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Sam23 » Sun 12 Aug 2007 10:57pm
Bringing 2 5 page+++ debates and countless comments over the past couple weeks...
Fraser out of form, even though I don't think we should drop him it is def. a possibility that we will.
Time to unleash Fergus back into AFL?
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fonz_#15 » Sun 12 Aug 2007 11:57pm
Bernard Shakey wrote: He's a dud.
Won't be there next year.
i'd like to be a dud that kicked 7 in the 2's..
i don't know what his worth will be at afl level though
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Otiman » Sun 12 Aug 2007 11:58pm
Playing well in the VFL, but i'm unsure if his attributes - strength, height, marking ability are what is needed in the current format of AFL footy, where pace is king.
The fact is that most marks in forward 50 these days are achieved on the lead, not 1 on 1 with the opponent. Hands in the back rule will probably hurt his chances, too.
Still, he's in better form than Gehrig is, and i'd like to see him play.
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Bernard Shakey » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:05am
7 goals in the 2's!
Against no opposition. A bunch of undersized Taswegians.
Todays VFL aint AFL.
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:35am
Bernard Shakey wrote: 7 goals in the 2's!
Against no opposition. A bunch of undersized Taswegians.
Todays VFL aint AFL.
hence, why i went on to say that i dont know what his worth at afl level will be. got to remember he was injured last year so its his first real season at the club, but i;m not convinced he is up to it.
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Otiman » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:37am
You can only play against the opposition given.
He won't be selected this week (and rightly so), but it will be interesting to see how he backs up his performance in the VFL.
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spert » Mon 13 Aug 2007 8:22am
Any player who shows real form in VFL should be in line for selection -there's a few slackers in the seniors who aren't producing and need the pressure on them.
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SB10 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 9:07am
Play him! As third tall up forward with G in the side. Kosi to ruck only. Four contested marks for the entire game against Swans. We need someone who can take a grab up forward.
Time for changes to be made!
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Dan Warna » Mon 13 Aug 2007 10:50am
watts to be phased IMO.
give him a job on the HFF, FP while training him to eventually replace FG.
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:37am
Dan Warna wrote: watts to be phased IMO.
give him a job on the HFF, FP while training him to eventually replace FG.
HFF? he runs about as fast as a turtle with 3 broken legs!
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Dan Warna » Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:41am
fonz_#15 wrote: Dan Warna wrote: watts to be phased IMO.
give him a job on the HFF, FP while training him to eventually replace FG.
HFF? he runs about as fast as a turtle with 3 broken legs!
so he's pacier than doc clarke and shane birss? WOOT!!!
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:44am
doc clarke is on the cusp of retirement, Watts is 21-22? Also Clarke is a ruck.
Shane Birss is not that slow!
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Dan Warna » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:06pm
i haven't been to casey games but the reports coming out would indicated watts has a bit of talent.
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Otiman » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:12pm
Averaged 2 goals a game as a spearhead FF, Sweeney was kicking more goals than him. Kicked 7 last week with Sweeney playing VFL reserves (and kicked 4 there), but that's no real indication of consistent form.
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sabras » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:42pm
I don't care what you guys want to say but Gehrig needs time of....or retirement....
Bring in Watts he would have been more competitive and kicked 2 or more on the weekend against Sydney,
I dare someone to dispute this fact....
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:49pm
sabras wrote: I don't care what you guys want to say but Gehrig needs time of....or retirement....
Bring in Watts he would have been more competitive and kicked 2 or more on the weekend against Sydney,
I dare someone to dispute this fact....
ok let it be me...
with that garbage style of football, lockett would have struggled
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sabras » Mon 13 Aug 2007 12:58pm
and let me reply to you - Gehrig is not playing team footy and has not been all year, maybe a week of will motivate him back in the fold but on top of this his hand is obviously hampering him and watts deserves to be given a go after the run he has had in the scorps since his return from injury...
Gehrig out, watts in....
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:02pm
i think he is playing team football by showing up every week under some duress with injury. he is having a crack and the bullshyte his team-mates are serving him is the reason he looks disinterested.
our problems run far deeper than the g-train methinks
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supersaints » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:03pm
Watts does have some talent, I think Sweeney has a lot.
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:06pm
supersaints wrote: Watts does have some talent, I think Sweeney has a lot.
it all comes down to attitude and application
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sabras » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:26pm
fonz_#15 wrote: supersaints wrote: Watts does have some talent, I think Sweeney has a lot.
it all comes down to attitude and application
give the train the week of, bring on the wattrain
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sabras » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:27pm
sorry that was a shocker of a pun, all crediblity lost...
do you know watt i mean?
again couldn't help myself....
just bring him on for a few games pre finals (which we will make) and let the g train rest up....
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fonz_#15 » Mon 13 Aug 2007 1:32pm
sabras wrote: fonz_#15 wrote: supersaints wrote: Watts does have some talent, I think Sweeney has a lot.
it all comes down to attitude and application
give the train the week of, bring on the wattrain
i was referring to sweeney but anyways...
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