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Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075364Post hamborger »

Been having conflicted emotions the last few days considering what happens if we beat Carlton. Would love nothing more than to ruin their season, but is it worth Sliding to Pick 7? The Demons slaughtered their percentage, and Gold Coast couldn't bury the Tigers, so we'd overtake them both by percentage and sit at 12th. Seen a lot of people saying we'll miss out on some really good kids if we do (Lalor, Langford, etc.)

Obviously SOS and Dalrymple should have a good night at the draft regardless of our picks, but I wanted to get everyone else's opinion. Would you rather have Pick 5/6 and get top tier young talent, or slide all for the sake of beating the baggers to finish the season?


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075365Post Brunswicksainter »

Pick 7* or beat Carlton. Ashcroft and Lombard are both pledged and top 5.

If we win then it’s most likely pick 10. With Isaac kako now looking likely top 10.

So 7 or 10 that is the trade off.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075367Post King Max »

I don’t care who we’re playing, just win.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075374Post Otiman »

If it was 1 draft pick place, and the additional pick for Battle wasnt on the line too, I'd say knock Carlton out of the finals at all costs.

If we win we are 12th, and lose and we're 14th. The answer is a no brainer. We have proven ourself last week I'm OK if we drop this one.

As it stands if Port beats Freo, it wont matter what we do to Carlton.

Regardless of the pick number, if we beat Carlton then Melbourne and Gold Coast will both jump us in the draft. And with two picks on offer potentially, it's crazy to win.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075375Post Vortex »

Pick 5 every day of the week


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075376Post Beno88 »

I’m astonished this is even a conversation.

When the actual ***k do you ever want to lose to Carlton?!

Are people seriously prepared to give away beating Carlton in front of 40,000+ of their pigheaded fans, while simultaneously destroying their finals hopes, for just two draft spots?

I remember Justin Langer explaining to a very raw Australian one day side after a loss at Lord's, it’s never ok to lose to England.

Anyone with any knowledge of our club’s history knows, it’s never ok to lose to Carlton.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075378Post WellardSaint »

Otiman wrote: Sat 24 Aug 2024 10:08pm If it was 1 draft pick place, and the additional pick for Battle wasnt on the line too, I'd say knock Carlton out of the finals at all costs.

If we win we are 12th, and lose and we're 14th. The answer is a no brainer. We have proven ourself last week I'm OK if we drop this one.

As it stands if Port beats Freo, it wont matter what we do to Carlton.

Regardless of the pick number, if we beat Carlton then Melbourne and Gold Coast will both jump us in the draft. And with two picks on offer potentially, it's crazy to win.
What happens if Port beats Freo?


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075379Post meher baba »

Tanking tomorrow would send a message to our fine group of older stars) Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, etc - that we have no plans to play late in September for the rest of their careers.

Which would be a really dumb and demoralising thing to do.

So I guess that’s what’ll happen. :-(


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075382Post Scollop »

WellardSaint wrote: Sat 24 Aug 2024 10:40pm
What happens if Port beats Freo?
Carlton sneak in and make finals regardless of the result in our match


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075383Post Scollop »

meher baba wrote: Sat 24 Aug 2024 10:43pm Tanking tomorrow would send a message to our fine group of older stars) Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, etc - that we have no plans to play late in September for the rest of their careers.

Which would be a really dumb and demoralising thing to do.

So I guess that’s what’ll happen. :-(
I don't think so.

This is our last match of the year. Our Grand Final. I hope the team play their best football and we get a win


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075384Post ausfatcat »

won't be much dif between 5 and 6 this year, so lets keep the scum out of finals


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075385Post Moods »

I’m presuming those ok with us losing tomorrow aren’t bothering to go to the game, or even watch it?

Whenever I go to watch the Saints I want to win. Why waste your time otherwise. With the team the Blues are fielding we would have to play absolutely putrid to lose. No way! Last week was great fun, and I want to see more of it.

Not like Harley Reid is at stake. Very even too 15 players apparently. Tanking would be madness


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

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Blues supporters shitting themselves.

Priceless.

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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carl

Post: # 2075391Post bigcarl »

Just win. You can just as easily get a dud with pick 5 as you can with 7 or 8.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075394Post Devilhead »

Win the match
Lose the match
Draw the match

Any result we win :twisted:


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075396Post The Fireman »

In the past we had so many beautiful pics and failed to pick the good ones so I’m happy to take the cheating w*** out of the equation


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075399Post Banger9798 »

All in on the win.
f*** Carlton, they wanted us out of the league.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075406Post samuraisaint »

Unfortunately, I am not conflicted as some on here.

Because I just want us to win and win well. I think some people who want us to lose don't go to games. Go over to Carlton socials and see what they think of us. And they are not alone. If the club don't try today and we lose because of that, that is a shocker. If Carlton are the better team on the day - and they certainly have the motivation - I can live with that, as unpalatable as it may seem.

What have our club done with high draft picks in the past anyway? - pissed ,em away.

JB - at Melbourne now
Paddy - finished up at the Swans
Coffield - Bulldogs - in and out of the side
Gresham - at Essendon

As Willie Shakespeare famously opined - "the game is the thing"

Think about it.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075408Post D.B.Cooper »

Smash Carlton into the turf and finish their finals hope.

End the season on a high and go into the preseason with momentum and belief.

I love smashing Essendon and Carltons finals plans. Crush them!


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075415Post Rubyjo »

We can't go out to lose for an unknown quality draft pick. We cannot bank on early draft picks being elite talent that will work for us , been there and done that more than once...we cannot predict the future so we must play in the present. A good win here will show the world and the people at the club we are heading in the right direction and that Is gold going forward.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075416Post Nick DalSanto Claus »

We have to beat those arrogant, corrupt, big nosed, plastic gangster, Lygon Street coffee waiters at all costs.

Never give that scum an even break. The most detestable club, and supporters, in the competition. They have achieved nothing in the past 29 years, apart from "winning" more wooden spoons than you'd find in the kitchen of Masterchef.

F*** those deluded, entitled, born to rule, inbred wankers. We must win x 1000!

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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075418Post Killa »

If you are not going to give your best effort don’t bother about turning up - and that goes for supporters also


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

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Torn…


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075423Post saintsRrising »

I want to win.

But Port will most beat Freo, and so the Blues will be playing finals even if they lose to us. So if that is your reason, then think again.

If GWS win today, then Port need to win to get Top 2. If GWS lose, then Port still need to play well as if they lose to Freo they may also lose a home final.


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Re: Pick 5 or beat Carlton

Post: # 2075435Post The G Train Legacy »

saintsRrising wrote: Sun 25 Aug 2024 1:09pm I want to win.

But Port will most beat Freo, and so the Blues will be playing finals even if they lose to us. So if that is your reason, then think again.

If GWS win today, then Port need to win to get Top 2. If GWS lose, then Port still need to play well as if they lose to Freo they may also lose a home final.
If The Bulldogs beat GWS then Port will have nothing to play for and will rest players. In that case, Freo will beat them for sure.


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