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[sks023]

Spanish player took the piss out off the English player Saka this morning in the European cup final, by making the cry-baby gesture with his hands

Three years ago Saka missed a vital penalty in the final that sealed England's fate and left Saka inconsolable balling he's eyes out
Professional athletes never miss a opportunity

[Sainter_Dad]

He will get at least 7 - Allegedly used the word at least 10 times to 3 different players

[CURLY]

He will get at least 7 - Allegedly used the word at least 10 times to 3 different players

Sounds odd that you’d just pick a word and use it over and over.

[St Dave]

He will get at least 7 - Allegedly used the word at least 10 times to 3 different players

Sounds odd that you’d just pick a word and use it over and over.

Yeah if that turns out to be true it is really dumb. Just when there was talk of a new contract. Almost sounds intentionally self destructive.

And where were the on field leaders telling him to pull his head in? For the club with the pride game it is a really bad look.

[sks023]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

[CURLY]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It’s about jumping on board and deciding who should be offended.

Then being offended on their behalf. Also being offended by people that aren’t offended.

[WellardSaint]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It's called 'Virtue Signalling'

[sks023]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It’s about jumping on board and deciding who should be offended.

Then being offended on their behalf. Also being offended by people that aren’t offended.

Clear as mud

[sks023]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It's called 'Virtue Signalling'

I'm to old for this s***,

[WellardSaint]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It's called 'Virtue Signalling'

I'm too old for this s***,

Virtue signalling.
An example of this is someone who buys a Tesla and proudly declares they want to save the planet.
Ignoring the 500 tons of mining required to make the batteries, the toxic lithium ponds, and the tiny African children excavating cobalt with bare hands and zero PPE...(it's incredibly poisonous)

[sks023]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

It's called 'Virtue Signalling'

I'm too old for this s***,

Virtue signalling.
An example of this is someone who buys a Tesla and proudly declares they want to save the planet.
Ignoring the 500 tons of mining required to make the batteries, the toxic lithium ponds, and the tiny African children excavating cobalt with bare hands and zero PPE...(it's incredibly poisonous)

A - ha

[Yorkeys]

Classification:
intentional, low impact, below the belt =1 match for each event. Concurrent penalties. Weightings
Besmerching AFL brand x 3. Dumbness x 2. Virtue signalling loading 2. Total 8 weeks. Early apology- 2. Sentence going over 2 seasons unreasonable for youth offender. Released into the care of the Club.

[Jacks Back]

I don't know what's happened to this world when saying a word (or 10) gets you as many weeks as Webster got for his hit on Simpson. FMD

[Yorkeys]

I don't know what's happened to this world when saying a word (or 10) gets you as many weeks as Webster got for his hit on Simpson. FMD

You know what's happened. It just can't be articulated without consequences.

[WellardSaint]

Classification:
intentional, low impact, below the belt =1 match for each event. Concurrent penalties. Weightings
Besmerching AFL brand x 3. Dumbness x 2. Virtue signalling loading 2. Total 8 weeks. Early apology- 2. Sentence going over 2 seasons unreasonable for youth offender. Released into the care of the Club.

Hopefully The Kremlin offers him Community Service, 15 weekends working behind the bar at The Spread-Eagle Hotel

[St Dave]

I really didn't want to post on this any more, but can someone answer me is it the word which is offensive or who it's directed to?

If this is a genuine question and you are actually looking to learn/understand this is probably not the forum to do it judging by the other responses to this post. I will try to answer genuinely though because you never know who else might be reading. And I dont pretend to have all the answers, just trying to pass on what I know (and happy to be corrected if people know better, we are all learning).

It is a bit of both, but in addition to who it is directed to it is also who is around to hear it. Eg, if you are joking around with mates in a private setting you are probably going to get away with more than you would in public when people you aren't familiar with are also in earshot.

The words you choose to use say a lot about who you are as a person and the values you hold. If you are comfortable using homophobic language it is reasonable for any people hearing that to believe that you think of those types of people as worthy of that contempt. As an example, when I was a stupid high schooler we used to say everything was 'gay' as equivalent to saying something was 's***'. For people that aren't gay, that didn't mean anything, they weren't gay so they weren't really s***. But for friends struggling with their sexuality it meant more than me just saying they were like s***, it meant if I ever found out I might treat them like that s*** more explicitly, it meant that they couldn't trust me and had to be on edge so as to not slip up and have me potentially find out. And worst of all it meant that maybe they might believe me and think there was a part of them that was s*** and could never not be s***.

If you are just around friends and they are part of that minority group and they know you dont really believe it and are all comfortable (genuinely comfortable, not dont want to rock the boat comfortable) then go for your life. But if your son or neighbour or team mate hears you say it, and they are in that minority group (or just have empathy for people who are) you best believe it will hurt them and change how they think of you.

[St Dave]

A lot of people showing they have never been impacted by some of the serious consequences that these kinds of actions can lead to. I dont know anyone who took serious action because they got tackled too hard.

[sks023]

A lot of people showing they have never been impacted by some of the serious consequences that these kinds of actions can lead to. I dont know anyone who took serious action because they got tackled too hard.

II would think many here would have been vilified in some form ,but I get your point
Sometimes people bring s*** on themselves though

[Scollop]

I want to drive at 150km per hour where it says 110 is the speed limit. I want to drive at 80km/hr where it says 60 is the speed limit.

I used to do it a lot, back when I first got my licence.

For very good reasons, there are laws (and technology) which prohibit me from doing what I used to get away with in the 1980's.

Not sure if it's a good comparison, but the point is, whether you agree with it or not, there are laws which prohibit vilification on the grounds of religion or race or sexual preference.

My personal experience changed my views on same sex relationships

I worked with gay people and we also have family (both male and female) who are gay.

If you don't understand the ramifications of using certain language against people stiff cheddar. That's the law. Be prepared for the consequences.

The AFL and other workplaces are basically applying an extra layer to existing State and Federal laws with their own code of conduct.

[sks023]

We have Laws around drug taking but the AFL doesn't seem to take that to seriously

So I'm being vilified and called a homophobic because I don't agree with a certain preference or lifestyle,

I'm going to bed

[Scollop]

Obviously the AFL aren't consistent

No revelation there

[sks023]

Using Jesus name as a swear word is offensive to Christians but nobody gives a s***

The f****** hypocrisy

Now I'm going to bed

[St Dave]

We have Laws around drug taking but the AFL doesn't seem to take that to seriously

So I'm being vilified and called a homophobic because I don't agree with a certain preference or lifestyle,

I'm going to bed

I don't know enough about the drug issue, but could only guess that drugs are more of a personal issue, the primary person you are hurting is yourself (at least up to a point). For abuse the action is intended to harm others so the punishment needs to be different.

I hope you didn't feel I was calling you homophobic. We all have capacity for empathy, so the best thing you can do is try to put yourself in others shoes and try to understand them. If you can't do that, the easiest thing you can do is just try to let go of that dislike/discomfort. You will probably be happier overall and no-one will mistake you for homophobic if you let it go past without comment.

[Scollop]

People are dying because they worked in industry that made pretty engineered stone

People are dying who live next door to factories that make PFAS chemicals

People are getting killed all over the world in war

Christians were largely responsible for the genocide of many indigenous people worldwide

People who went about their own private business were targeted and bashed and in many cases killed because they were gay. A lot of those doing the bashing and killing were Christian.

The hypocrisy

[sks023]

I was using Christians as a example and you took the opportunity to attack them

Have I attacked the gay community in any way ?
And the medal for the hypocrit bigot goes to. Scollop