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MRO is an inconsistent fool

Post: # 2075387Post Scollop »

How the fkn hell did Christian earn the right to this job?

There is no way Kosi should be suspended. On a wet night you’ve got two guys trying to win a loose ground ball.

One bloke is 6’ 8” or over 200cm and the other is 171cm or basically 5’ 3”. They are running side by side

What did he expect Kosi to do? Tackle a guy who hasn’t got the ball!! Of course he was going to bump him.

Michael Christian is totally ignoring how 2 players contest a footy.

You have no choice but to be physical and try and unbalance your opponent. Problem is…Moore slid to try and unbalance Pickett and he slid right into Pickett’s forearm.

https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/video/he ... p-1376287/

Kosi didn’t aim for Darcy’s head the way Mitch Duncan aimed for Robbie Fox’s head. Duncan wasn’t even cited by Christian.

MRO wants to rub out Pickett for 3 weeks. Why didn’t he suspend Mitch Duncan for a much worse incident. Duncan knew what he was doing because he could see Fox coming. Pickett had no idea where Moore’s head was

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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

Post: # 2075398Post wally »

If it was Maynard on Pickett would have been free for sliding under and taking his legs out.


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

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Why didn’t Pickett choose to contest the ball?


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

Post: # 2075430Post The_Dud »

How does suspending Pickett help or hinder Collingwood?


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

Post: # 2075431Post Scollop »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:12pm Why didn’t Pickett choose to contest the ball?
This is Aussie rules it's not netball.

How did you learn to contest the ball in that specific situation?

Both players are running towards the footy on the ground. You're allowed to bump your opponent if the ball is within 5 m aren't you?

Pickett can't predict that Moore would go to ground. Moore slid into the point of contact with Pickett's arm. Pickett didn't line him up


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

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The_Dud wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:35pm How does suspending Pickett help or hinder Collingwood?
That's the point of the thread is it. I could have said the blonde haired stooge. Would you have made a comment in support of people with blonde hair?


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

Post: # 2075434Post D.B.Cooper »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:12pm Why didn’t Pickett choose to contest the ball?
Spot on, if you contest the ball it is ambiguous and often unintentional contact.

I think it was Mitch against Geelong when he got someone high with his shoulder, but at the point of contact Mitch had hands on the ball so no penalty.

I don’t agree with the current ruling, however Pickett elected to bump and not go for the ball and should wear the consequences inder the current rules.

Also if it is Collingwood bias, where is the advantage to Collingwood in this decision?


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:43pm
I don’t agree with the current ruling, however Pickett elected to bump and not go for the ball and should wear the consequences inder the current rules.
You don't 'elect to bump' someone without the footy.

The phrase is misunderstood and not really applicable in this instance.

You can't tackle someone who doesn't have it...can you?

It's your only option when jostling for position. It happens in all contact sport.

Did Pickett swing his arm or target Moore in any manner? If Moore doesn't slide or go to ground it's just two guys with arms across each other.

People are getting confused with what actually happened. Pickett is in the act of nudging Moore or trying to unbalance him.

They are both looking at the ball and running at speed to try and win possession. Moore unfortunately slides right into Pickett's arm.

Pickett hasn't premeditated that he's going to clip Moore in the head when they see a loose footy.


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Post: # 2075441Post Scollop »

I shouldn't have included the reference to Michael Christian being a 'biased Collingwood stooge'.

It deflected the topic unnecessarily.

I was trying to describe him and didn't intend to imply that his decisions are always in favour of his former club.

I used the word biased, but perhaps inconsistent fool would have been more appropriate.


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Re: MRO is a biased Collingwood stooge

Post: # 2075442Post Big Max »

Personally I would have penalized Pickett more harshly than Dan Houston.

Houston avoided the head, and has a clean record.

Pickett deliberately hit Moore head high, he wasn't going for the ball and he's a known offender.

Both victims were concussed, Moore because he was hit in the head and Rankin when he fell on the ground.


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Pickett deliberately hit Moore head high
That's rubbish. Pickett had no intent. He did not initiate the contact. Houston did.

Pickett...in fact couldn't avoid the contact

1. Two players running next to each other and both are upright prior to any physical contact between them.

2. Moore knew he couldn't outrun Pickett and his decision to slide was the reason that contact with Pickett's forearm happened.

3. The conditions should be taken into account. Moore slid in the wet. His actions caused the head high contact.

The fact that a football incident where an accidental head high contact results in concussion is not a reason for a suspension.

What is clear ...is that people are confused.

I don't think people like Christian know what common sense is.

The AFL missed an opportunity 10 years ago to clearly define what is acceptable and what isn't


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Post: # 2075445Post B.M »

Been around for 10+ years

If you choose to bump and get someone high you are in trouble


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Re: MRO is an inconsistent fool

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B.M wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 4:19pm Been around for 10+ years

If you choose to bump and get someone high you are in trouble
Why are you quoting a cliche? It's a bs simplification

It is only relevant when you've got a player with the footy in their hands and an opponent chooses to bump

How can you tackle someone who doesn't have the footy.

On the other hand... for the 3rd time...you are allowed to bump and jostle for position prior to taking possession. The ball was within 5m.

The only question remains...did Moore contribute to getting hit head high? How could Pickett predict Moore was sliding into him?

There have been several incidents where a player made contact with someone's head and they weren't suspended if it was accidental


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Fifteen years ago we starting hearing 'the head is sacrosanct'. The AFL flip flopped over the last 10 years. They were afraid of changing the 'fabric of the game' and alienating their traditional fan base

Now, in the last 2-3 years with the massive class actions underway for concussion, they've finally twigged that they can't ignore the evidence...and they can't ignore the increase to their insurance premiums and potential compensation payouts.

The problem is that there have been too many inconsistencies at the tribunal and with some of the MRO's decisions


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Post: # 2075456Post D.B.Cooper »

Scollop wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 3:08pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:43pm
I don’t agree with the current ruling, however Pickett elected to bump and not go for the ball and should wear the consequences inder the current rules.
You don't 'elect to bump' someone without the footy.

The phrase is misunderstood and not really applicable in this instance.

You can't tackle someone who doesn't have it...can you?

It's your only option when jostling for position. It happens in all contact sport.

Did Pickett swing his arm or target Moore in any manner? If Moore doesn't slide or go to ground it's just two guys with arms across each other.

People are getting confused with what actually happened. Pickett is in the act of nudging Moore or trying to unbalance him.

They are both looking at the ball and running at speed to try and win possession. Moore unfortunately slides right into Pickett's arm.

Pickett hasn't premeditated that he's going to clip Moore in the head when they see a loose footy.
Very simple Scollop, don't think anyone is confused other than you, he didn't go for the ball and elected to bump.
Will cop a suspension every day of the week for that and deservedly so.


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 4:55pm
Scollop wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 3:08pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:43pm
I don’t agree with the current ruling, however Pickett elected to bump and not go for the ball and should wear the consequences inder the current rules.
You don't 'elect to bump' someone without the footy.

The phrase is misunderstood and not really applicable in this instance.

You can't tackle someone who doesn't have it...can you?

It's your only option when jostling for position. It happens in all contact sport.

Did Pickett swing his arm or target Moore in any manner? If Moore doesn't slide or go to ground it's just two guys with arms across each other.

People are getting confused with what actually happened. Pickett is in the act of nudging Moore or trying to unbalance him.

They are both looking at the ball and running at speed to try and win possession. Moore unfortunately slides right into Pickett's arm.

Pickett hasn't premeditated that he's going to clip Moore in the head when they see a loose footy.
Very simple Scollop, don't think anyone is confused other than you, he didn't go for the ball and elected to bump.
Will cop a suspension every day of the week for that and deservedly so.
Don't patronise me Joffa. Most of these incidents are a lottery.

To give you an example of how ridiculous the system is; the tribunal asked Andrew Mackay and Brayden Maynard what their intentions were.

He was contesting and jostling for a loose ground ball. He didn't elect for Moore to slide into him. He didn't choose to target Moore's head.

How can you say 'he didn't go for the ball'? That's basically a statement from someone that's never played the game.


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Post: # 2075497Post D.B.Cooper »

Scollop wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 5:32pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 4:55pm
Scollop wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 3:08pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 2:43pm
I don’t agree with the current ruling, however Pickett elected to bump and not go for the ball and should wear the consequences inder the current rules.
You don't 'elect to bump' someone without the footy.

The phrase is misunderstood and not really applicable in this instance.

You can't tackle someone who doesn't have it...can you?

It's your only option when jostling for position. It happens in all contact sport.

Did Pickett swing his arm or target Moore in any manner? If Moore doesn't slide or go to ground it's just two guys with arms across each other.

People are getting confused with what actually happened. Pickett is in the act of nudging Moore or trying to unbalance him.

They are both looking at the ball and running at speed to try and win possession. Moore unfortunately slides right into Pickett's arm.

Pickett hasn't premeditated that he's going to clip Moore in the head when they see a loose footy.
Very simple Scollop, don't think anyone is confused other than you, he didn't go for the ball and elected to bump.
Will cop a suspension every day of the week for that and deservedly so.
Don't patronise me Joffa. Most of these incidents are a lottery.

To give you an example of how ridiculous the system is; the tribunal asked Andrew Mackay and Brayden Maynard what their intentions were.

He was contesting and jostling for a loose ground ball. He didn't elect for Moore to slide into him. He didn't choose to target Moore's head.

How can you say 'he didn't go for the ball'? That's basically a statement from someone that's never played the game.
It is hard not to patronize stupidity Scollop.

You also don't understand the meaning of jostling.

Pickett was not jostling with Moore as there was no contact until Pickett chose to bump Moore.

I reiterate, it's pretty simple Scollop, go for the ball and there is no issue, ignore the ball and choose to bump and you will be rightfully penalised.

Dictionary
jostle
verb
jostling: push, elbow, or bump against (someone) roughly, typically in a crowd.


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Stop being a f'wit Joffa

Fox Footy’s panel was split in their opinion. These are all people who get paid to communicate and express their understanding and even they're confused.

This is the state of the game regarding head knocks. Everyone has shiitt themselves whenever someone gets concussion.


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Post: # 2075589Post D.B.Cooper »

Scollop wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 5:47pm Stop being a f'wit Joffa

Fox Footy’s panel was split in their opinion. These are all people who get paid to communicate and express their understanding and even they're confused.

This is the state of the game regarding head knocks. Everyone has shiitt themselves whenever someone gets concussion.
F'wit?

You have completely lost the plot now you are resorting to swearing and name calling Scollop.

Not surprising from you, it is about what I'd expect.

Have a good night and enjoy the Saints win!

I wont be responding to your stupidity anymore.


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Post: # 2075612Post B.M »

Why didn’t he just go for the footy?

That’s the question

He chose to bump - got him high

It’s that simple


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B.M wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 7:13pm
He chose to bump - got him high

It’s that simple
You're being simple. It's something I'd expect from different posters, but not you

Moore is 6 foot 8 inches and he's running at the footy and you have Kosi at 5 foot nothing running at it as well. Kosi didn't swing an arm at a guy standing upright did he? We can all agree on that. The way people are describing the contact... that's what you're trying to argue

Kosi was trying to position himself in front. There is no way that Kosi knew Moore was sliding his face into Kosi's arm. If you think he knew... you're deluded

Tell me how you would personally attack a loose ground ball if you have an opponent next to you and you're both running for the ball?

Let's say you're teaching a young kid how to approach winning that football. What would you say to them?


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Post: # 2075660Post B.M »

I think it’s pretty cut and dried

He bumped
Got him high
He was concussed

He had a play on the ball, chose to bump Moore. Got him in the head. Doesn’t matter whether he meant to get him high, it only matters that he did


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B.M wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 8:36pm I think it’s pretty cut and dried

He bumped
Got him high
He was concussed

He had a play on the ball, chose to bump Moore. Got him in the head. Doesn’t matter whether he meant to get him high, it only matters that he did
How did he get him high?

If you run straight into a tree with your head, is it the tree's fault that you got hit high?


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Post: # 2075663Post Nick DalSanto Claus »

The thread's title is a tautology.


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Next time I'll just go with

MRO is an incompetent fool


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