NO to GTrain
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NO to GTrain
I for one know it will be a mistake taking Frazer back as it is a step in the wrong direction.
He is to slow and has no defensive efforts on a consistant basis.
NO PLEASE GO FOR YOUTH
He is to slow and has no defensive efforts on a consistant basis.
NO PLEASE GO FOR YOUTH
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Re: NO to GTrain
If you actually ever watch him play, you'd know that he is quite explosive on the lead.1eyedNever wrote:I for one know it will be a mistake taking Frazer back as it is a step in the wrong direction.
He is to slow and has no defensive efforts on a consistant basis.
NO PLEASE GO FOR YOUTH
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See, I don't get this sort of talk...he's one of our biggest personalities/important players, no one would have ever called for him to be dropped, he retires (too early, as most would agree) now we have a chance to let him rip for another year and people say the games moved beyond him? Comon!
As soon as someone mentions something like this everyone jumps on the bandwagon, I don't care what people are saying, watch his games this year, he had a pretty decent year ffs, he kicked over a chair then booted a goal
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As soon as someone mentions something like this everyone jumps on the bandwagon, I don't care what people are saying, watch his games this year, he had a pretty decent year ffs, he kicked over a chair then booted a goal
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personally i would like to see fraser take the monster full back...however lead and play up the ground on the left...that leaves rooey a clear space infront of him both straight and to the right
schneider is going to add a shitload to our forwardline this season....
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schneider is going to add a shitload to our forwardline this season....
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Frazer is akin to the Everett persona ....unfortunately drops his head and thats it....giving his all is bull.fonz_#15 wrote:how short some peoples memories are![]()
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its great to see the respect we have for players who give their all for the club.
We are short of kids coming through and you want to take another 31 year old....ffs we only have 4 picks - Burke indicated we are likely to pick 3 tomorrow - you want one of these to be FG - leaving only 2 kids.
Rising stars are a thing of the past
We have an excellent core but need to develop youth.
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massive pay cut??linz wrote:If we get him back, he will be forced to take a massive pay cut. If he accepts that then I would say he's serious about giving it a go.
If Lyon reckons he can still be of value to the team then that's good enough for me too.
Ke???
Sorry, that's not really true, he RETIRED.....
So it's back to square one as a result - paycuts are for those who continue on year after year, not pull the pin, walk out and then change their mind 3 months later.
What would Fraze earn next year if he wasn't in footy?
Would a $200K salary from the Saints in 2008 (a guess!) be a paycut on is
earnings next year (excluding of course his resteraunt and other investments) had he done something non-footy??
Perspective....
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The way things are likely to pan out, he will be selected at pick 70.
Now can someone tell me when we got someone half decent after pick 50 (besides sam fisher at no.55)??
The majority of these later picks are hit or miss year to year, at least with fraser we will know what we'll get, and if he gets 50 goals next season it will mean job done.
i understand about the youth system, but with such a shallow draft we are still picking another 3 "young" players
All aboard the G train!!!!
Now can someone tell me when we got someone half decent after pick 50 (besides sam fisher at no.55)??
The majority of these later picks are hit or miss year to year, at least with fraser we will know what we'll get, and if he gets 50 goals next season it will mean job done.
i understand about the youth system, but with such a shallow draft we are still picking another 3 "young" players
All aboard the G train!!!!
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Just like the doc last year...super dooper wrote:The way things are likely to pan out, he will be selected at pick 70.
Now can someone tell me when we got someone half decent after pick 50 (besides sam fisher at no.55)??
The majority of these later picks are hit or miss year to year, at least with fraser we will know what we'll get, and if he gets 50 goals next season it will mean job done.
i understand about the youth system, but with such a shallow draft we are still picking another 3 "young" players
All aboard the G train!!!!
we could of developed 2 kids but instead we got his input/experience for 1 yr and missed out on developing 2 youngsters
You must think that the rookie list is a waste of time
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Too my knowledge there is a separate draft for the rookie's, so no i dont think it is a waste of time, we have players that are 'young', we need to develop them properly.BallBanger wrote:Just like the doc last year...super dooper wrote:The way things are likely to pan out, he will be selected at pick 70.
Now can someone tell me when we got someone half decent after pick 50 (besides sam fisher at no.55)??
The majority of these later picks are hit or miss year to year, at least with fraser we will know what we'll get, and if he gets 50 goals next season it will mean job done.
i understand about the youth system, but with such a shallow draft we are still picking another 3 "young" players
All aboard the G train!!!!
we could of developed 2 kids but instead we got his input/experience for 1 yr and missed out on developing 2 youngsters
You must think that the rookie list is a waste of time
Sometimes it may be quality over quantity, just because we dont have an abundance of young players, doesnt mean we are at a disadvantage. It comes down to the resources we have to develop the rookies, and at the moment they arent crash hot.
Why 2 youngsters, we can only get 1 player with pick 70??
We should look at chosing our opening rounds better with the likes of mqualter, watts etc being selected of late.
Pick 70 is a steal
which other draftee is a 50 goal a season forward???
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So how do u feel about Harvey playing on, he is 5 or 6 yrs older than G, should we have told him to retire and develop youth??BallBanger wrote:Just like the doc last year...super dooper wrote:The way things are likely to pan out, he will be selected at pick 70.
Now can someone tell me when we got someone half decent after pick 50 (besides sam fisher at no.55)??
The majority of these later picks are hit or miss year to year, at least with fraser we will know what we'll get, and if he gets 50 goals next season it will mean job done.
i understand about the youth system, but with such a shallow draft we are still picking another 3 "young" players
All aboard the G train!!!!
we could of developed 2 kids but instead we got his input/experience for 1 yr and missed out on developing 2 youngsters
You must think that the rookie list is a waste of time
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By paycut, (without being pedantic), he will earn less by playing football this year than last year. Or maybe I should be pedantic.saintspremiers wrote:massive pay cut??linz wrote:If we get him back, he will be forced to take a massive pay cut. If he accepts that then I would say he's serious about giving it a go.
If Lyon reckons he can still be of value to the team then that's good enough for me too.
Ke???
Sorry, that's not really true, he RETIRED.....
So it's back to square one as a result - paycuts are for those who continue on year after year, not pull the pin, walk out and then change their mind 3 months later.
What would Fraze earn next year if he wasn't in footy?
Would a $200K salary from the Saints in 2008 (a guess!) be a paycut on is
earnings next year (excluding of course his resteraunt and other investments) had he done something non-footy??
Perspective....
So, If he plays football in 2008; he will get paid less than he earnt in 2007.
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SD - I love Harvey like all on this site (my grandson is named after the great man)... is still an important member and unlike FG busts his gut every week.
Last yr we passed on the last 2 (national draft) to effectively pick up Doc Clarke in the pre-season....salary cap said we could only afford doc so went one short.
Last yr we passed on the last 2 (national draft) to effectively pick up Doc Clarke in the pre-season....salary cap said we could only afford doc so went one short.
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geez some supporters sh1t me, ballbanger.. Fraze doesnt bust a gut, is that right? He has played with some shocking injuries week in week out. He has such a high pain threshold. You would curl up in the feotal position in the same boat. Shut up an get off his back, the guy is welcome back any time he wants.
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if we are serious about pressing for a premiership in 2008 then we should get fraser back (if we can).
coleman medallists and 100 goal-kickers are scarce and i said at the time he retired that i thought fraser had at least one more good year left in him
however, he should not play at ff.
that position should go to kosi, who can take the contested marks so vital to breaking through the flood.
play fraser wide in a pocket as a more than useful decoy
coleman medallists and 100 goal-kickers are scarce and i said at the time he retired that i thought fraser had at least one more good year left in him
however, he should not play at ff.
that position should go to kosi, who can take the contested marks so vital to breaking through the flood.
play fraser wide in a pocket as a more than useful decoy
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All positive for the Saints.
Frasier on base plus match payments - nobody else wants him, and he doesn't need the money.
A better deal than Doc Clarke.
# 78 for F Gehrig - what a **** bonus for the Saints.
Frasier on base plus match payments - nobody else wants him, and he doesn't need the money.
A better deal than Doc Clarke.
# 78 for F Gehrig - what a **** bonus for the Saints.
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don;t try and educate this fool, he is obviously a star footballer himselfBringBackMadDog wrote:geez some supporters sh1t me, ballbanger.. Fraze doesnt bust a gut, is that right? He has played with some shocking injuries week in week out. He has such a high pain threshold. You would curl up in the feotal position in the same boat. Shut up an get off his back, the guy is welcome back any time he wants.
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get of your high horse and welcome back 1 of our stars
Robert Harvey- Simply the best
I love Frase, & personality wise I'd be perfectly happy for him to have another couple of years. Playing wise I was happy enough for us to move on & seek to create a new future without him, whereas now I have a few fears that picking him would be a reflection of our past rather than our future.
I sincerely hope that he can prove me wrong.
I sincerely hope that he can prove me wrong.
It's a shame ignorance isn't painful