away and it's not about my silly ego and point scoring, and that this is not communist Russia and that I wont silence a posters opinion...
and that I make everything personal...
Yeah righto...
This poster got personal first and has now sooked off
GO FIGURE!
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
I think the news story puts a highlight on just how flimsy the RB led boards profits were. that he was willing to stiff employees out of their entitlements just so he could paint himself as some kind of urban hero....
It is a joke that he has left this mess for the new board to sort out...things started going down hill when he wouldnt supply training equipment so that he could bask in his million dollar profits. His jobs for the boys style he wasnt taking a wage he was just using stkilda to build business for himself and his mates.....
Anyone who cant see that RB was bleeding the club dry and hiding it behind his snake in the grass accounting practices is a MORON....left the club with no sponsors....hadnt activly recruited any for years.....
FAIR DINKUM
It is a joke that he has left this mess for the new board to sort out...things started going down hill when he wouldnt supply training equipment so that he could bask in his million dollar profits. His jobs for the boys style he wasnt taking a wage he was just using stkilda to build business for himself and his mates.....
Anyone who cant see that RB was bleeding the club dry and hiding it behind his snake in the grass accounting practices is a MORON....left the club with no sponsors....hadnt activly recruited any for years.....
FAIR DINKUM
I think the news story puts a highlight on just how flimsy the RB led boards profits were. that he was willing to stiff employees out of their entitlements just so he could paint himself as some kind of urban hero....
It is a joke that he has left this mess for the new board to sort out...things started going down hill when he wouldnt supply training equipment so that he could bask in his million dollar profits. His jobs for the boys style he wasnt taking a wage he was just using stkilda to build business for himself and his mates.....
Anyone who cant see that RB was bleeding the club dry and hiding it behind his snake in the grass accounting practices is a MORON....left the club with no sponsors....hadnt activly recruited any for years.....
this has got legs .....happy spamming bob__71
bob__71 wrote:I think the news story puts a highlight on just how flimsy the RB led boards profits were. that he was willing to stiff employees out of their entitlements just so he could paint himself as some kind of urban hero....
It is a joke that he has left this mess for the new board to sort out...things started going down hill when he wouldnt supply training equipment so that he could bask in his million dollar profits. His jobs for the boys style he wasnt taking a wage he was just using stkilda to build business for himself and his mates.....
Anyone who cant see that RB was bleeding the club dry and hiding it behind his snake in the grass accounting practices is a MORON....left the club with no sponsors....hadnt activly recruited any for years.....
FAIR DINKUM
certainly a viable stance to take.......
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It does not surprise in the least that $700,000 is stripped off OUR football club's bottomline through sheer buffoonery and greed, if this pissant gets his way and all the muppets fall into line, like the apologist flogs that they are
Grant Thomas suing the club which contains a figure of $167,000 for holiday pay even though he'd previously signed a stat dec stating he was paid all holiday pay and annual leave entitlements owing to him already
I mean Fair Dinkum, talk about two bites at the cherry
Given what we witnessed yesterday at the National Draft with boy wonder bundy reading out the wrong player code number, why does this also not surprise me
The club paid or should that be overpaid Thomas Maximus over 2.5 million all up, $500,000 a year after he was appointed in what he has admitted was a flawed process to begin with, with no previous AFL coaching experience and still he's not happy
Thomas said that he would never do anything to hurt the club
$700,000 off the club's bottomline for 2007 alone, isn't exactly helpful
Thomas should be happy with the over 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS this football club has already paid him and considering the circumstances should fade off into the sunset and drop all legal action against the St.Kilda Football Club
That the muppets on here still apologise for this pissant is quite astonishing, IMHO
Grant Thomas suing the club which contains a figure of $167,000 for holiday pay even though he'd previously signed a stat dec stating he was paid all holiday pay and annual leave entitlements owing to him already
I mean Fair Dinkum, talk about two bites at the cherry
Given what we witnessed yesterday at the National Draft with boy wonder bundy reading out the wrong player code number, why does this also not surprise me
The club paid or should that be overpaid Thomas Maximus over 2.5 million all up, $500,000 a year after he was appointed in what he has admitted was a flawed process to begin with, with no previous AFL coaching experience and still he's not happy
Thomas said that he would never do anything to hurt the club
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$700,000 off the club's bottomline for 2007 alone, isn't exactly helpful
Thomas should be happy with the over 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS this football club has already paid him and considering the circumstances should fade off into the sunset and drop all legal action against the St.Kilda Football Club
That the muppets on here still apologise for this pissant is quite astonishing, IMHO
DO THE MATHS AND THE SQUARES ARE ALL ROOTED.
I think the news story puts a highlight on just how flimsy the RB led boards profits were. that he was willing to stiff employees out of their entitlements just so he could paint himself as some kind of urban hero....barks4eva wrote:It does not surprise in the least that $700,000 is stripped off OUR football club's bottomline through sheer buffoonery and greed, if this pissant gets his way and all the muppets fall into line, like the apologist flogs that they are
Grant Thomas suing the club which contains a figure of $167,000 for holiday pay even though he'd previously signed a stat dec stating he was paid all holiday pay and annual leave entitlements owing to him already
I mean Fair Dinkum, talk about two bites at the cherry
Given what we witnessed yesterday at the National Draft with boy wonder bundy reading out the wrong player code number, why does this also not surprise me
The club paid or should that be overpaid Thomas Maximus over 2.5 million all up, $500,000 a year after he was appointed in what he has admitted was a flawed process to begin with, with no previous AFL coaching experience and still he's not happy
Thomas said that he would never do anything to hurt the club![]()
$700,000 off the club's bottomline for 2007 alone, isn't exactly helpful
Thomas should be happy with the over 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS this football club has already paid him and considering the circumstances should fade off into the sunset and drop all legal action against the St.Kilda Football Club
That the muppets on here still apologise for this pissant is quite astonishing, IMHO
It is a joke that he has left this mess for the new board to sort out...things started going down hill when he wouldnt supply training equipment so that he could bask in his million dollar profits. His jobs for the boys style he wasnt taking a wage he was just using stkilda to build business for himself and his mates.....
Anyone who cant see that RB was bleeding the club dry and hiding it behind his snake in the grass accounting practices is a MORON....left the club with no sponsors....hadnt activly recruited any for years.....
FAIR DINKUM
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Exactly, let's hope once all is settled (and the intent looks like that's the case sooner rather than later), that b4e can move on.Joffa Burns wrote:Do you mean Grant Thomas the great St Kilda man?
Grant Thomas is the great Grant Thomas man!
The sooner we finally see the back of him and allow people such as Barks to move on the better.
Some how, I doubt it though unfortunately.
I highly doubt that Grant Thomas signed Hamill knowing that the last 2 years of his contract would be spent on the sideline. Come on mate. These things happen. You are asking Thomas to look into a crystal ball when he signs a player, expecting them to play out their contract. This is the AFL. People get injured mate. It ends careers. You never know when it is going to happen. This does not make Thomas a parasite; for it to make him one, he would have had to sign Hamill to a 5 year deal knowing that he would retire 2 years before his contract is due (seeing as he didn't play this year, he might as well have retired last year). Seeing as that is an utterly ridiculous idea to begin with, stop bitching about bad fortune and accept it is bad lack for both us and Hamill.
Couldn't be bothered reading the entire thread when I saw the title and the originator.
I assume its another dumpster diving epistle from the master of repetitive crap B4, venting his inexhaustable vitriol against the man who dared to speak disrespectfully to him one afternoon.
If its anything different please let me know, life is too short to waste time on reading another todger tugging tantrum from our resident banana in pyjamas.
I assume its another dumpster diving epistle from the master of repetitive crap B4, venting his inexhaustable vitriol against the man who dared to speak disrespectfully to him one afternoon.
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This is ridiculous.
GT has a right, as does any employee, to seek payment of his allowances. Just because he was employed by the football club we love doesn't make it somehow wrong for him to do so.
This is the whole reason why there is a legal system, there is a dispute between the two parties and the court will decide it.
Just like all the ranting about GT negotiated the best deal for himself when he was coach, this really is an immature argument. Think of how you would react if you felt your employer had stiffed you, regardless of what your thoughts are you are going to seek the money.
As much as we all like to claim that we know the ins and outs of everything, we don't, how about we let the courts decide this and consign Grant Thomas to the past.
GT has a right, as does any employee, to seek payment of his allowances. Just because he was employed by the football club we love doesn't make it somehow wrong for him to do so.
This is the whole reason why there is a legal system, there is a dispute between the two parties and the court will decide it.
Just like all the ranting about GT negotiated the best deal for himself when he was coach, this really is an immature argument. Think of how you would react if you felt your employer had stiffed you, regardless of what your thoughts are you are going to seek the money.
As much as we all like to claim that we know the ins and outs of everything, we don't, how about we let the courts decide this and consign Grant Thomas to the past.
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Signing Hamill and Penny to long term contracts does not make Thomas a parasite, buffoon yes, parasite noHuzzad wrote:I highly doubt that Grant Thomas signed Hamill knowing that the last 2 years of his contract would be spent on the sideline. Come on mate. These things happen. You are asking Thomas to look into a crystal ball when he signs a player, expecting them to play out their contract. This is the AFL. People get injured mate. It ends careers. You never know when it is going to happen. This does not make Thomas a parasite; for it to make him one, he would have had to sign Hamill to a 5 year deal knowing that he would retire 2 years before his contract is due (seeing as he didn't play this year, he might as well have retired last year). Seeing as that is an utterly ridiculous idea to begin with, stop bitching about bad fortune and accept it is bad lack for both us and Hamill.
Suing the club for $270,000 including a figure of $167,000 for holiday pay after he himself even signed a stat dec stating he'd already been paid this money in full, does
Thomas if he truly loved the club, beyond being his favourite cash cow of recent times, should be content with the more than 2.5 million he has already been overpaid as a result of, according to him, a flawed process in the first place to begin with
Thomas was on $500,000 from the get go with no previous AFL coaching experience
Any reasonble person would conclude that they've already profited quite well already, particularly when you consider that he says he would never do anything to hurt it
It must be so galling for all the truly great St.Kilda men who actually took 22.5 cents in the dollar to actually keep this club in existence, with scheme of arrangement payments, to see Thomas suing the club for $167,000 in holiday pay and even more so when he himself has already signed a stat dec stating he's already been paid all of this money in full
Truly great St.Kilda men are the one's who made the sacrifice to keep this club in existence today, not some pissant, suing the club for two bites at a cherry when he's already been more than generously rewarded for his services
It is also interesting that while all these player's made the sacrifice by taking 22.5 cents in the dollar, Grant Thomas was not one of them he took every cent owing to him and then pissed off to North
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