It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Geeez let me think…
Half Forward Flank and Billings is going to be awarded three Brownlow Medals retrospectively
Half Forward Flank and Billings is going to be awarded three Brownlow Medals retrospectively
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
It's the fluffer !
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
As the article in ALF.com says,
“So here’s to the humble half-forwards, for it’s time they got their adulation.”
Now let’s all genuflect to the memorable past deeds when playing for the Saints, of our much loved traded JB, then move on!!
“So here’s to the humble half-forwards, for it’s time they got their adulation.”
Now let’s all genuflect to the memorable past deeds when playing for the Saints, of our much loved traded JB, then move on!!
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
How about the sub.
Have to wear different kit.
No idea when the next wicket will fall, when to pad up, fit a box (metaphorically);
No idea what role, what opponent;
Expected to make immediate and significant impact even if team mates are unaware you are activated and it's OK to kick or hand pass to you.
A lonely unappreciated role. With the comfort of knowing you will most likely be playing VFL next week, or even tomorrow.
No, not glamorous.
Have to wear different kit.
No idea when the next wicket will fall, when to pad up, fit a box (metaphorically);
No idea what role, what opponent;
Expected to make immediate and significant impact even if team mates are unaware you are activated and it's OK to kick or hand pass to you.
A lonely unappreciated role. With the comfort of knowing you will most likely be playing VFL next week, or even tomorrow.
No, not glamorous.
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Do you disagree?
Perhaps a footy related argument???
HF is clearly the hardest position to be dominant every week. If you know footy, you know why.
Now guess the easiest position to play?
Perhaps a footy related argument???
HF is clearly the hardest position to be dominant every week. If you know footy, you know why.
Now guess the easiest position to play?
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
The whole sub idea is stupid
It’ll be canned again in the next few years - it’s unnecessary
It’ll be canned again in the next few years - it’s unnecessary
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Zero goals
14 disposals
7 kicks
7 Hand balls
3 marks
1 tackle
1 goal assist
0 clearances
73% ToG
And those stats are mostly below his season averages
My biggest criticism of Jack was he is firmly planted in the bruise free category. Doesn't like the tough stuff or goes missing when the game is in the line (see bruise fee criticism).
Ironically he has a chance to player in a grand final if Melbourne can stay healthy as their list is capable but Jack is clearly in their bottom 2 to 4 players.
Is suited to a list that needs a bottom 2 to 4, not a list that barely has a top to 2 to 4.
On stats alone doesn't seem to
14 disposals
7 kicks
7 Hand balls
3 marks
1 tackle
1 goal assist
0 clearances
73% ToG
And those stats are mostly below his season averages
My biggest criticism of Jack was he is firmly planted in the bruise free category. Doesn't like the tough stuff or goes missing when the game is in the line (see bruise fee criticism).
Ironically he has a chance to player in a grand final if Melbourne can stay healthy as their list is capable but Jack is clearly in their bottom 2 to 4 players.
Is suited to a list that needs a bottom 2 to 4, not a list that barely has a top to 2 to 4.
On stats alone doesn't seem to
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
The AFL does not have stupid ideas.
They can be categorised as "before their time", "players finding it hard to adjust", "teething problems", "being subverted by coaches", "difficult for fans to accept", " umpires need more time to absorb the new rules", but never stupid.
And will only change over the Operations Manager's dead body or when that manager leaves to work for a betting agency.
They are introduced after consultation with the clubs, players association and commission members; unfortunately those bodies rarely recognise genius and need to be treated with distain, although their input is welcomed and ticked off prior to being ignored.
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
I get it for a concussion, and that was the original intent.
But not for any other injury. If a player has some tightness in a muscle, they can go and stand in the forward line, or players can play with some broken bones...But players are not permitted to play with concussion.
It's rarely the concussed players fault that they are concussed and can't play...even if they feel OK.
Go back to the original intent, and allow unlimited subs for concussion...BUT...once a team has used a sub, the other team is allowed to use theirs for any reason...otherwise it becomes an unfair advantage...especially later in the game.
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Injuries are a part of footy - and games
Not sure why Concussion is any different
What if you have 2 concussions or 3 concussions
Should we have 2 or 3 subs
Not sure why Concussion is any different
What if you have 2 concussions or 3 concussions
Should we have 2 or 3 subs
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Concussion is the only injury where we have a rule that prevents a player from returning to the field.
Yes...We should have unlimited subs for concussions.
I've seen players with broken bones, strains, corkies, punctured lungs, knee ligament issues all play on after the injury. Those injuries become a choice. There is no choice for concussion.
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
ACL
Achilles
Broken Ankle/Collar Bone/Jaw
Torn Hamstring Tendon
You ain’t returning onto the ground
Achilles
Broken Ankle/Collar Bone/Jaw
Torn Hamstring Tendon
You ain’t returning onto the ground
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Re: It's not glamorous': Footy's most underappreciated role
Blind panic? fear of ball coming your way?
Suffer baby.