Coaches votes Round 17 vs Swans

[Scollop]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

[CURLY]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

Steele ran with Heeney the majority of his mid field time. This point was also raised by Fox at half time.

[St Dave]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

[CURLY]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

[Scollop]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

Steele ran with Heeney the majority of his mid field time. This point was also raised by Fox at half time.

That's false and inaccurate.

Steele lined up on Heeney several times at centre bounces and at stoppages around the ground. After that they went head to head and they didn't closely check our mids and we didn't closely check theirs

Fox were probably expecting a Ross Lyon coached squad to be putting on hard tags, but that's not what happened.

[CURLY]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

Steele ran with Heeney the majority of his mid field time. This point was also raised by Fox at half time.

That's false and inaccurate.

Steele lined up on Heeney several times at centre bounces and at stoppages around the ground. After that they went head to head and they didn't closely check our mids and we didn't closely check theirs

Fox were probably expecting a Ross Lyon coached squad to be putting on hard tags, but that's not what happened.

That's not false at all. Dermott speaks about the match up.

By the way nice change of goals posts.

[Scollop]

Windhager attended zero centre bounces. I think he plays better when he has a reference point and he has s specific role.

We probably should have had Windhager putting on a hard tag on Warner.

Windy didn't impact for us at all in the first half of footy, where as Warner was very influential.

[Scollop]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

Steele ran with Heeney the majority of his mid field time. This point was also raised by Fox at half time.

That's false and inaccurate.

Steele lined up on Heeney several times at centre bounces and at stoppages around the ground. After that they went head to head and they didn't closely check our mids and we didn't closely check theirs

Fox were probably expecting a Ross Lyon coached squad to be putting on hard tags, but that's not what happened.

That's not false at all. Dermott speaks about the match up.

By the way nice change of goals posts.

The match up? What match up? Dermott is living in the past. This isn't 1990. They weren't lined up versus each other for the day or even for a whole quarter.

Watch the whole game again because I 'm not engaging with someone who says "Fox said this" and "Dermott said that". You are plainly wrong!!

As I said, Steele didn't run with anyone in particular. He took Heeney at stoppages but he also lined up on Rowbottom, and on Gulden, and others at stoppages including Papley

Heeney was ineffective as a mid. He only got 2 clearances for the day. Steele generally quelled his influence as did the other boys in the middle.

Speaking of forwards like Papley... that's where Heeney isn't the type of mid that's easily going to be a target for a tagging role. When Heeney is playing as a forward, Webster and others had the job

[CURLY]

Inaccurate as always from CURLY

Steele had Heeney at times, but so did Clark, so did Sinclair

Sinclair attended 21 centre bounces - more than Clark and more than Pou and more than Windy.

I was really pleased that most of our mids who attended centre bounce (apart from Windhager) went hunting the footy and they were trusted to take on the Sydney mids head to head.

Steele ran with Heeney the majority of his mid field time. This point was also raised by Fox at half time.

That's false and inaccurate.

Steele lined up on Heeney several times at centre bounces and at stoppages around the ground. After that they went head to head and they didn't closely check our mids and we didn't closely check theirs

Fox were probably expecting a Ross Lyon coached squad to be putting on hard tags, but that's not what happened.

That's not false at all. Dermott speaks about the match up.

By the way nice change of goals posts.

The match up? What match up? Dermott is living in the past. This isn't 1990

Watch the whole game again because I 'm not engaging with someone who says "Fox said this" or " Dermott said that". You are plainly wrong!!

As I said, Steele didn't run with anyone in particular. He took Heeney at stoppages but he also lined up on Rowbottom, and on Gulden, and others at stoppages including Papley

Heeney was ineffective as a mid. He only got 2 clearances for the day.

Speaking of forwards like Papley... that's where Heeney isn't the type of mid that's easily going to be a target for a tagging role. When Heeney is playing as a forward, Webster and others had the job

No one is saying tagged or ran with the match up was Steele v Heeney. The clowns at FOX Sport are watching the same game and while often sprout garbage I'm sure a thing like a match as obvious as that can be mentioned.

Wilkie took Heeney in a crucial contest after Webster got clouted and Battle infringed and then was caught in a one on one with a loose ball.

[Scollop]

What this game highlighted was that it's a huge risk going head to head with midfields the calibre of Sydney's....BUT..

In a way it cost us a flurry of late goals in the second quarter due to Warner getting off the chain, but we learnt from that and it was a team effort from the midfielders. They supported each other ..you have to be prepared to lose a game in order to get a win

In the 3rd quarter when we had a purple patch and dominated for a while I saw Phillipou going to Heeney several times at centre bounce. His defensive game was equally as good as his offense.

Sinclair took Warner and Gulden at centre bounce and Steele focussed on Rowbottom. Steele probably matched up on Rowbottom as much as he did on Heeney.

This is the only way that our mids are going to improve. They have to take teams on head to head if they want to beat the best

[St Dave]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

[Scollop]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

That's not going to happen. Once CURLY says something he won't back down even if multiple posters disagree with him. He'll double down on his original thinking rather than concede or at least say he could be wrong

Good post by the way. It's great to see the passion of Saints fans who can't get enough of watching the replay of our boys. It was a really good win, which should hopefully give them enough confidence to be competitive against Adelaide and go for the win.

I just backed us for a win between 1-24. It's paying $4.10. Head to head we're 2.72 on Sportsbet

[CURLY]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

[Scollop]

What'd I tell you. He won't back down

Much less frustrating talking to a brick wall

[CURLY]

What'd I tell you. He won't back down

Much less frustrating talking to a brick wall

So you're right because what you said you are? You want to be? Or you just like the sense of it?

[Scollop]

Go and watch the replay if you think everyone is wrong and you're right.

[CURLY]

Go and watch the replay if you think everyone is wrong and you're right.

Everyone meaning you.

[St Dave]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

That's not going to happen. Once CURLY says something he won't back down even if multiple posters disagree with him. He'll double down on his original thinking rather than concede or at least say he could be wrong

Good post by the way. It's great to see the passion of Saints fans who can't get enough of watching the replay of our boys. It was a really good win, which should hopefully give them enough confidence to be competitive against Adelaide and go for the win.

I just backed us for a win between 1-24. It's paying $4.10. Head to head we're 2.72 on Sportsbet

Thanks. We ended up a bit lucky with how Sydney missed some shots, but the fight the boys put up to come back from runs of goals to end the second and third quarters was the kind of mature white of team performance I have been wanting to see all year. Like you say, now we just have to do that every week

[St Dave]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

In a reply to a post commending Pous performance on two gun mids you said 4 words 'Untrue Steele had Heeney'.

I have to commend that now, on being asked to back up that statement with evidence, you seem to have softened on that absolute stance, but are you now saying you can't do that because Heeney and Steele were never on the ground at the same time? Or maybe that when Heeney and Steele were on the ground at the same time Heeney was playing forward?

Just acknowledge that Pou (and the rest of the midfield) did a great job head to head with a top midfield. I have been wanting to see the coaches do something exciting with the midfield all year and they finally do, backing in the whole rotation to go head to head, so it is reductive (and wrong as pointed out) to attribute it all to one player.

[CURLY]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

In a reply to a post commending Pous performance on two gun mids you said 4 words 'Untrue Steele had Heeney'.

I have to commend that now, on being asked to back up that statement with evidence, you seem to have softened on that absolute stance, but are you now saying you can't do that because Heeney and Steele were never on the ground at the same time? Or maybe that when Heeney and Steele were on the ground at the same time Heeney was playing forward?

Just acknowledge that Pou (and the rest of the midfield) did a great job head to head with a top midfield. I have been wanting to see the coaches do something exciting with the midfield all year and they finally do, backing in the whole rotation to go head to head, so it is reductive (and wrong as pointed out) to attribute it all to one player.

The mid field did a fantastic job no one is suggesting other wise. What I’m saying is the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele. No it wasn’t 100% game time but our coaching group wanted that match up as often as possible.

[St Dave]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

In a reply to a post commending Pous performance on two gun mids you said 4 words 'Untrue Steele had Heeney'.

I have to commend that now, on being asked to back up that statement with evidence, you seem to have softened on that absolute stance, but are you now saying you can't do that because Heeney and Steele were never on the ground at the same time? Or maybe that when Heeney and Steele were on the ground at the same time Heeney was playing forward?

Just acknowledge that Pou (and the rest of the midfield) did a great job head to head with a top midfield. I have been wanting to see the coaches do something exciting with the midfield all year and they finally do, backing in the whole rotation to go head to head, so it is reductive (and wrong as pointed out) to attribute it all to one player.

The mid field did a fantastic job no one is suggesting other wise. What I’m saying is the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele. No it wasn’t 100% game time but our coaching group wanted that match up as often as possible.

You keep saying the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele but you aren't providing any evidence to back up that claim.

Are you secretly a coach? That the coaches wanted that matchup as often as possible is another new assertion without evidence, and given that Steele didn't go to Heeney at any centre bounce in the last quarter (at least), that also sounds made up

[CURLY]

Love this I need to provide evidence to back up myself against people with no evidence themselves.

[CURLY]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

In a reply to a post commending Pous performance on two gun mids you said 4 words 'Untrue Steele had Heeney'.

I have to commend that now, on being asked to back up that statement with evidence, you seem to have softened on that absolute stance, but are you now saying you can't do that because Heeney and Steele were never on the ground at the same time? Or maybe that when Heeney and Steele were on the ground at the same time Heeney was playing forward?

Just acknowledge that Pou (and the rest of the midfield) did a great job head to head with a top midfield. I have been wanting to see the coaches do something exciting with the midfield all year and they finally do, backing in the whole rotation to go head to head, so it is reductive (and wrong as pointed out) to attribute it all to one player.

The mid field did a fantastic job no one is suggesting other wise. What I’m saying is the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele. No it wasn’t 100% game time but our coaching group wanted that match up as often as possible.

You keep saying the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele but you aren't providing any evidence to back up that claim.

Are you secretly a coach? That the coaches wanted that matchup as often as possible is another new assertion without evidence, and given that Steele didn't go to Heeney at any centre bounce in the last quarter (at least), that also sounds made up

Of the first 5 centre bounces Heeney and Steel engage each other 4 times .

Steele also was with Heeney at the one defensive ball up for StKilda.

That’s the first quarter.

[CURLY]

Mattaes Phillipou was on both Warner and Heeney at varying times in the first three quarters and he let them slip away. But he was not playing a hard tag role and was in an outside role rather than an in and under role (played by Jack Steele). In the last quarter, he was matched to Rowbottom, who played wide of him. It meant they were both free on the outside. The ball came to Mattaes Phillipou and he used it to perfection with his foot. By and large, Sydney played as if their players would always beat our players. That doesn't take into account misses for goal, including four posters - as we have found out many times in the past. Looking at the replay, I though Jack Sinclair was one of our best mainly because of his use of the ball when he got it, which he did 28 times with 16 kicks.

Untrue Steele had Heeney.

Heeney attended two centre bounces in the last quarter. One he was matched up on Clark and one (the final one after we went in front) Pou took him.

Pou had Rowbottom then Warner then Heeney at bounces in the last

Of course there are times when players cross over or hand over but the match up was Steele to Heeney.

You speak with so much authority shutting people down, but where is the data to back it up?

The matchup can't be purely Steele to Heeney if he doesn't line up against him at the key centre bounces. When the game was in doubt in the last Steele was lined up on Warner twice as well as Adams, Rowbottom and Gulden.

When Heeney went forward Steele didn't go with him and when he was in the middle it was Clark and Pou.

Just because some commentator said it at some point during the match doesn't make it true. Trust your eyes not someone paid to fill silence. Happy for you to prove me wrong by watching back and reporting how many times they lined up against each other at stoppage.

You realise players go on and off the ground at various times and of course the match up is different when Heeney goes forward.

In a reply to a post commending Pous performance on two gun mids you said 4 words 'Untrue Steele had Heeney'.

I have to commend that now, on being asked to back up that statement with evidence, you seem to have softened on that absolute stance, but are you now saying you can't do that because Heeney and Steele were never on the ground at the same time? Or maybe that when Heeney and Steele were on the ground at the same time Heeney was playing forward?

Just acknowledge that Pou (and the rest of the midfield) did a great job head to head with a top midfield. I have been wanting to see the coaches do something exciting with the midfield all year and they finally do, backing in the whole rotation to go head to head, so it is reductive (and wrong as pointed out) to attribute it all to one player.

The mid field did a fantastic job no one is suggesting other wise. What I’m saying is the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele. No it wasn’t 100% game time but our coaching group wanted that match up as often as possible.

You keep saying the midfield match up was Heeney v Steele but you aren't providing any evidence to back up that claim.

Are you secretly a coach? That the coaches wanted that matchup as often as possible is another new assertion without evidence, and given that Steele didn't go to Heeney at any centre bounce in the last quarter (at least), that also sounds made up

Of the first 5 centre bounces Heeney and Steel engage each other 4 times .

Steele also was with Heeney at the one defensive ball up for StKilda.

That’s the first quarter.

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Centre bounces 2nd quarter Steele with Heeney all bar two.

One he had Warner the other Rowbottom.

Heeney grabbed Sinclair on both of his appearances but in a secondary bounce Heeney and Steele.