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Mitch Owens

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I look at him, and don't see the growth that I predicted. Did I set my expectations too high? Did he bulk up too much? or is he being played out of position? He was recruited as a utility, whatever that really means. Is he a midfielder, a 2nd ruck, a forward or the intercepting defender that replaces Battle?

I would love to see him start in the middle, and just get told to hunt the footy and get his hands on it first.

What do you think? How do we get the best out of him?


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Very difficult conditions for forwards - the game revolving around the ruck contest and the ball being pushed forward from those contests, so territory such that any fortuitous free kick or disposal error results in a shot on goal

The number of Adelaide mids receiving votes was instructive

To Owens, his numbers were down but that is not to say he was not contesting, which he did

Perhaps the problem with him in the midfield rotation is a combination of the need for a contesting player forward and the presence of Steele who, to me, is like for like


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Needs to be dropped for a few games and see if he can win back selection for the last couple of games. Not sure he is a mid just yet.


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Rubyjo wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:17pm Needs to be dropped for a few games
Seems we had about a third of the team that didn't play well?

Who else would you drop?


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Re: Mitch Owens

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He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward.

I'm looking forward to seeing how he goes in a dry forward line with Max out and playing second fiddle to my man Coops.


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Re: Mitch Owens

Post: # 2070747Post bobmurray »

The way Owens has been playing, if he was dropped and Allison was given a game, it probably wouldn't make much difference. :lol: :lol:


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Sharman to me is akin to Battle down the other end

They are both undersized for key positions

As is Owens


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?


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Re: Mitch Owens

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bobmurray wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:46pm The way Owens has been playing, if he was dropped and Allison was given a game, it probably wouldn't make much difference. :lol: :lol:
Allison won't ever play AFL


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
Oh man a pronouns joke. So funny. So funny I almost forgot about players being tried in new positions or even out of position.

And in response to a good post refuting your point too, you really got him.


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
Where - What - Why!

Like most of our player - they look like they identify as confused


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Re: Mitch Owens

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With Hill and Wilson on the wings, Wood could play as the third tall alongside Membrey and Sharman.

That allows Owens to have a go in the middle. Take the risk on Wood not being able to help defend, but the team being more potent in offense.

We're out of the finals race. We should be experimenting as most teams in rebuild need to do

Wood could easily play out his career as the third tall


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Wilson should not hold his spot


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Re: Mitch Owens

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B.M wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 10:04pm Wilson should not hold his spot
Fair enough.

Long term, you'd agree the wing is Darcy's

Hill and Byrnes this week


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:58pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
Where - What - Why!

Like most of our player - they look like they identify as confused
They are born as defenders but they grow up knowing they are goal kickers and don't know how to act around other goal kickers until they start secretly attending opposition matches to watch teams who score freely. At these matches they feel like they can be themselves without anyone judging them, they feel safe and are happy to openly admit they are goal kickers.

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Re: Mitch Owens

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Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 10:22pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:58pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
Where - What - Why!

Like most of our player - they look like they identify as confused
They are born as defenders but they grow up knowing they are goal kickers and don't know how to act around other goal kickers until they start secretly attending opposition matches to watch teams who score freely. At these matches they feel like they can be themselves without anyone judging them, they feel safe and are happy to openly admit they are goal kickers.

Goal Rights Matter
You need a holiday

I hear Cairns is nice this time of year :wink:


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Killa wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:56pm Sharman to me is akin to Battle down the other end

They are both undersized for key positions

As is Owens
They are about the same height as Nick Riewoldt, but, it's a different era where Key Position Players are around 200cm,
except for Steven May, who is about the same height as Sharman and Battle. :shock:


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Owens is certainly not impacting games in the way I had been expecting this year, but that may be due to the coaches instructing him to play a particular role. I wouldn't think that he needs to be sent back to the seconds, but with Phillipou out he could well play a tall midfield role at the contests, which the Pou was doing quite well since his return to the seniors.


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Re: Mitch Owens

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But, how do Sharman, Battle and May compare on weight

So May is able to command space with his bulk

How would Sharman go on May?


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Sanctorum wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2024 5:39pm Owens is certainly not impacting games in the way I had been expecting this year, but that may be due to the coaches instructing him to play a particular role. I wouldn't think that he needs to be sent back to the seconds, but with Phillipou out he could well play a tall midfield role at the contests, which the Pou was doing quite well since his return to the seniors.
Mitch is out of form. He is getting out-positioned in forward contests, and for a strong bodied forward, that's not on- just not getting enough of the footy. Lyon might be trying to get him to play various roles, but it's not working, so needs a rest in the VFL to work on a few aspects of his contested game. A big problem this season is that the forwards are just not getting enough of the footy in contests.


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Sanctorum wrote: Wed 17 Jul 2024 5:39pm with Phillipou out he (Owens) could well play a tall midfield role at the contests, which the Pou was doing quite well since his return to the seniors.
I’d love to see that, but I’m not holding my breath


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Re: Mitch Owens

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May is a monster

He is 100kg

Similar to Sam Collins at GC


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
If the coaches don’t play you where you think you should be playing…you could be gettable by other clubs


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Re: Mitch Owens

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Scollop wrote: Thu 18 Jul 2024 12:17pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:46pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 9:13pm
Vortex wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 8:24pm He's a forward, was recruited to be a forward
Are you sure?

I thought he was recruited as a ruckman

Weird….in his U/18’s year they were describing him as “Sandringham Dragons onballer” in this article below

https://www.zerohanger.com/saints-set-f ... ent-93276/

By the way…Unpluggered podcast with Ken Sheldon on that link
If you identify as a mid but the coaches play you in the forward line what should your pro nouns be?
If the coaches don’t play you where you think you should be playing…you could be gettable by other clubs
Is “gettable” a pronoun or just the status on your social media footprint?

I like “gettable”, it kind of suggests you are cheeky yet approachable.


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