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Forwards live and die by the opportunities their mids give them
The other way around too, mids live and die by the options the forwards give them with their decisions making towards forward entries, when forwards don't present options, midfielders hesitate, they get indecisive, they panick, they give the opposition time to set up behind the ball, and guess what they do after all of that happens, THEY BOMB THE BALL INTO THE FORWARD LINE, just to get rid of the ball and make it someone else's problem.
Our forward entries have been predictable for years and fans have bemoaned the BOMB into the forward line just as long.
It's a two way street.
King has to learn a new trick over summer, like rucking, we need to move him out of the forward line in games when we need some unpredictability.
Good points. Having many viable, mobile targets - rather than just one (largely stationary and double teamed) - encourages dare and quick ball movement from upfield.
That is not to say that the midfield doesn’t need improvement. It does. But the two are interdependent
B.M wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jul 2024 4:05pm
Did we need to move Tony Lockett out of the forward line to be less predictable
Should Carlton move Curnow out of the 50?
I’ll say it again
Just because Max is in the forward line doesn’t mean we MUST kick it to him
But he is a nice option when you have no other.
He kicked 48 as a 21yo
If he can bag 60 next year - we play finals
We have NO other forward capable of kicking 50
Marto, let me tell you that Max King is no Tony Lockett. He’s also got a way to go to get even to Curnow’s level.
Personally, I’m not arguing to have him out of the forward line. Just that we have to be very careful about its structure and always wary of being predictable.
I wouldn’t play him deep as a rule for instance. Needs to get out and on the move. Him deep with two blokes on him is a loser strategy and easily countered
How Max King will be deployed once he is free of injury is the $64 million question arising out of the last two games against WC Eagles and Essendon. I was even thinking that this was yet another indication that the days of the tall key full forward might be over.
Cooper Sharman (193 cm, 88 kg) is a slimmer version of Stewart Loewe (194 cm 108 kg) but this enables him to leap for marks, and he's also a more reliable kick for goal than Buckets who took years to refine that skill.
He is currently on the rookie list and out of contract this year, but it's to be hoped that the club will elevate him with at least a 3 year deal on reasonable coin, because after Saturday's BOG performance other clubs will surely come knocking on his door.
"Where there is no hope, it is incumbent on us to invent it.."
The comparison on King vs Lockett or Curnow is not about their ability
It’s about the stupid argument that the most dangerous forward shouldn’t play forward.
Sharman plays nothing like Loewe
Cooper is a medium forward, more like Jack Gunston or Bailey Fritch- he’s not even 90kg
Loewe was a power forward who monstered opponents with size and strength Loewe was 108 beast
Cooper moves around and jumps
Both have good dukes though
To be our most dangerous forward, firstly King needs to kick straight. I've never been more nervous watching a key forward line up than I am with King.
Trixilver wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jul 2024 11:32pm
To be our most dangerous forward, firstly King needs to kick straight. I've never been more nervous watching a key forward line up than I am with King.
Gold Coast know exactly how you feel. It's a twin thing
Ben King has kicked only 4 goals from his last 19 set shots. The other 9 were behinds and SIX went out on the full
Vortex wrote: ↑Sat 27 Jul 2024 8:15pm
King should be worried!
King should be traded, even if he only fetches a third rounder.
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Devilhead wrote: ↑Sun 04 Aug 2024 10:33pm
Yes it's all Cooper's fault that we got smashed in clearances and contested possessions and couldn't hit the side of a barn door going forward
Damn you Sharman!!
Not a good day for forwards. No supply. Butler and Higgins had 10 touches between them.
Sharman got 9 possessions.
Mason Wood and Bradley Hill play up the ground. What's their excuse?
Saints were missing 5m handballs today.
Saints managed to pick out 3 on 1s and bullseye the 1 with uncanny accuracy (same they had a lion on the chest).
It was infectious. I can't count the number of times played ran under the ball or misjudged it (all of which in saints colours).
Bad execution. Bad anticipation.
Not only Sharman.
Not a forwards day today.
Cooper Sharman didn't just play as a forward, he also popped up in defence and on the wings, presumably under instruction from the coaches box. He shouldn't be crucified because the team as a whole was unable to get hands on the ball first, nor withstand the dominance of the Lions all over the ground.
On yesterdays form the Lions would have beaten every other contender for this year's premiership, truly awesome!
The writing was on the wall in the first quarter when unlike last week against Essendon they missed several set shots on goal which, if they'd converted, would have seen them just 5 points down at 1/4 time.
Brisbane scoring a massive 77 points from turnovers killed St Kilda indicating poor disposal and lack of pressure.
This was a flogging that will pose some critical analysis by the coaches and football operations to make decisions on the coaching panel and playing list so that this sort of performance does not carry through to 2025.
"Where there is no hope, it is incumbent on us to invent it.."
