Mids

[B.M]

Need to win/find the ball

Clark 14
Dow 7
Henry 16
Windhager 10* tagging
Only Steele had 25

Total 72

Just not getting it done

Mids MUST be getting 25 as a minimum


Port
JHF 28
Rozee 25
Drew 24
Butters 22
Wines 18

Total 117

[Scollop]

They do as they're told

Restrict, harrass, bump, push, and block

Pity all those things involve focus on your opponent rather than focusing on the pill

Today we didn't back our mids to take them on. We started well and our intensity was quite good, but Port had 31 inside 50's in the first half. We had only 20. You're not going to win games of footy like that

Ross refuses to let our boys play.

[Devilhead]

Not an easy fix

No mid FAs want to come

We can draft mids but they are going to take time ... a lot of time to develop and match it with more mature mid set ups

Quite a depressing situation we are in

That said there are a number of teams with already decent established mid fields that aren't or won't get the job done to take them to a Premiership ... and they will soon need to rebuild as well

Our younger players are showing promise so we need to keep adding to this group and fingers crossed we soon start to pass other teams currently above us on their way down ... these next few drafts are crucial

[Scollop]

Not an easy fix

No mid FAs want to come

We can draft mids but they are going to take time ... a lot of time to develop and match it with more mature mid set ups

Quite a depressing situation we are in

... these next few drafts are crucial

You're assuming it's ALL personnel

[The Fireman]

Need to win/find the ball

Clark 14
Dow 7
Henry 16
Windhager 10* tagging
Only Steele had 25

Total 72

Just not getting it done

Mids MUST be getting 25 as a minimum


Port
JHF 28
Rozee 25
Drew 24
Butters 22
Wines 18

Total 117

Nice when the ruck taps it down your throat

[repta]

Saints are NOT a destination club. We need to build our own recruit well through the draft. Once we have them make sure we develop properly. Set goals expectations and development measures. Stop gifting games to rush to magical 50 games.
After 50 average - poor games will not suddenly result in a brilliant player. It will just result in an average poor ~75 game career.

We need another inside bull

[repta]

Saints are NOT a destination club. We need to build our own recruit well through the draft. Once we have them make sure we develop properly. Set goals expectations and development measures. Stop gifting games to rush to magical 50 games.
After 50 average - poor games will not suddenly result in a brilliant player. It will just result in an average poor ~75 game career.

We need another inside bull

[B.M]

Do you think mids only get possessions from stoppage?

And even at stoppage does a ruck make that much difference?

BTW - hit outs were 31-18

[The Fireman]

Do you think mids only get possessions from stoppage?

And even at stoppage does a ruck make that much difference?

BTW - hit outs were 31-18

made a massive difference in the first half of the game watch it again watch the ruckwork in the middle

[Devilhead]

Our young senior players are getting plenty of experience which will hold them in good stead

Finals now absolutely out of the equation so time to give some of our other youngsters a sniff

Phillipou to play the rest of the year as a mid
Garcia
Keeler
Heath
Hotton

Give them a few games ... for the experience at least

If some of our senior players are carrying niggles/injuries then rest them and get them right for next season

Not a lot to lose currently

[Teflon]

Saints are NOT a destination club. We need to build our own recruit well through the draft. Once we have them make sure we develop properly. Set goals expectations and development measures. Stop gifting games to rush to magical 50 games.
After 50 average - poor games will not suddenly result in a brilliant player. It will just result in an average poor ~75 game career.

We need another inside bull

Yep draft is our only way
It was last time too
We need to pick well

[skeptic]

Yeah. Really disappointed in Dow. Hasn’t come on at all like I hoped.

A fully fit Crouch would have been the difference

[B.M]

There was the obvious breakaway from Butters - tbh I’m not even sure who got that tap?

And a couple of other clear breakaways

But it’s a bit easier when you have 3 elite mids at your feet

[The Fireman]

There was the obvious breakaway from Butters - tbh I’m not even sure who got that tap?

And a couple of other clear breakaways

But it’s a bit easier when you have 3 elite mids at your feet

As soon as Marshall took over in the ruck our mids improved

[Life Long Saint]

Yeah. Really disappointed in Dow. Hasn’t come on at all like I hoped.

A fully fit Crouch would have been the difference

Bit harsh on Dow...
Injuries have soured both their seasons.

[Killa]

The defining period was when Marshall was replaced by Campbell

Three goals in minutes due to centre clearances and sweeping around the back of the contest and into space, the 3rd goal remonstrate by Hill either because of the (lack of) length of the pressured disposal or because Hill had touched it

Either way Hill remonstrated by gesticulating to the Umpire - and fair enough too

Those 3 goals established a margin - then Marshall returned

[Killa]

I would also add that when Sinclair was put into the midfield, Clark went to the defensive 6 where he continued to do well

That said hands on ball figures for some were not flattering

[B.M]

Thought Clark was poor

[The_Dud]

Our best mid is given a defensive role, and got touched up.

Says it all!

[B.M]

Who had a defensive role?

Windhager tagged Butters
Steele went head to head with JHF
Henry had Rozee

Dow and Clark came off the bench

[Vortex]

Dow looks like an Auskick kid on an AFL field

[Scollop]

We need another inside bull

We've got a bull but he gets zero opportunity at playing as a midfielder under Ross the boss

The really, really strange thing is...we recruited him because of his size and strength and explosiveness. He's perfect as an inside mid but we want to turn him into Tim Membrey

He was even under the radar from opposition clubs prior to St Kilda picking him in the draft. They saw him as the prototype modern day midfielder

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/ ... 529d7a2ec0

St Kilda’s top academy prospect could be pinched from the Saints’ grasp, with clubs considering whether to take gun running midfielder Mitchito Owens inside the top 20, reports the Herald Sun.

Owens has surged into first-round calculations after a terrific back-end to his 2021 campaign, averaging 23.3 disposals, 5.7 marks and 3/7 inside 50s from his final three NAB League games.

[D.B.Cooper]

With Ross nearing the end and Crouch injured, we have one true AFL quality midfielder in the team.

I see Henry, Hill, Pou as wingers, high half forwards who can rotate through there, same with Clark & Sinclair who are half backs can also take their turn and Windhager as a defensive mid. Wilson is promising.

We don’t have a Butters or JHF type explosive mid and there is very little in the VFL squad that fits this mould.

I agree with trying Owens, he has the physical attributes, perhaps disposal and tank are the concerns.

We are obviously not going to attract a free agent like McLuggage or LDU so we need to again hit the draft.

If Battle leaves and we get 2 picks inside the top 10 let’s hope we don’t f*** it up like we did in 2017 and we get a couple of VG young mids.

[samoht]

Port has their deficiencies outside of their midfield.

We are stronger in other areas.

We only need 1 or 2 more topline midfielders to move past them.

Swap midfields (and coaches or adopt a more attacking game plan) and we win by 10 goals.

[CURLY]

Our best mid is given a defensive role, and got touched up.

Says it all!

Just lies.