Battle told not to attend B and F

[Sanctorum]

I can't imagine the club would have put any pressure on Josh Battle to confirm or deny media reports that he would be moving to Waverley Park next year, and it was his decision to announce that he would take up the Hawks offer sooner rather than later.

So I agree with the view that once he advised the club of his intention to play for Hawthorn next year, he in effect shut the door on his days as a St Kilda player and should have realised that it would be inappropriate for him to attend the Barkers Award night with his former team mates.

It also makes me wonder why he asked if he could run through the banner with his kids rigged up in the club's colours one last time in his final game against Carlton - maybe he is planning to write a book

[WellardSaint]

let him run through a Hawks banner the first time Hawks play us.
Josh wears Hawks colours, the kids just wear their dirty nappies, which are Hawks colours too

[St Dave]

So his family wouldn’t have been supported if he stayed at StK on $950 a year over 6 years?

No-one is saying he wasn't getting a good deal with the Saints reported offer, just that there are ways that what appeared to be walking out for less money can actually be more money in the long run.

We will never know the intricacies of the Saints offer or the Hawks deal so we can never really say which deal was 'better' (both financially and non-financially). Only Battle can do that and he has told us through his decision.

[whiskers3614]

Could it be thst he was pissec off thst King and Hill were on more?

[CURLY]

Could it be thst he was pissec off thst King and Hill were on more?

What's he going to do leave every club where there is someone on more money.

[The_Dud]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

[CURLY]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

[Scollop]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

You're dismissing what he said and you're not actually saying anything specific...as usual

We know he was a Hawthorn supporter growing up, but that's not enough motivation to want to leave a football club you've been part of for 7 years.

Give us something CURLY. Why do you think Battle wanted to leave the Saints?

[CURLY]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

You're dismissing what he said and you're not actually saying anything specific...as usual

We know he was a Hawthorn supporter growing up, but that's not enough motivation to want to leave a football club you've been part of for 7 years.

Give us something CURLY. Why do you think Battle wanted to leave the Saints?

Players leave clubs all the time and no matter how good the culture, environment the success they still leave. It's baffling, frustrating and to be honest mind blowing that you can sit with a bloke that has just played in a Grand Final and they are thinking about going elswhere.
This unfortunately is how clubs and players are.

[Scollop]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

You're dismissing what he said and you're not actually saying anything specific...as usual

We know he was a Hawthorn supporter growing up, but that's not enough motivation to want to leave a football club you've been part of for 7 years.

Give us something CURLY. Why do you think Battle wanted to leave the Saints?

Players leave clubs all the time and no matter how good the culture, environment the success they still leave. It's baffling, frustrating and to be honest mind blowing that you can sit with a bloke that has just played in a Grand Final and they are thinking about going elswhere.
This unfortunately is how clubs and players are.

Thanks for the cliches and generalisations

We don't know how we would understand the world without you

[CURLY]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

You're dismissing what he said and you're not actually saying anything specific...as usual

We know he was a Hawthorn supporter growing up, but that's not enough motivation to want to leave a football club you've been part of for 7 years.

Give us something CURLY. Why do you think Battle wanted to leave the Saints?

Players leave clubs all the time and no matter how good the culture, environment the success they still leave. It's baffling, frustrating and to be honest mind blowing that you can sit with a bloke that has just played in a Grand Final and they are thinking about going elswhere.
This unfortunately is how clubs and players are.

Thanks for the cliches and generalisations

We don't know how we would understand the world without you

Why thank you. Why do you think it has to be something sinister the club has done rather than just another player thats enjoyed being chased.

[Scollop]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

You haven't been around football clubs much have you?

You're dismissing what he said and you're not actually saying anything specific...as usual

We know he was a Hawthorn supporter growing up, but that's not enough motivation to want to leave a football club you've been part of for 7 years.

Give us something CURLY. Why do you think Battle wanted to leave the Saints?

Players leave clubs all the time and no matter how good the culture, environment the success they still leave. It's baffling, frustrating and to be honest mind blowing that you can sit with a bloke that has just played in a Grand Final and they are thinking about going elswhere.
This unfortunately is how clubs and players are.

Thanks for the cliches and generalisations

We don't know how we would understand the world without you

Why thank you. Why do you think it has to be something sinister the club has done rather than just another player thats enjoyed being chased.

Yes he enjoyed being chased. Ok. That was his only motivation was it?

You're quick to accuse me of something specific but you want to talk bs and cliches in response to a direct question

Why did he WANT to LEAVE the Saints?

If you don't know. Then just say so

[Killa]

Perhaps, just perhaps, Kennett has offered him pre selection in a “safe” Liberal seat post his football career

Except that, given the spotlight on just some of the toxic DNA of the Liberal Party and the control Kennett has threatening pre selections, there may not be a Liberal seat in wider Melbourne, let alone a “safe” one Federal or State

Correct assumption?

Don’t know, but as good as any other speculation doing the rounds

One thing for certain, he had made up his mind well before season’s end, if not well sooner

Again noting others have moved from St Kilda to Hawthorn with Robert Harvey going the other way so back to St Kilda

As one who has put that St Kilda require support for Marshall , King and Howard (plus adding midfield class), the absence of Lyon saying Battle is a required player is telling

So Battle, playing as a KPP at 193cms and 83kgs was part of the problem, not part of the fix

And his lack of flexibility despite opportunity being given

Anyway he is now in the employ of a competitor Club and his locker at St Kilda is empty awaiting the next user

Life goes on

[Sainternist]

This video explains it pretty well:



It was another dumb media beat up, nothing more.

[Scollop]

As one who has put that St Kilda require support for Marshall , King and Howard (plus adding midfield class), the absence of Lyon saying Battle is a required player is telling

So Battle, playing as a KPP at 193cms and 83kgs was part of the problem, not part of the fix

We're on the same wavelength. I said this back in May

https://www.saintsational.net/viewtopic ... 2#p2062412

[SydneySainter]

While in one hand it may sound petty, but there is likely more than one side to this story.

If players and staff alike are snubbing Battle, it may be more than just sour grapes. As good a player as Battle is, we aren’t losing a league top fiver.

Maybe there is discontent as to how Battle handled the negotiation process, what he told his peers compared to what transpired?

Maybe it’s warranted, maybe not.

All I know is that we’ve recently tried being the club of pleasant, cuddly men and that certainly hasn’t helped our brand.

[SaintPav]

What’s the price of a ticket these days?

$250? Plus extras drinking like a horse.

He won’t be eating and drinking on the club tit.

Not on my watch!

[D.B.Cooper]

People keep stating (as fact) Battle left for less money than we offered.

I am yet to see one piece of evidence proving this.

Surely the reliable Tom Morris is not the source?

[Kent the Butler]

It's pretty obvious he's left because he thinks he'll have more chance of success at Hawthorn.

The hard question to ask is then, what does that say about the direction of the club if someone who's been there for years and a part of the inner sanctum doesn't see success on the horizon?

One player leaving ...that's a massive sign of a lack of faith in the Club's direction.
Maybe Josh wants to support them in the Federal Court, or is cool with their family planning advice to their players' partners...
I take it you're a big fan of the Hawks' past culture, Dud?

[WellardSaint]

Another rumour is that his dad refused to attend his games. Rumour.
He's one guy. He preferred the Hawks for a few reasons, and only a few (Wilkie and some other players) would know the truth.
If he's peed off about Hill's+King's $$ that's the fault of Lethlean etc for wasting $ on Hanneberry, but I suspect it's not the sole reason

[Kent the Butler]

Total rumour.
His Dad was a regular in the Quill Room for Saints' Level 2 Reserved Seat members

[saintbob]

Apparently Battle was asked not to attend the Best and Fairest.

What are peoples thoughts on this.

It’s an absolute s*** go, if it’s true.

Clubs need to be better than that, I’m sure the players wouldn’t have given two f**** and would’ve preferred to see him there.

[bigcarl]

He lied to his teammates and coach, saying he would remain a Saint only a day before telling the world he would be leaving us for less money to go to the Dingley Tip.

Yes, that was ordinary

[spert]

Another rumour is that his dad refused to attend his games. Rumour.
He's one guy. He preferred the Hawks for a few reasons, and only a few (Wilkie and some other players) would know the truth.
If he's peed off about Hill's+King's $$ that's the fault of Lethlean etc for wasting $ on Hanneberry, but I suspect it's not the sole reason

He was also pretty pi$$ed off with Ratten getting the flick apparently, but not every thing that happens in footy clubs, pleases everyone. Let's go forward..there's a new season coming.

[SaintPav]

Yeah he was also pissed off that Watters got the flick.

He thought that he was going to be the next big thing.