UN-NAMED Freo Official !!
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UN-NAMED Freo Official !!
Who is the un-named Freemantle official whose eye witness account of the Baker-Farmer incident has sent the matter direct to the tribunal?
I know how much I'd believe someone who doesn't have the courage to put their name to their allegations !!
I know how much I'd believe someone who doesn't have the courage to put their name to their allegations !!
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They don't put their name forward independently to the tribunal - they are a witness for Fremantle, so Fremantle calls them. I don't know at what stage parties have to notify the tribunal as to the names of witnesses, but I'd suggest that if the tribunal has been given a name, it is not in public domain because everyone is keeping their mouth shut about their identity, and correctly so.
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Mark Harvey or Cameron Schwab perhaps
...now theres a couple of credible,unbiased witnesses
...now theres a couple of credible,unbiased witnesses
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So Cameron Schwab was out there in the papers yesterday saying that he knew of no Freo official who had seen the incident yet this trainer supposedly told Freo management, specifically Robert Shaw, directly after the game?
Freo staffer to give evidence on Baker-Farmer clash
Who's telling the truth Freo? And I notice that the article makes reference to Voss' "I saw it" comment but neglects to mention he DENIED seeing it both before and after that comment.
There's a stitch-up a-brewing....
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OK, I misread the article. I thought it was saying the meeting took place after the game. I still reckon there's something fishy in the fact he didn't come forward to Freo management right after the game.
Freo staffer to give evidence on Baker-Farmer clash
Who's telling the truth Freo? And I notice that the article makes reference to Voss' "I saw it" comment but neglects to mention he DENIED seeing it both before and after that comment.
There's a stitch-up a-brewing....
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OK, I misread the article. I thought it was saying the meeting took place after the game. I still reckon there's something fishy in the fact he didn't come forward to Freo management right after the game.
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Spot on cowboy - 'The West' newspaper this morning states that he is a long-serving Fremantle trainer - funny that this 'part-time' staffer finally put up his hand at a special meeting held my the coaching staff requesting information.cowboy18 wrote:My source says that it is this guy.
Strange that he flew back to Perth with the whole crew and said nothing until the meeting - guess he must have been too upset to talk.
Riewoldting wrote:They don't put their name forward independently to the tribunal - they are a witness for Fremantle, so Fremantle calls them. I don't know at what stage parties have to notify the tribunal as to the names of witnesses, but I'd suggest that if the tribunal has been given a name, it is not in public domain because everyone is keeping their mouth shut about their identity, and correctly so.
with respect riewolting...that is pure crap.....freo...unless they have cited baker...are not a parties to the hearing........the saints copuld call farmer...but that is unlikely....the tribunal could call him themselves.......but in either case freo are not involved....
in the judd case brown was called....by westcoast....hawthorn were not a party to the proceedings.....
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rexy wrote:They are not a witness for fremantle, they are a witness for the AFL. The Fremantle footy club is not charging Baker the AFL is.
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Witness for the AFL or not he still works for Fremantle. Right?stinger wrote:rexy wrote:They are not a witness for fremantle, they are a witness for the AFL. The Fremantle footy club is not charging Baker the AFL is.
correct.....
So how can anyone associated with an involved club give unbiased or untainted testimony in regards to an alleged incident involving one of their own?
Even if he tells the truth, which isn't a given, it will always be suspect and maybe even appeal-able if it gets that far.
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The "witness" is biased, his testimony should be invalid in any legal preceeding.
Why don't I call Dimwit and say I saw what happened? Bet you anything he'd tell me I'm a St kilda supporter who has a vested interest in the case so I can't testify.
Even when we beat the Frockers they still find a way to screw us to the wall.
Why don't I call Dimwit and say I saw what happened? Bet you anything he'd tell me I'm a St kilda supporter who has a vested interest in the case so I can't testify.
Even when we beat the Frockers they still find a way to screw us to the wall.
Lock and Load - Denny Crane. You always make me think of Denny, stinger. DENNY CRANE!stinger wrote:Riewoldting wrote:They don't put their name forward independently to the tribunal - they are a witness for Fremantle, so Fremantle calls them. I don't know at what stage parties have to notify the tribunal as to the names of witnesses, but I'd suggest that if the tribunal has been given a name, it is not in public domain because everyone is keeping their mouth shut about their identity, and correctly so.
with respect riewolting...that is pure crap.....freo...unless they have cited baker...are not a parties to the hearing........the saints copuld call farmer...but that is unlikely....the tribunal could call him themselves.......but in either case freo are not involved....
in the judd case brown was called....by westcoast....hawthorn were not a party to the proceedings.....
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If Bakes goes - then we need a new defence advocate / lawyer. This is a soda for any lawyer with just a smidgin of ability to get thrown out.
How any legal system can operate where an obvious bias exists with a witness, is beyond comprehension. And both Buckley and Voss SHOULD be fined for commenting on AFL Tribunal matters and prejudicing the proceedings.
How any legal system can operate where an obvious bias exists with a witness, is beyond comprehension. And both Buckley and Voss SHOULD be fined for commenting on AFL Tribunal matters and prejudicing the proceedings.
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