You're twisting the points being made. No one is arguing that he would have avoided facial fractures by doing weightsDevilhead wrote: ↑Thu 09 May 2024 12:29amAre you saying that his face needs to be stronger around the ball? Cause that's where he keeps getting hitrepta wrote: ↑Wed 08 May 2024 11:58pm Weights will ultimately strengthen anyone.
I can't believe some of the comments on this page.
There is inside mids and outside mids.
Inside mids need to be strong
outside mids need to be fast.
Clarke isn't blessed with speed (or much endurance really). Therefore needs to be strong around the ball otherwise he will just get pushed off it.
The conditioning and development coach hasn't done their job.
Wow we have stuffed up our development over the last 10 years (and continue to do so)
As for endurance ... he has had multiple games with 25+ possessions with a lot being contested ...... does that constitute having endurance?
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I agree.
I think Clark has shown his value as an inside mid, but he hasn't done it across 4 quarters and 100 minutes.
I think Hunter would have disposal numbers a lot higher if he had a tank to play out quarters. His tog averages over the course of his career (time on ground) are a little low.
I'm hoping the penny has dropped and that he's ready to step up and achieve his potential.
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Clark has plenty of games with 25+ possessions .... that says to me he has a tank ..... unfortunately for him that his journey has been interrupted these last few years noting the interruptions have had nothing to do with his fitnessScollop wrote: ↑Thu 09 May 2024 12:53amI agree.
I think Clark has shown his value as an inside mid, but he hasn't done it across 4 quarters and 100 minutes.
I think Hunter would have disposal numbers a lot higher if he had a tank to play out quarters. His tog averages over the course of his career (time on ground) are a little low.
I'm hoping the penny has dropped and that he's ready to step up and achieve his potential.
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AFL Tables shows his games of 25+Devilhead wrote: ↑Thu 09 May 2024 12:29amAre you saying that his face needs to be stronger around the ball? Cause that's where he keeps getting hitrepta wrote: ↑Wed 08 May 2024 11:58pm Weights will ultimately strengthen anyone.
I can't believe some of the comments on this page.
There is inside mids and outside mids.
Inside mids need to be strong
outside mids need to be fast.
Clarke isn't blessed with speed (or much endurance really). Therefore needs to be strong around the ball otherwise he will just get pushed off it.
The conditioning and development coach hasn't done their job.
Wow we have stuffed up our development over the last 10 years (and continue to do so)
As for endurance ... he has had multiple games with 25+ possessions with a lot being contested ...... does that constitute having endurance?
2019 Rd 17 vs Cats
2019 Rd 18 vs Bulldogs
2019 Rd 20 vs Adel
2019 Rd 21 vs Freo
2020 none over 25, he averaged 17.28 touches
*but* that was Covid w/shortened game time
2021 Rd 5 vs Richmond (33 touches)
2021 Rd 7 vs Hawks
2022 none over 25, first game Rd 14 (after rehab)
2023 Rd 2 Bulldogs
2023 Rd 5 Pies
2023 Rd 9 Adel
Nine games of 25 or more, out of 87 games.
His overall average disposals- a bit under 18
Contested: 6
Uncontested: 12
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I ain't twisting anything ... some forumites are questioning his fitness/endurance ... yet he has shown plenty of endurance and physical fitness with 25+ possession games a lot of which are contested.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 09 May 2024 12:51amYou're twisting the points being made. No one is arguing that he would have avoided facial fractures by doing weightsDevilhead wrote: ↑Thu 09 May 2024 12:29amAre you saying that his face needs to be stronger around the ball? Cause that's where he keeps getting hitrepta wrote: ↑Wed 08 May 2024 11:58pm Weights will ultimately strengthen anyone.
I can't believe some of the comments on this page.
There is inside mids and outside mids.
Inside mids need to be strong
outside mids need to be fast.
Clarke isn't blessed with speed (or much endurance really). Therefore needs to be strong around the ball otherwise he will just get pushed off it.
The conditioning and development coach hasn't done their job.
Wow we have stuffed up our development over the last 10 years (and continue to do so)
As for endurance ... he has had multiple games with 25+ possessions with a lot being contested ...... does that constitute having endurance?
They're questioning his commitment yet here is coming out thr other side from some pretty traumatic head hits which have nothing to do with fitness
They question why he can't put on muscle mass yet some here better credentialed to speak about body type and genetics have put that argument to bed
Please tell me you weren't excited in his early days with skill and movement he showcased??
I know I was
No reason at 25 years of age why he can't fulfill his promise
But hey ..... he's done .... finished ..... on the scrap heap .... let's make him someone else's weedy problem
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I'm 100% a Hunter supporter.
Fingers crossed for the lad. Love what he brings.
Loved how he started 2023 and also loved his input in the Elimination Final.
Fingers crossed for the lad. Love what he brings.
Loved how he started 2023 and also loved his input in the Elimination Final.
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And, given his unfortunate injury history to date. In how many games has he been unable to play out the full game?
And managed time on the comeback trail?
So statistics, statistics and damn lies
Further, his introduction to AFL football was as a defender - his transition to the midfield more recent and impacted by injuries such as having his face re-arranged
He is a “glider” across the ground with very good skills including being a two sided player which makes him space
We look forward to an uninterrupted future and the contribution he will make to St Kilda’s progress
Why did Clarkson want him?
And managed time on the comeback trail?
So statistics, statistics and damn lies
Further, his introduction to AFL football was as a defender - his transition to the midfield more recent and impacted by injuries such as having his face re-arranged
He is a “glider” across the ground with very good skills including being a two sided player which makes him space
We look forward to an uninterrupted future and the contribution he will make to St Kilda’s progress
Why did Clarkson want him?
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I would like people to get off the idea of *multiple games of 25+ possies*
Look up AFL Tables for his stats.
87 games played.
25 touches or more? NINE
NINE
His average disposal tally across 87 games is just under 18.
Not bad numbers, but not elite
Look up AFL Tables for his stats.
87 games played.
25 touches or more? NINE
NINE
His average disposal tally across 87 games is just under 18.
Not bad numbers, but not elite
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Wellard you dismissing 2020 where the matches were around 3/4 of a normal game .... plenty of games in 2020 where would have reached over 25+ possessions if they were full length
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Re: Hunter Clark
My post of 8/5/24, 22:33 addressed this very thing.
'but that was Covid, w/shortened game time'
It's about 5 or 6 posts higher up
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It didnt really addresss it because you happily choose to discount adding them to your NINE GAMES ... you could probably add at least half his 2020 games (he played 18 games) to that plus the game where he had his jaw broken into multiple pieces where he had 8 possessions in the 1st quarter before he got hit .... he was our best player up to that point whereafter we fell apart once he went off
So around 25% of his games could be classed as 25+ possessions ...... his 1st half of last year was very good until he copped another broken face
Do you think he is worth preservering with?
So around 25% of his games could be classed as 25+ possessions ...... his 1st half of last year was very good until he copped another broken face
Do you think he is worth preservering with?
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