Hits Outs and Ruckmen
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Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Completely Overrated
Grundy AA Ruck vs Fort VFL ruckman
Hit Outs at HT
14-9 to Grundy
Clearances
17-13 Brisbane
Centre Clearances
10-6 Brisbane
Grundy AA Ruck vs Fort VFL ruckman
Hit Outs at HT
14-9 to Grundy
Clearances
17-13 Brisbane
Centre Clearances
10-6 Brisbane
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Couldn't agree more B.M!
And in so many ruck contests, I reckon one would need the super sl-mo to work out who even got the tap.
And in so many ruck contests, I reckon one would need the super sl-mo to work out who even got the tap.
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
It’s why recruiting big lumbering Ruckmen like Trent Knobel, Billy Longer and the like is futile
They MUST be able to play.
They MUST be able to play.
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Grundy was awesome today but not enough Sydney team mates switched on to make it a contest.
Neale, McCluggage, Ashcroft, and Jarrod Berry were on from the first bounce.
They were the top 4 possession getters in the first quarter. All these guys hunted the ball and probably only Dunkley was needed to be the one focused on defence and restricting his opponent.
It takes a lot of very very good planning against opposition sides during the year, but I reckon the Grand Final gets back to the basics of our game. Win first possession, share the footy, and execute well into forward 50.
Fagan simplified things for his players and had them mentally prepared to play at their best. Horse failed to do that
Neale, McCluggage, Ashcroft, and Jarrod Berry were on from the first bounce.
They were the top 4 possession getters in the first quarter. All these guys hunted the ball and probably only Dunkley was needed to be the one focused on defence and restricting his opponent.
It takes a lot of very very good planning against opposition sides during the year, but I reckon the Grand Final gets back to the basics of our game. Win first possession, share the footy, and execute well into forward 50.
Fagan simplified things for his players and had them mentally prepared to play at their best. Horse failed to do that
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Shallow analysis.
Need to deep dive into the data a bit more (two levels) me thinks and needs to be combined with some video analysis before making firm conclusions.
Need to deep dive into the data a bit more (two levels) me thinks and needs to be combined with some video analysis before making firm conclusions.
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
So if the hitouts don't matter, you want a ruckman that can influence around the ground. Is that the point you were trying to make?
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Contested possessions were pretty even in the first quarter. Inside 50's were pretty even in the 1st quarter. Scores were tight
Uncontested possessions were dominated by Brisbane as were their inside 50's in the 2nd quarter . They also had more contested possessions.They were tough. Their tackle numbers were higher than Sydney in 2nd quarter.
207 disposals to Brisbane in the 1st half versus only 142 to Sydney. That's a huge difference
They controlled the footy but they were also bold. They kicked a big score up until half time... Game over
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
I think it’s the most overrated stat in footy
Brodie Grundy dominated hit outs today
Brisbane won by 60 and won clearance and centre clearance
So yeah, I want a ruckman who can influence around the ground
Clearances are 90% up to the Mids
Brodie Grundy dominated hit outs today
Brisbane won by 60 and won clearance and centre clearance
So yeah, I want a ruckman who can influence around the ground
Clearances are 90% up to the Mids
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
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Sure, but I was referring to ruckman generally.Scollop wrote: ↑Sat 28 Sep 2024 9:02pmContested possessions were pretty even in the first quarter. Inside 50's were pretty even in the 1st quarter. Scores were tight
Uncontested possessions were dominated by Brisbane as were their inside 50's in the 2nd quarter . They also had more contested possessions.They were tough. Their tackle numbers were higher than Sydney in 2nd quarter.
207 disposals to Brisbane in the 1st half versus only 142 to Sydney. That's a huge difference
They controlled the footy but they were also bold. They kicked a big score up until half time... Game over
I will give you an example of the value of ruckman:
Jolly and Ball in the 2004 Preliminary Final, particularly in the final quarter.
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
2004
Sydney weren’t even in the Preliminary Final
We played Port
Geel played Bris
We smashed Sydney in the Semi Final
Sydney weren’t even in the Preliminary Final
We played Port
Geel played Bris
We smashed Sydney in the Semi Final
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2005
We were beaten by Sydney after being in front at 3q time
We stopped as injury took its toll
Ironically we won the Hit Outs 42-37
Schneider turned it on and did the damage
We were beaten by Sydney after being in front at 3q time
We stopped as injury took its toll
Ironically we won the Hit Outs 42-37
Schneider turned it on and did the damage
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Best Players
StK: Dal Santo, Harvey, Hudghton, Jones
Gehrig, Baker, Montagna
Syd: O'Keefe, Hall, C. Bolton, J. Bolton,
Schneider, Kennelly, Ablett, Crouch,
StK: Dal Santo, Harvey, Hudghton, Jones
Gehrig, Baker, Montagna
Syd: O'Keefe, Hall, C. Bolton, J. Bolton,
Schneider, Kennelly, Ablett, Crouch,
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
I meant 2005.
We obviously didn’t watch the same game.
Watch it again. It’s on YouTube
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Re: Hits Outs and Ruckmen
Jason Ball
14 hit outs 7 possessions
Darren Jolly
17 hit outs 9 possessions
Cain Ackland
22 hit outs 6 possessions
Jason Blake
14 hit outs 10 possessions
Lenny 3 hit outs, Roo 1 hit out
We won hit outs 42-37
We won clearances 36-35
No ruckman from either team named in the best players as I posted above
14 hit outs 7 possessions
Darren Jolly
17 hit outs 9 possessions
Cain Ackland
22 hit outs 6 possessions
Jason Blake
14 hit outs 10 possessions
Lenny 3 hit outs, Roo 1 hit out
We won hit outs 42-37
We won clearances 36-35
No ruckman from either team named in the best players as I posted above
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I prefer granular data.
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