CLinton Jones- is he good enough?
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CLinton Jones- is he good enough?
i think today we saw that clinton jones can be quite a good player who has a bit of heart but he just alcks any real pace.
IS he good enough to make it at AFL level? if so he needs to add some pace and unpredictability
IS he good enough to make it at AFL level? if so he needs to add some pace and unpredictability
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Where did we actually see today he would be a good player. I hope your right but I cannot see it.saintgus wrote:i think today we saw that clinton jones can be quite a good player who has a bit of heart but he just alcks any real pace.
IS he good enough to make it at AFL level? if so he needs to add some pace and unpredictability
The differnce is his age. He is half wat through his career at his age. You cannot improve his field kicking at 23.HSVKing wrote:Love how people write off players after a handful of games...
Same could have been said about Gilbo, Goose, Dal et al after a couple of matches.
I think clint has alot to offer as a matter of fact.
I think he might struggle. Hea good tackler and got good heart but he's not really a natural footballer. He has no proper technique for his kicking and has little smoothness and fluency when he has the ball. I guess when you're playing in the WAFL its not as important with having proper technique with your kicking but in the AFL you quickly get found out.
\plugger66 wrote:The differnce is his age. He is half wat through his career at his age. You cannot improve his field kicking at 23.HSVKing wrote:Love how people write off players after a handful of games...
Same could have been said about Gilbo, Goose, Dal et al after a couple of matches.
I think clint has alot to offer as a matter of fact.
Andrew Thompson anyone?
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i have not seen one thing from him that would indicate that he can play the game at this level........sorry...hope to be proven wrong...but don't think so....
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Better skills. Faster and just plain better.HSVKing wrote:\plugger66 wrote:The differnce is his age. He is half wat through his career at his age. You cannot improve his field kicking at 23.HSVKing wrote:Love how people write off players after a handful of games...
Same could have been said about Gilbo, Goose, Dal et al after a couple of matches.
I think clint has alot to offer as a matter of fact.
Andrew Thompson anyone?
What I mean is... many people wrote him off early... he proved them wrong... i hope clint does the same.plugger66 wrote:Better skills. Faster and just plain better.HSVKing wrote:\plugger66 wrote:The differnce is his age. He is half wat through his career at his age. You cannot improve his field kicking at 23.HSVKing wrote:Love how people write off players after a handful of games...
Same could have been said about Gilbo, Goose, Dal et al after a couple of matches.
I think clint has alot to offer as a matter of fact.
Andrew Thompson anyone?
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He's had a good go to show what he is made of. More AFL games than most rookies will ever play.
He is fast by foot, but his poor reading of the play and shocking disposal means that he looks slow once you put the whole package together.
His "forward pressure" is good, but there is more surely to AFL standard football than this. I wouldn't be surprised if he's kept on as a rookie for one more season - but he may be too old. If so then I think he should be cut.
He is fast by foot, but his poor reading of the play and shocking disposal means that he looks slow once you put the whole package together.
His "forward pressure" is good, but there is more surely to AFL standard football than this. I wouldn't be surprised if he's kept on as a rookie for one more season - but he may be too old. If so then I think he should be cut.
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Gilbert - Did nothing wrong in his first few games. Showed a couple of good signs and looked to be a player of the futureHSVKing wrote:Same could have been said about Gilbo, Goose, Dal et al after a couple of matches.
I think clint has alot to offer as a matter of fact.
Maguire - Showed great effort playing out of his weight division and did an honourable job. He has always had the tools to be a great player
Dal Santo - Was talked up as a future star from his debut. Silky skills and brilliant awareness from day one
Jones has done nothing good. He turns the ball over every time he is under any sort of pressure and still stuffs up the kick when there is no pressure. No right side...or left side. His pace is about average for a midfielder and he is physically weak. He runs hard but not to the right place. He usually gets to the contest 3 seconds too late. There are no positive aspects in his game.
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RL has gone on record several times, stating that we need more speedy ballcarrying midfielders.
As a result, CJ will be persevered with.
Its his first year of AFL, and his his kicking skills will be worked on over summer.
He's speedy, and a good tackler. Has got more games in one year than sweeney and armitage this year.
He will be on our list next year GUARENTEED
As a result, CJ will be persevered with.
Its his first year of AFL, and his his kicking skills will be worked on over summer.
He's speedy, and a good tackler. Has got more games in one year than sweeney and armitage this year.
He will be on our list next year GUARENTEED
Well that says somrthing about our depth dont you think.hotdish wrote:RL has gone on record several times, stating that we need more speedy ballcarrying midfielders.
As a result, CJ will be persevered with.
Its his first year of AFL, and his his kicking skills will be worked on over summer.
He's speedy, and a good tackler. Has got more games in one year than sweeney and armitage this year.
He will be on our list next year GUARENTEED
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I just don't see that in him. Today was the first time I have ever seen him run with the ball. He got the footy 5m clear of an opponent, ran 20m and ended up getting tackled as he kicked it. He certainly doesn't have outstanding pace. He might be quick on the training track, but a guy like Dal Santo who is evasive and smart is much better running with the footy even though he just has ordinary pace.hotdish wrote:RL has gone on record several times, stating that we need more speedy ballcarrying midfielders.
He's speedy, and a good tackler.
Jones' tackling is pathetic. He attempted about 10 tackles today. About 6 times he was just shrugged off by his opponent, a couple of times he tackled the player AFTER he got rid of it, and the other couple of times his opponent was able to stand up in the tackle and dish the ball off. Jones' tackling is not AFL standard.
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Errors = clangers. Clangers are uncontested disposals that go directly to the opposition. It doesn't take into account poorly positioned kicks to forwards who have to battle to contest the ball, kicks that fall short of a team mate (kick to Sam Fisher in the backline that resulted in a Tiger goal) and when you cough up the ball in a pack. The score assist was when he and Fiora (?) were handballing it to each other 50 out from goal.Oh When the Saints wrote:4 effective tackles for the game.
Only 3 errors from his 11 possessions, and 1 score assist.
Agree 100% MSGmad saint guy wrote:He got the footy 5m clear of an opponent, ran 20m and ended up getting tackled as he kicked it. He certainly doesn't have outstanding pace. He might be quick on the training track, but a guy like Dal Santo who is evasive and smart is much better running with the footy even though he just has ordinary pace.
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Do we know his background in terms of when he started playing the game when he started to be serious about footy? Would be interesting just looks to me like a kid who took the game up late in his teen age years and is still learning the game he may be older in age but experience he might not be as experienced as other his age. The club will not be looking to him to be a 10 year player but if he can develop and give us 6 or 7 years he could be a handy pick up and if the club is prepared to spend the time on developing a player that is better than always recycling older players that have been dumped by other clubs.
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