Players linked to StK

[B.M]

Dylan Sheil
Adam Tomlinson
Jack McCrae


Players on the out
Seb Ross - Gone
Brad Crouch - not sure? Knee is gone but he’s triggered his contract
Tim Membrey

[cwrcyn]

I don't want any of those players we're supposedly linked to. The point is to move forward, not go backward

[B.M]

Doesn’t it depend on the cost?

Tomlinson replaces Battle if Schoenmaker surpasses Tomlinson he plays VFL as depth

McCrae would replace Ross and add depth, experience and ball winning ability to our mids

Sheil - I would only take if Crouch is delisted due to injury.
If Garcia surpasses Jones or Sheil - they play VFL as depth

Van Es
Allison

Replaced by draft picks

[B.M]

I would give up absolutely FA for any of those players

[D.B.Cooper]

I would give up absolutely FA for any of those players

All would come on decent pay for back up and VFL.

McCrae the only one I would consider and only if he came with a gift.

[Devilhead]

I thought Shiel was a definite no that we were chasing him?

Macrae is likely though Geelong apparently now in the hunt

[SAINT-LEE]

Doesn’t it depend on the cost?

Tomlinson replaces Battle if Schoenmaker surpasses Tomlinson he plays VFL as depth

McCrae would replace Ross and add depth, experience and ball winning ability to our mids

Sheil - I would only take if Crouch is delisted due to injury.
If Garcia surpasses Jones or Sheil - they play VFL as depth

Van Es
Allison

Replaced by draft picks

100%.
If we get high quality mids for chips, that offer mentoring capacity to our youth in the vfl and maybe if we're lucky they smash out 1 or 2 years of top AFL form, who's laughing?
Us.

They're not the future of the club but cogs needed to build. We see what happened to King & others without elite older KPP to mentor, shield and guide.
The ultimate example is Kangas...they dropped all their legends to save a few quid and found themselves with no onfield presence to teach/model culture and mentor the youth.

[Scollop]

We have enough experience on our list. We're not retiring or delisting them all at the same time like North Melbourne did

We're not about to drop to 17th or 18th on the ladder if we recruit youth instead of washed up 31 year olds

No to Jack McCrae and no to Dylan Shiel

If Hawthorn kept their older midfielders like Liam Shiels, Tom Mitchell and Jaeger O'Meara they'd never be in this situation right now.

Their young mids along with guys like Moore and McDonald have thrived with the responsibility and with games experience

I don't want my club to stay in 7th-14th position on the ladder for another 5 years

[Sainternist]

Shiel can get stuffed! He turned his nose up at our offer for Essendon, FFS.

I’m on the fence with McCrae. Tomlinson would at least cost next to nothing.

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

McCrae -Yes, especially if Crouch has to pull the pin.

No to the others.

[CURLY]

McRae a big tick.

[Brunswicksainter]

Sheil is not linked to St Kilda. Morris, Edmund and Ralph have all separately reported we are not interested and the deal won’t go ahead.

I am completely against the signing of macrae. He’s salary has been reported at $950k a year over the next 3 seasons. He’s barely best 22 at st Kilda has been very poor for years now. Should only pursue if the dogs are paying some of his salary or where getting a decent draft pick for taking his salary off the books.

[Scollop]

McCrae -Yes, especially if Crouch has to pull the pin.

No to the others.

Let’s assume for a moment that Brad Crouch recovered half way through 2024 and that he played as a midfielder for the last 3-4 games. What’s the point? Why hold back the advancement of the team to see if Crouch hopefully gets back his 2023 form

Same thing with McCrae. We are hoping he regains his old form. Might as well just hang on to Seb Ross and hope he does as well.

Marcus Windhager, Liam Henry, Hugo Garcia, Paddy Dow and Mattaes Phillipou along with other guys will be denied midfield time if we recruit McCrae

It’s a fantasy to believe that McCrae is the missing piece that gets us to top 4 and a chance at a premiership. If he was 28 maybe I’d consider it, but he really has been left behind as far as being an impact player in 2024. Watch his last few senior games for the Bulldogs. McCrae is washed up. He’s cooked. He’s slow

Paddy Dow (*better clearance numbers) and Marcus Windhager are better as inside mids and we have players like Liam Henry and Wilson and others who will provide a lot more on the outside.

* https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... 1=S&fid2=S

[BadRossco]

Take a chance on kids not other clubs rejects, we already have a reputation as the departure lounge let’s not enhance it.

[B.M]

Are they rejects? They requested trades

Mason Wood was a reject, as were many players we’ve picked up from other clubs.

Look at the reasons they are on the outer, can they add value

We will address the midfield imo

Ross keeps mentioning it

[Beno88]

Crouch will not play in 2025.

[D.B.Cooper]

List strategy will be interesting.

4 live picks in draft:

#7 + # Battle + # 24 + # 35
Perhaps 2 X rookies = 6 players

Already gone:
Battle, Allison, Campbell, Van Es, Ross, Bonner = 6 players

If they want to let Paton, Crouch and Hayes or any others go, they need to replace them.
So DFA or a trade for McCrae for example that does not cost a live pick might be the strategy that tops up the list.

[Mr Magic]

Is Tomlinson better value to us on the list than Hayes?

[Charlie Parker]

If we are looking at McCrae, why aren't we also looking at Luke Parker ? You'd think he'd prefer us to Norf ......

[saynta]

List strategy will be interesting.

4 live picks in draft:

#7 + # Battle + # 24 + # 35
Perhaps 2 X rookies = 6 players

Already gone:
Battle, Allison, Campbell, Van Es, Ross, Bonner = 6 players

If they want to let Paton, Crouch and Hayes or any others go, they need to replace them.
So DFA or a trade for McCrae for example that does not cost a live pick might be the strategy that tops up the list.

Because we picked up an extra player..Hall ..in the mid season draft we have to delist one more than we can pick up.

[saynta]

Is Tomlinson better value to us on the list than Hayes?

Would not think so.

[SaintPav]

Hard to get too excited about any of these players listed above.

I still think we probably need a top up of 1-2 players.

[B.M]

Could Hayes play CHB?

[TheGreatZacsby]

I would give up absolutely FA for any of those players

B.M, for once I totally agree. Only player I’m willing to throw picks at is Bailey Smith. Even then I don’t like the prick and he doesn’t want to come.

Luke Parker is interesting. He’s a solid player.

[SaintPav]

What about Caleb Daniel?

Great kick.

As long as the price isn’t too high I think he would definitely add value to the list.