Stats are a garbage argument

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

[D.B.Cooper]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

[D.B.Cooper]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

Just one joke after another nothing football just comedy.

[D.B.Cooper]

Here I was thinking

That games are generally won or lost in the contest

Brad Scott lamented his teams lack of contest as the reason why they were poor

Curly knows football

[D.B.Cooper]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

Just one joke after another nothing football just comedy.

I’m a supporter who knows SFA about football, the only person on this forum I have covered for football knowledge is you!

[Scollop]

I used to love reading some of the quality in depth footy discussion on this forum. There were lots of people who provided quality and clarity

And then...there's CURLY. Self appointed Mr Football in his own mind... but he just can't communicate wtf he's on about

Are you afraid of criticising one of our players or maybe offending someone here?

Give us something CURLS. Make it specific to our fkn game yesterday or to ANY fkn player in ANY fkn game

I like this Mr Football.

Cheers

You missed a bit….Mr Football

Self appointed Mr Football in his own mind

I don’t claim to be the oracle DB like yourself. These are just observations and clearly old Scollop must be a SuperCoach player

I have personally never played super coach or any other similar fantasy football games. I know plenty of people that do. It doesn't mean they're all footy ignorant

[The Fireman]

Curly you often post free kick counts for and against

they are stats
So if they are garbage, is that what you were posting?

[Scollop]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

You prove a lot in your own mind ... don't you?

As, I said... we're not talking about suburban footy where half the participants aren't fit.

It's one task picking it up. It's another story having enough time to dispose of it. If you're credited with an AFL stat for contested possessions, you usually earn it due to the heat that comes with being hunted when you have the ball in your hands

Not every contested possession has to be a pack mark or a scrimmage or a clearance in congestion

[Killa]

What the stats do not show is the game day instruction given to players and the off ball contributions

So whilst they are interesting they are by no means the be all and the end all

For example when an opposition player is in space and looking at up field options only to be denied by the positioning of a player the positioning of that player denying an option does not accrue a statistic - but the Coaches well know

The same with positioning around the contest

And you can go on and on

[saynta]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

Just one joke after another nothing football just comedy.

Or just rubbish comments.

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

Old beaker with the comedy.

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

Curly knows football

Gives me some pocket money too.

Didn’t know they still sell records at the front gate and have pie boys with 4’n’twenty boxes walking around the ground at half time.

Curly knows football

Just one joke after another nothing football just comedy.

I’m a supporter who knows SFA about football, the only person on this forum I have covered for football knowledge is you!

Of course Beaker.

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

You prove a lot in your own mind ... don't you?

As, I said... we're not talking about suburban footy where half the participants aren't fit.

It's one task picking it up. It's another story having enough time to dispose of it. If you're credited with an AFL stat for contested possessions, you usually earn it due to the heat that comes with being hunted when you have the ball in your hands

Not every contested possession has to be a pack mark or a scrimmage or a clearance in congestion

Oh please. A contested possession is when a player gains possession in a physical contest. Actually keeping your eye on the ball knowing an opponent will put physical contact on you.

Not a loose ball when you’re ten meters clear.

[Yorkeys]

If stats tell the story how come umpires decide the Brownlow. Just go by stats. Like Coleman medal, its based on a number. And statisticians never err.
Having qualitative measurements would just blow fans minds. Even the Delphic MRO system has trouble rating transactions between players.
Maybe the stats are indicative not definitive.
Some stats may be proxy images of opponents performance e.g. Stringer has a stinker suggests Stocker did good. Heeney gets reported = Jimmy is a gun defender.

[Scollop]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

You prove a lot in your own mind ... don't you?

As, I said... we're not talking about suburban footy where half the participants aren't fit.

It's one task picking it up. It's another story having enough time to dispose of it. If you're credited with an AFL stat for contested possessions, you usually earn it due to the heat that comes with being hunted when you have the ball in your hands

Not every contested possession has to be a pack mark or a scrimmage or a clearance in congestion

Oh please. A contested possession is when a player gains possession in a physical contest. Actually keeping your eye on the ball knowing an opponent will put physical contact on you.

Not a loose ball when you’re ten meters clear.

You're talking through your arse if you think players are earning contested possessions by being 10m clear

Be realistic.

[CURLY]

Once you pick up a loose ground ball, it's a contested possession and rightly so.

You actually have possession of a 'contested' footy without competing against someone to win the ball, but getting it on your boot and disposing of it is another thing.

There's heat, there's speed on the game, and you only have a split second to make a decision on what to do with it.

Just to prove my point old Scollop shows us all exactly what’s wrong with the term contested possession

You prove a lot in your own mind ... don't you?

As, I said... we're not talking about suburban footy where half the participants aren't fit.

It's one task picking it up. It's another story having enough time to dispose of it. If you're credited with an AFL stat for contested possessions, you usually earn it due to the heat that comes with being hunted when you have the ball in your hands

Not every contested possession has to be a pack mark or a scrimmage or a clearance in congestion

Oh please. A contested possession is when a player gains possession in a physical contest. Actually keeping your eye on the ball knowing an opponent will put physical contact on you.

Not a loose ball when you’re ten meters clear.

You're talking through your arse if you think players are earning contested possessions by being 10m clear

Be realistic.

A loose ball get under no real pressure is a contested possession. You said it yourself.
It simply cannot be and it’s ridiculous that it’s counted.

[takeaway]

I can understand what Curly is getting at.
Stats are over rated, overdone and unclear, and often give a false impression.
I reckon there would be many occasions where you could pick certain stats to make a point and then cherry pick others to reverse the argument.

[The_Dud]

Bit of an own-goal this thread

[CURLY]

I can understand what Curly is getting at.
Stats are over rated, overdone and unclear, and often give a false impression.
I reckon there would be many occasions where you could pick certain stats to make a point and then cherry pick others to reverse the argument.

Look at score involvements a one two handball at HB can lead to you getting credited with a score involvement

[CURLY]

Bit of an own-goal this thread

This is over your head. Stick to flag waving.

[The_Dud]

Bit of an own-goal this thread

This is over your head. Stick to flag waving.

Maybe if you could manage a thought longer than one sentence this thread wouldn’t have turned in to everyone taking the piss out of you

[CURLY]

Bit of an own-goal this thread

This is over your head. Stick to flag waving.

Maybe if you could manage a thought longer than one sentence this thread wouldn’t have turned in to everyone taking the piss out of you

Everyone hey? Your clown mate The Buzzard DB and Fantasy Foitball follower Scollop. Equals everyone

[Saint 58]

Stats can be part of the argument
Definitely don't tell the whole story

Commentators are obsessed with Inside 50's
Teams can be obsessed with getting the ball inside 50

Occasionally someone kicks a goal from outside 50 where it's far easier to hit up a player
I wish they would get rid of the 50m line
I think more goals would be scored, there would definitely be more shots on goal