Justin Sweeney???

sax · Post: # 480141Post **sax** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 5:56pm

Just a quick question, is it still possible for us to re-draft Justin Sweeney in the rookie draft if no-one else picks him up?
He was a pretty raw tallent when we picked him up & he's won the goalkicking at Casey this year.
Maybe his delisting is the kick up the butt he needed!
Obviously has a good forward presence & goalkicking ability!!!

Justin Sweeney
DOB 25/12/87 AFL Games-1
H-186cm
W-87kg

Casey Stats
2007 Goals - 33, Games-14
2006 Goals - 33, Games-13

satchmo · Post: # 480142Post **satchmo** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 6:01pm

I heard that after the cricket season he's booked in to have a shoulder reconstruction. Not sure how long that would keep him out for.

evertonfc · Post: # 480154Post **evertonfc** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 6:22pm

Re-draft Fergus Watts as a rookie, not Sweeney.

Sweeney needs more VFL development IMO.

sax · Post: # 480159Post **sax** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 6:30pm

Why not both as rookies? We've got room for 3!
Anyway, Sweeneys led the Scorps goalkicking two years straight, only played 13 & 14 games both seasons.
Shown a bit more than Fergus to be honest!
Being a rookie he would get more VFL development!!!

vacuous space · Sun 21 Oct 2007 6:40pm

Unless there's something better available, I'd be in favour of rookie listing either or both. We're certainly short on key forward depth. Roo, Kosi, Allen are just about it.

Worth looking at what other clubs delist as well though. Ryan Willits is a monster sized forward if Port delist him.

mad saint guy · Sun 21 Oct 2007 7:11pm

Definitely worth a spot on the rookie list. I think it was a mistake in delisting Sweeney in the first place.

If Watts was available late in the rookie draft and we already had a young ruckman and key defender I would take him.

evertonfc · Post: # 480181Post **evertonfc** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 7:57pm

He seems to play 'above' 186cm in the VFL, but is he really capable of playing the tall/short option at the top level?

As in, could he play 100 games for us as a mid-sized forward and potentially be part of a premiership winning tea - or at least, as a back-up player, be in our best 25 players?

Eastern · Post: # 480185Post **Eastern** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 8:01pm

Lets NOT compare VFL form with AFL form. After all, Tim (Gumby) Elliott made the VFL rep side a few years ago !!

Otiman · Post: # 480216Post **Otiman** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 8:39pm

We need to move forward, take a punt with the rookie list rather than putting more time into players who don't have the determination to play AFL with St. Kilda.

plugger66 · Post: # 480229Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:18pm

He was delisted for a reason and it wasnt form. Will not be redrafted by the Saints. Also isnt having any operation.

SaintBot · Post: # 480234Post **SaintBot** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:23pm

plugger66 wrote:He was delisted for a reason and it wasnt form. Will not be redrafted by the Saints. Also isnt having any operation.

same reason he failed to play in the Casey Seniors late in the season despite apearing to be in good form

plugger66 · Post: # 480236Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:24pm

SaintBot wrote:
plugger66 wrote:He was delisted for a reason and it wasnt form. Will not be redrafted by the Saints. Also isnt having any operation.
same reason he failed to play in the Casey Seniors late in the season despite apearing to be in good form

Correct.

satchmo · Post: # 480245Post **satchmo** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:32pm

plugger66 wrote: Also isnt having any operation.

He'll be quite relieved to hear that !

plugger66 · Post: # 480247Post **plugger66** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:34pm

satchmo wrote:
plugger66 wrote: Also isnt having any operation.
He'll be quite relieved to hear that !

I hope so because otherwise he will be sitting in the hospital until the end of cricket season.

Otiman · Post: # 480250Post **Otiman** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:36pm

plugger66 wrote:He was delisted for a reason and it wasnt form.

I don't want to be jumping to any crazy conclusions here, but could there perhaps be something hanging over Sweeney's head that could preclude him from playing AFL in the future?

satchmo · Post: # 480251Post **satchmo** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 9:36pm

plugger66 wrote:
satchmo wrote:
plugger66 wrote: Also isnt having any operation.
He'll be quite relieved to hear that !
I hope so because otherwise he will be sitting in the hospital until the end of cricket season.

Nah, he wont miss cricket, he's dedicated !

sax · Post: # 480271Post **sax** » Sun 21 Oct 2007 10:16pm

[quote="plugger66"][quote="SaintBot"][quote="plugger66"]He was delisted for a reason and it wasnt form. Will not be redrafted by the Saints. Also isnt having any operation.[/quote]

same reason he failed to play in the Casey Seniors late in the season despite apearing to be in good form[/quote]

Correct.[/quote]

What was the reason? We don't hear anything in SA. Doesn't seem a smart move to leave your leading goalkicker out late in the season, then struggle to kick goals in a final, & lose!!!!

fonz_#15 · Post: # 480349Post **fonz_#15** » Mon 22 Oct 2007 12:52am

discipline...the only thing that stopped him going places..

his priorities were wrong more often thqn not

congorozides · Tue 23 Oct 2007 3:59pm

didnt turn up to training? on the booze or on the harder stuff?

fonz_#15 · Post: # 481065Post **fonz_#15** » Tue 23 Oct 2007 4:03pm

congorozides wrote:didnt turn up to training? on the booze or on the harder stuff?

lets just leave it at discipline issues...shall we?

congorozides · Tue 23 Oct 2007 4:22pm

fonz_#15 wrote:
congorozides wrote:didnt turn up to training? on the booze or on the harder stuff?
lets just leave it at discipline issues...shall we?

you can take the kid out of hastings but you cant take the hastings out of the boy.

TimeToShineFellas · Tue 23 Oct 2007 4:35pm

Eastern wrote:Lets NOT compare VFL form with AFL form.

Thank bloody god there is a someone with a semblence of common sense in here......

RBnW · Post: # 481197Post **RBnW** » Tue 23 Oct 2007 7:00pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
Eastern wrote:Lets NOT compare VFL form with AFL form.
Thank bloody god there is a someone with a semblence of common sense in here......

Niether Sweeny or Watts will get picked up by anyone, they are only reasonable VFL players at best, watched both of them all year at Casey...not good enough....they will not get picked up by an AFL club....I can't believe we gave a 1st round pick for Watts & Brooks at least Sweeny was a John Beveridge smokie...but still 2 years on our list he should have improved enough if he had the talent

riccardo · Post: # 481202Post **riccardo** » Tue 23 Oct 2007 7:08pm

plugger66 wrote:
satchmo wrote:
plugger66 wrote: Also isnt having any operation.
He'll be quite relieved to hear that !
I hope so because otherwise he will be sitting in the hospital until the end of cricket season.

If hes going to a public hospital, he probably will be anyway.