Who would you axe?
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Who would you axe?
Gwilt, Jones & Birss?
They looked not up to AFL standard today. Not sure how much game time they should geat next year...
Brooks, not playing this year it clearly out of favour & must go..
Who do you think should go?
They looked not up to AFL standard today. Not sure how much game time they should geat next year...
Brooks, not playing this year it clearly out of favour & must go..
Who do you think should go?
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Birss was buggered at one stage, instead of trying to chase a Richmond player he just ran straight into the man trying to shepherd.
Jones and Gwilt will stay, Lyons likes them.
I think Jones needs to be introduced to his right foot. Like Gram does with his left foot (shocker).
Jones and Gwilt will stay, Lyons likes them.
I think Jones needs to be introduced to his right foot. Like Gram does with his left foot (shocker).
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Jones is terrible, not even really that quick to justify being out there. I would have rather see Geary get a game.
Ferguson should have been tried out up forward, was very ordinary against Pettifer (had 7 shots at goal). Really not sure that he is up to it.
Gwilt was ordinary, probably better suited up the ground as well but we need defenders & he doesn't cut it.
Brooks, Sweeney, Raymond all seem gone. Plus Fraser & Thommo.
That's a fair few gone already before any trading. I can't see any of the above having any trade value at all.
Ferguson should have been tried out up forward, was very ordinary against Pettifer (had 7 shots at goal). Really not sure that he is up to it.
Gwilt was ordinary, probably better suited up the ground as well but we need defenders & he doesn't cut it.
Brooks, Sweeney, Raymond all seem gone. Plus Fraser & Thommo.
That's a fair few gone already before any trading. I can't see any of the above having any trade value at all.
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After today's performance and Fraser's retirement, I would like to see these changes
Retired: Gehrig, Thompson, M.Clarke
Delisted: Raymond, Ferguson, Voss
Rookies
Elevate: Geary
Retain: Attard, Eddy, van Rheenen
Delist: Jones, Wall
That leaves 5 spots on the senior list and 3 rookie spots.
Use 4 draft picks with a preference on skilled, quick midfielders. Draft Stefan Garrubba from Casey. Use rookie picks on developing ruckmen and aboriginals kids deemed to be too small for the national draft.
Retired: Gehrig, Thompson, M.Clarke
Delisted: Raymond, Ferguson, Voss
Rookies
Elevate: Geary
Retain: Attard, Eddy, van Rheenen
Delist: Jones, Wall
That leaves 5 spots on the senior list and 3 rookie spots.
Use 4 draft picks with a preference on skilled, quick midfielders. Draft Stefan Garrubba from Casey. Use rookie picks on developing ruckmen and aboriginals kids deemed to be too small for the national draft.
Wouldnt mind Jones be introduced to his left boot. Just avery ordinary footballer.Saints-06-Premiers wrote:Birss was buggered at one stage, instead of trying to chase a Richmond player he just ran straight into the man trying to shepherd.
Jones and Gwilt will stay, Lyons likes them.
I think Jones needs to be introduced to his right foot. Like Gram does with his left foot (shocker).
Sweeney and Brooks? Ferg may be safe but a close call.mad saint guy wrote:After today's performance and Fraser's retirement, I would like to see these changes
Retired: Gehrig, Thompson, M.Clarke
Delisted: Raymond, Ferguson, Voss
Rookies
Elevate: Geary
Retain: Attard, Eddy, van Rheenen
Delist: Jones, Wall
That leaves 5 spots on the senior list and 3 rookie spots.
Use 4 draft picks with a preference on skilled, quick midfielders. Draft Stefan Garrubba from Casey. Use rookie picks on developing ruckmen and aboriginals kids deemed to be too small for the national draft.
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Re: Who would you axe?
So how did Foley go today????? I thought it might relevant since Birss was playing on him......SaintWodonga wrote:& Birss?
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Re: Who would you axe?
didn't fish play on him today?? kept him to 15 posiessaintsRrising wrote:So how did Foley go today????? I thought it might relevant since Birss was playing on him......SaintWodonga wrote:& Birss?
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Get rid of Anthony "Skills" Evans, Kitschke, Antrobus, Frost, Greg Jones, Aldo Di Petta and Laurence Bingham
Keep the 2 Phil's - Narkle and Cronin, Doug Cox, John Favier and Daryl Hewitt
Also stick with the 5 year plan - serious we are gunna be good one day
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Keep the 2 Phil's - Narkle and Cronin, Doug Cox, John Favier and Daryl Hewitt
Also stick with the 5 year plan - serious we are gunna be good one day
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Actually, we have scored with about half our inside 50 entries since Round 12, and are the most efficient team in terms of disposals per scoring shot in that period too ...
We don't waste the ball. We just don't get much of it and kick poorly when we do.
We don't waste the ball. We just don't get much of it and kick poorly when we do.
They should only play AFL games now when it's raining. Slow games of footy are so much better to watch.
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keep brooks and play him second ruck in the seniors.
with fraser retiring (way too prematurely in my opinion) kosi must play full-forward permanently.
this opens a spot for brooks and, hopefully, gardiner will come up.
there's always blake, who is a very capable ruckman, rix, who is a depth player and even goose can pinch-hit.
with fraser retiring (way too prematurely in my opinion) kosi must play full-forward permanently.
this opens a spot for brooks and, hopefully, gardiner will come up.
there's always blake, who is a very capable ruckman, rix, who is a depth player and even goose can pinch-hit.
Brooks is gone. Sorry to all the people who think he is a ruckman but Blake is Polly Farmer compared to Brooks in the ruck.bigcarl wrote:keep brooks and play him second ruck in the seniors.
with fraser retiring (way too prematurely in my opinion) kosi must play full-forward permanently.
this opens a spot for brooks and, hopefully, gardiner will come up.
there's always blake, who is a very capable ruckman, rix, who is a depth player and even goose can pinch-hit.
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well play blake in the ruck. he's been very effective and him not being there much of this season has cost us bigtime imo. gives us plenty around the ground and i'm also of the opinion that a ruckman must do more than win tap-outs.plugger66 wrote:Brooks is gone. Sorry to all the people who think he is a ruckman but Blake is Polly Farmer compared to Brooks in the ruck.
the on-ball division has looked ordinary with clarke and rix in there much of the time. i agree with the gt/rendell school of thought (unfashionable though it may be) that tap-outs to advantage are over-rated
i'm sure of one thing:
without fraser kosi must play as a permanent full-forward next season. just gives us a bloke who can take a big contested mark ... the only certain way i know of beating the flood.
goose is also worth a run in the ruck if we can spare him down back. sure he is conceding centimetres, but just think of what he can provide around the ground in marking contests and with strong body work.
whatever the answer is, we must find a serviceable ruckman to allow kosi to play forward.
best case scenario is that gardiner makes a lazarus-like comeback and we use blake and goose in there as back-ups.
barring that we need to snag one from somewhere ... hopefully not a washed-up dud ... and hopefully one who can contribute something around the ground.
in all seriousness my old favourite ts40 (who was moved on to make way for clarke) would have been better value in the ruck than clarke
rix is a depth player at best, unfortunately.
from what i've seen of brooks he has the skills to make it but not the confidence in his physical strength. perhaps some heavy gym work would help him.
bigger guys do take longer to develop and some blokes thrive when given responsibility and have some faith shown in them (which, incidentally, we never have).
who knows. he could be the surprise packet of 2008.
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I think all those posters who seem to want to delist half the team each season are going to be a tad disappointed.
Thommo, M Clarke and Gehrig are gone and Harvey is no certainty to play on.
I imagine that Raymond is a certainty to be cut, and Sweeney a strong chance.
That's anywhere up to six gone already.
I'd be surprised if too many more are cut. Here's my reading on the other candidates.
B Voss: he was out of form towards the end of this year, but he's experienced, and his brother is a powerful person in the AFL world who the Saints wouldn't particularly want to put off side (and don't discount the importance of this point). I reckon he'll be retained unless he decides to retire.
B Brooks: not much chop, but why would a club that is desperate for ruckmen and who has had one just retire and another who has been injured all season decide to get rid of a ruckman?
J Gwilt: I'm a fan, but I'd be the first to admit that he made some appalling decisions with the ball in his hands yesterday. But he also showed some potential ability as well. Too many posters on this forum focuses exclusively on the mistakes a player makes rather than on the good things that they show that they can do. Gwilt has shown on a number of occasions that he has plenty of potential and they'd be mad to get rid of him.
Ferguson: Just doesn't look like an AFL player to me. But he seems to have a lot of fans on here, so perhaps I'm no judge.
Raph: I don't think club is seriously wanting to get rid of him, but a lot on here want to. He has played 2 good games out of his last three IMO. Surely he will shut the critics up for good next season (as BJ did in 2006).
The rookies
Attard: given the serious nature of his injury, I assume he won't be elevated.
Jones: played another shocker yesterday. I would either leave him on the rookie list or cut him, but he seems to have fans among the coaching staff/selection panel so he'll probably be offered a long-term contract. Message to all up and coming AFL players: don't bother working on your skills, just dye your hair blond and learn how to run around the field in a jerky fashion waving your hands in the air.
The other rookies: give them another year.
Thommo, M Clarke and Gehrig are gone and Harvey is no certainty to play on.
I imagine that Raymond is a certainty to be cut, and Sweeney a strong chance.
That's anywhere up to six gone already.
I'd be surprised if too many more are cut. Here's my reading on the other candidates.
B Voss: he was out of form towards the end of this year, but he's experienced, and his brother is a powerful person in the AFL world who the Saints wouldn't particularly want to put off side (and don't discount the importance of this point). I reckon he'll be retained unless he decides to retire.
B Brooks: not much chop, but why would a club that is desperate for ruckmen and who has had one just retire and another who has been injured all season decide to get rid of a ruckman?
J Gwilt: I'm a fan, but I'd be the first to admit that he made some appalling decisions with the ball in his hands yesterday. But he also showed some potential ability as well. Too many posters on this forum focuses exclusively on the mistakes a player makes rather than on the good things that they show that they can do. Gwilt has shown on a number of occasions that he has plenty of potential and they'd be mad to get rid of him.
Ferguson: Just doesn't look like an AFL player to me. But he seems to have a lot of fans on here, so perhaps I'm no judge.
Raph: I don't think club is seriously wanting to get rid of him, but a lot on here want to. He has played 2 good games out of his last three IMO. Surely he will shut the critics up for good next season (as BJ did in 2006).
The rookies
Attard: given the serious nature of his injury, I assume he won't be elevated.
Jones: played another shocker yesterday. I would either leave him on the rookie list or cut him, but he seems to have fans among the coaching staff/selection panel so he'll probably be offered a long-term contract. Message to all up and coming AFL players: don't bother working on your skills, just dye your hair blond and learn how to run around the field in a jerky fashion waving your hands in the air.
The other rookies: give them another year.
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Do we have a decent replacement? I wont vote him out unless the challenge ticket is a bloody good one.always tomorrow wrote:rod butters
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With the delisting as someone said above no use delisting 10 people from the list when the draft isn't supposed to be that good this year. Some of those ten may still be an outside chance to make it, and most individually I would delist but as a whole you can't delist that many at one time. No use getting 5 long shots (thats what the rookie draft is for).