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Post: # 2070642Post older saint »

He is also only 19 (?) and plenty of good footballers were dickheads at 19 .
I wouldn't know him if i tripped over him however clearly the recruiters rated him.
We continually rip ( correctly ) not drafting Petracca because he was arrogant, yet then question a first year player's attitude and if we made an error. Stevie J was a loose cannon for many years.

He has made a mistake, apologize and learn , those at the club can determine if he is the next player to turn things around or not and make calls on that . Not like he is a Tarryn Thomas.


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ace wrote: Fri 12 Jul 2024 7:42pm Nothing that a super model girl friend couldn't cure.
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Post: # 2070649Post bigcarl »

As Lance has Indigenous heritage, I wonder if this was in response to a vile racial slur?


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Long bow

Just a young kid making mistakes


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Its an odd thing sport...you can sledge soneone in todays sport culture but with boundaries.

Have a crack at a bloke's mrs/ms...no dramas; have a crack at a blokes mr/husband...big dramas.

Call a straight guy a c@cksucker, no dramas, call a gay guy a c@cksucker...big troubles.

I've heard unreal comments on field in every sport.

I've been called alot. I dont mind a 'black b@stard' or 2 my way as long as the giver is happy to receive a 'white c@nt' or 2 from me. End of game we shake hands and off we go, no hatred intended.

But there is a difference between that and racial villification. Everyone involved knows it.

My concern is that Lance learns when it comes go LGBQTI+ there is NO SLEDGING. None. Can't do it. Cant argue why or it isnt fair etc etc. Just do not. If a person identifies, don't sledge about anything, their dog is fat, great. Their mummy is dimwitted, move along. Their car is slow, dont even look twice. Say nada. This doesnt apply to every gay person, I have a mate who will wear you out with sledges at your own bbq. Lol. He loves the argy bargy.
But when the AFL says any sledge towards another gay player reaps the whirlwind...taketh notice.

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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2070662Post StPeter »

There have been enough warnings and suspensions this year to be aware of the penalties regarding making homophobic slurs.

The report says multiple comments.

Not good enough and he deserves what is coming.


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Hopefully the clip around the ears he desperately needs


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Seems like he needs a big clip.


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Devilhead wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:44pm Hopefully the clip around the ears he desperately needs
Hopefully it is just a clip
Clarkson's a full blown adult who's words were captured on the mic .. no suspension
If they throw the book at this kid it will be a injustice


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sks023 wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:52pm
Devilhead wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:44pm Hopefully the clip around the ears he desperately needs
Hopefully it is just a clip
Clarkson's a full blown adult who's words were captured on the mic .. no suspension
If they throw the book at this kid it will be a injustice
It's ridiculous given some of the suspensions given out this season. Clarkson is definitely a moron.


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Post: # 2070669Post Life Long Saint »

magnifisaint wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 5:04pm Clarkson is definitely a moron.
You spelled bully wrong!


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magnifisaint wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 5:04pm
sks023 wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:52pm
Devilhead wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:44pm Hopefully the clip around the ears he desperately needs
Hopefully it is just a clip
Clarkson's a full blown adult who's words were captured on the mic .. no suspension
If they throw the book at this kid it will be a injustice
It's ridiculous given some of the suspensions given out this season. Clarkson is definitely a moron.
And probably a unrepentant moron ,but smart enough to keep his mouth shut in the future


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Re: Lance Collard

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sks023 wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 5:11pm
magnifisaint wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 5:04pm
sks023 wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:52pm
Devilhead wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 4:44pm Hopefully the clip around the ears he desperately needs
Hopefully it is just a clip
Clarkson's a full blown adult who's words were captured on the mic .. no suspension
If they throw the book at this kid it will be a injustice
It's ridiculous given some of the suspensions given out this season. Clarkson is definitely a moron.
And probably a unrepentant moron ,but smart enough to keep his mouth shut in the future
I'm not sure about that. He is definitely the golden child and a sniper. Just ask Ian Aitken.


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He will cop 6+ weeks I think. While it might seem very harsh to some, the AFL have clearly been ramping up the punishment over the the previous instances this year. Eventually it will be stamped out of the game and the game will be better for it


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If the allegations are correct I can except he will cop a suspension, but it needs to be comparable to what's gone before
My fear is the afl is going to bend him over and make a example of him
What's worse is I can see our own supporters having no problem throwing him under the bus


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Post: # 2070680Post SaintWiki »

I would have hoped the club would have drummed anti homophobia, misogynist and racism into our players - but it appears to be an oversight. The club or supporters playing it down can cost the club respect and indeed memberships and create unnecessary distractions to the players.


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Re: Lance Collard

Post: # 2070681Post skeptic »

I’m really shocked that a heavy suspension is on the table

No argument he did the wrong thing but geeez, head up, apology, fine, enrol in whatever training and cop your week or 2 I’d have thought


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Us against them mentality is what this club needs
Nobody respects pushovers
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Post: # 2070683Post St Dave »

skeptic wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 6:01pm I’m really shocked that a heavy suspension is on the table

No argument he did the wrong thing but geeez, head up, apology, fine, enrol in whatever training and cop your week or 2 I’d have thought
It does seem harsh, but so far this year the first instance was a fine, the second 3 weeks, the third 5 weeks, so I imagine this is more than that, especially given that it was apparently multiple instances.

Given the clubs involvement in the pride game I wouldn't be surprised if the club comes out with additional sanctions if the AFL punishment seems soft.


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Re: Lance Collard

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I was always taught that whilst sticks and stones might break bones, words will never hurt. Seems that's not the case in this woke world. I agree with skeptic. I can only hope that the young man was reacting to racist slurs.


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Post: # 2070687Post D.B.Cooper »

Really long bow here, suggesting, hoping, pontificating that he may be the victim of racial slurs and that’s why he allegedly made the homophobic comments.

Until there is more information as to any provocation, and or an admission of guilt the above is speculation at very, very best.


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Re: Lance Collard

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 6:37pm Really long bow here, suggesting, hoping, pontificating that he may be the victim of racial slurs and that’s why he allegedly made the homophobic comments.

Until there is more information as to any provocation, and or an admission of guilt the above is speculation at very, very best.
Agreed. And even if so… 2 wrongs don’t make a right


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19 year old says a bad word yep let’s bury him.


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Post: # 2070696Post saynta »

D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 6:37pm Really long bow here, suggesting, hoping, pontificating that he may be the victim of racial slurs and that’s why he allegedly made the homophobic comments.

Until there is more information as to any provocation, and or an admission of guilt the above is speculation at very, very best.
And??? Is speculation banned on this forum. Geez I better apologise now. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Do you even know what pontificating means? :roll:


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skeptic wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 6:43pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 15 Jul 2024 6:37pm Really long bow here, suggesting, hoping, pontificating that he may be the victim of racial slurs and that’s why he allegedly made the homophobic comments.

Until there is more information as to any provocation, and or an admission of guilt the above is speculation at very, very best.
Agreed. And even if so… 2 wrongs don’t make a right
You mean two Wong's don't make it white .....O shut up I don't care......just a joke


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