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Re: Team vs Essendon

Post: # 2071843Post Yorkeys »

If true, be interesting to see how we go without Josh. Badly, I imagine.
Wilkie Howard Webster
Bonner Battle Stocker
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Re: Team vs Essendon

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In Caminiti
Out Henry

Emerg Heath, McLennan, Dow

No sign of Arie though...
I looked at the review of the Zebs' narrow win,
and Arie wasn't there at all. Was he emerg for our game so couldn't play in the babypoo?


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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WellardSaint wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2024 7:34pm In Caminiti
Out Henry

Emerg Heath, McLennan, Dow

No sign of Arie though...
I looked at the review of the Zebs' narrow win,
and Arie wasn't there at all. Was he emerg for our game so couldn't play in the babypoo?
Yes he was.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Strange
Not like for like

Caminiti playing well enough to come straight in after injury?

I’d have gone Dow


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Taller. Sub?


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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B.M wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2024 8:18pm Strange
Not like for like

Caminiti playing well enough to come straight in after injury?

I’d have gone Dow
Caminiti back into the forward line releasing Mason Wood to play further up the ground. Garcia will be sub again.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Caminiti may go to defence to assist Dougs, Cal n Josh- so they can cover Stringer n Draper.

You watch Stringer carefully.
He starts at each centre bounce, then runs to CHF.
Not sure but maybe Caminiti runs with him.
I think Caminiti is a bit taller than Josh


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Last time, their Nic Martin got 44 touches at halfback.

Riley Bonner got 31 touches, 960 m gained, but 17 turnovers- highest in AFL since 2012. WTF
I hope he's instructed to kick no further than 20m


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Henry out and a tall comes in (?!) Doesn't make sense. Especially when we have Membrey, Owens and Sharman forward...plus we have Wilkie, Battle and Howard down back.

I think Howard takes Peter Wright and Wilkie and Battle take Langford and Stringer.

I'm tipping a late withdrawal. Possibly Dow comes in. Wilkie or Battle out? Hope it's not Marshall


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 12:58am Last time, their Nic Martin got 44 touches at halfback.

Riley Bonner got 31 touches, 960 m gained, but 17 turnovers- highest in AFL since 2012. WTF
I hope he's instructed to kick no further than 20m
Rather a long turn over than a short one


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 4:42am Henry out and a tall comes in (?!) Doesn't make sense. Especially when we have Membrey, Owens and Sharman forward...plus we have Wilkie, Battle and Howard down back.

I think Howard takes Peter Wright and Wilkie and Battle take Langford and Stringer.

I'm tipping a late withdrawal. Possibly Dow comes in. Wilkie or Battle out? Hope it's not Marshall

We're not an especially tall side.

In fact our average height is equal second shortest for the round- only the Suns have named a shorter side.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 10:15am Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?
I was talking about structure. Forget about the personal broad based rubbish. Let’s be specific here.

It seems odd bringing in Caminiti if he’s not easily assigned a role. What role would you give him?

People are saying that Caminiti will play forward, but I think Ross has spoken about him as a defender. Also Ross Lyon spoke this week proclaiming Owens as a forward. If we assume that Membrey and Sharman are also in the forward line (based on their form in last weeks game) where does that leave Caminiti to play?

If Wilkie, Battle and Howard are fit and playing where would you play Caminiti? Would you prefer that Caminiti takes Peter Wright and one of Battle or Howard floats around as the spare?

Don’t forget that Essendon have dropped Goldie so Marshall doesn’t need as much support in the ruck either.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 12:49am Caminiti may go to defence to assist Dougs, Cal n Josh- so they can cover Stringer n Draper.

You watch Stringer carefully.
He starts at each centre bounce, then runs to CHF.
Not sure but maybe Caminiti runs with him.
I think Caminiti is a bit taller than Josh
Yep...196cm against 193cm.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Odd.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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It's possible that Ryan Byrnes will take up some of Liam Henry's role at stoppages and in attack, leaving Mason Woods to play wing and Caminiti forward.

It will be a good test for Ronnie as he's been playing as well as he ever has since breaking back into the firsts - I hope he continues to improve as that will help to alleviate the team's midfield problems with Brad Crouch's future in serious doubt.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 2:16pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 10:15am Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?
I was talking about structure. Forget about the personal broad based rubbish. Let’s be specific here.

It seems odd bringing in Caminiti if he’s not easily assigned a role. What role would you give him?

People are saying that Caminiti will play forward, but I think Ross has spoken about him as a defender. Also Ross Lyon spoke this week proclaiming Owens as a forward. If we assume that Membrey and Sharman are also in the forward line (based on their form in last weeks game) where does that leave Caminiti to play?

If Wilkie, Battle and Howard are fit and playing where would you play Caminiti? Would you prefer that Caminiti takes Peter Wright and one of Battle or Howard floats around as the spare?

Don’t forget that Essendon have dropped Goldie so Marshall doesn’t need as much support in the ruck either.
Dropped gold but brought in Wright.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Personally felt we were a KPP short last week.

If he plays forward sharman gets a smaller defender
If he plays back Battle gets a smaller forward

Either way it benefits us.

It hurts us in the middle of the ground and for pace. Guess we're backing in the rest of the mids.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:47pm
Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 2:16pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 10:15am Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?
I was talking about structure. Forget about the personal broad based rubbish. Let’s be specific here.

It seems odd bringing in Caminiti if he’s not easily assigned a role. What role would you give him?

People are saying that Caminiti will play forward, but I think Ross has spoken about him as a defender. Also Ross Lyon spoke this week proclaiming Owens as a forward. If we assume that Membrey and Sharman are also in the forward line (based on their form in last weeks game) where does that leave Caminiti to play?

If Wilkie, Battle and Howard are fit and playing where would you play Caminiti? Would you prefer that Caminiti takes Peter Wright and one of Battle or Howard floats around as the spare?

Don’t forget that Essendon have dropped Goldie so Marshall doesn’t need as much support in the ruck either.
Dropped gold but brought in Wright.
You should hold gold. ASX Gold miners and gold is in favour at the moment.

One of the directors of a company called Savannah Goldfields is Peter Wright.

See what I did there...unlike you - I actually gave you info you didn't know.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:49pm Personally felt we were a KPP short last week.

If he plays forward sharman gets a smaller defender
If he plays back Battle gets a smaller forward

Either way it benefits us.

It hurts us in the middle of the ground and for pace. Guess we're backing in the rest of the mids.
That is yet to be determined

I hope Dow is a late inclusion


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Don’t like 4 tall forwards

Or 4 tall defenders

Ball spends 75% of the time on the deck - need ground level pressure


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:59pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:47pm
Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 2:16pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 10:15am Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?
I was talking about structure. Forget about the personal broad based rubbish. Let’s be specific here.

It seems odd bringing in Caminiti if he’s not easily assigned a role. What role would you give him?

People are saying that Caminiti will play forward, but I think Ross has spoken about him as a defender. Also Ross Lyon spoke this week proclaiming Owens as a forward. If we assume that Membrey and Sharman are also in the forward line (based on their form in last weeks game) where does that leave Caminiti to play?

If Wilkie, Battle and Howard are fit and playing where would you play Caminiti? Would you prefer that Caminiti takes Peter Wright and one of Battle or Howard floats around as the spare?

Don’t forget that Essendon have dropped Goldie so Marshall doesn’t need as much support in the ruck either.
Dropped gold but brought in Wright.
You should hold gold. ASX Gold miners and gold is in favour at the moment.

One of the directors of a company called Savannah Goldfields is Peter Wright.

See what I did there...unlike you - I actually gave you info you didn't know.
Could well be your most valuable contribution to this forum to date. Well done.
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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Our midfield is B grade and that's where we will lose it unfortunately. We are poor at ground level contested balls, and slow with Clark and Steele in there. I fear the Essendons will run us off our feet.


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Re: Team vs Essendon

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Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:59pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 6:47pm
Scollop wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 2:16pm
nostalgicsaint wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2024 10:15am Also which is it.

Lyon is too rigid with selection and like for like?

Or he makes no sense?
I was talking about structure. Forget about the personal broad based rubbish. Let’s be specific here.

It seems odd bringing in Caminiti if he’s not easily assigned a role. What role would you give him?

People are saying that Caminiti will play forward, but I think Ross has spoken about him as a defender. Also Ross Lyon spoke this week proclaiming Owens as a forward. If we assume that Membrey and Sharman are also in the forward line (based on their form in last weeks game) where does that leave Caminiti to play?

If Wilkie, Battle and Howard are fit and playing where would you play Caminiti? Would you prefer that Caminiti takes Peter Wright and one of Battle or Howard floats around as the spare?

Don’t forget that Essendon have dropped Goldie so Marshall doesn’t need as much support in the ruck either.
Dropped gold but brought in Wright.
You should hold gold. ASX Gold miners and gold is in favour at the moment.

One of the directors of a company called Savannah Goldfields is Peter Wright.

See what I did there...unlike you - I actually gave you info you didn't know.
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Re: Team vs Essendon

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saynta wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2024 4:54pm
BadRossco wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2024 1:31pm Should go tall against injectors, out Henry, Bonner and Burnes, in Heath, Keeler and Dow (sub) but not likely to happen.
Who the f#&k is Burnes? No one on saints lists by that name.

I agree with your ins though.
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