Lukey Ball
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In Lukes own words
Tuesday 02 October, 2007 - 17:01 by Luke
[quote]Anyway, after the Richmond game we had a pretty tame “mad Mondayâ€
Tuesday 02 October, 2007 - 17:01 by Luke
[quote]Anyway, after the Richmond game we had a pretty tame “mad Mondayâ€
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SaintBot wrote:agree...disagreeStNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club
would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"
I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.
ok...then i fully agree.ausfatcat wrote:SaintBot wrote:agree...disagreeStNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club
would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"
I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
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absolutelyausfatcat wrote:SaintBot wrote:agree...disagreeStNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club
would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"
I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.
perish the thought of losing bally...
Unfortunately 100 meters is a useless stat for an AFL footballer.Oh When the Saints wrote:Ball's 100m time was about 0.3 seconds quicker than Judd's too (as 18-year olds)
Its all about what you do for the first few meters and the speed you're going when find the ball .
Judd excels where it counts.
Thats why he is the game;s best game breaker!
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was he???SaintBot wrote:
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????
JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds number out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
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well...they outsmarted themselves...now they don't have either of them.......funny....sampi was delisted this year and. polak is also now long gone from freo as well......
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im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:saintsRrising wrote:was he???SaintBot wrote:
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????
JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)
Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.
Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?
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After all that I wouldn't be surprised if the 5 best players turned out being G.Ablett, Hodge, Dal Santo, Bartel, Montagna...
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SaintBot wrote:im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:saintsRrising wrote:was he???SaintBot wrote:
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????
JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)
Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.
Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?
Well there is not one ranking....as everyone will rank players differently...
But my recollection is that Hodge, Ball and Judd were clearly in everyones top 3 based purely on ability. Some were worried about Judd's shoulders.....
Some thought WC may go for Polak as a local boy due to the go home factor etc....and so while not ranking him above the other 3 in terms of aabilty some though that WC would plumb for him.
Butters was strongly of the view that the Saints should have taken Judd with their first pick...but as President did not have a say.
But back to your earlier statement that the St Kilda recruiters ranked Ball higher than Judd. No, that is not my understanding.
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However how quick footballers run over 100m is not really that important in AFL unless they are truly outside players.....Oh When the Saints wrote:Ball's 100m time was about 0.3 seconds quicker than Judd's too (as 18-year olds)
BJ is reported to have had some good sprint times at training....but has never shown useful pace in an AFL match.
The pace that is important is the initial acceleration. Players that have this "burst" pace such as Judd have a clear advantage.
Bigger players with bust pace can for example make very good FFs.....
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Re: Lukey Ball
Abuctor release operation.....so a bit more than minor.StNoodles wrote:Just wondering whether he's had corrective surgery for the groin troubles... Anyone know what's going on?
Is a well understood operation these days and very common with soccer players where groin and related injuries are more common. It has a good success record.
My brother in law had it done and he played some of his best football of the round ball variety after he had it done.
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Not many others.saintsRrising wrote:SaintBot wrote:im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:saintsRrising wrote:was he???SaintBot wrote:
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????
JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)
Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.
Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?
Well there is not one ranking....as everyone will rank players differently...
But my recollection is that Hodge, Ball and Judd were clearly in everyones top 3 based purely on ability. Some were worried about Judd's shoulders.....
Some thought WC may go for Polak as a local boy due to the go home factor etc....and so while not ranking him above the other 3 in terms of aabilty some though that WC would plumb for him.
Butters was strongly of the view that the Saints should have taken Judd with their first pick...but as President did not have a say.
But back to your earlier statement that the St Kilda recruiters ranked Ball higher than Judd. No, that is not my understanding.
The wider recruiting community certainly didnt.
Judds shoulders were seen as a risk.
GT liked Ball.
Not sure about Bev.