(I'm leaving the Nick Daicos argument out of this -- irrelevant here.)Scollop wrote: ↑Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:29pmDid you watch the match? Honestly...did you?avid wrote: ↑Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:17pm
I know Bonner stuffed up a number of times. (Like everyone else, I'm not convinced he's a reliable enough defender.)
But he had almost twice as many kicks as anyone else, and he picked up more than a kilometre's worth of metres gained.
I don't recall a St Kilda player ever getting near that (since they started measuring it) It may only have happen once or twice in history.
That's got to count for something.
First of all he is a receiver. Not hard to gather disposal numbers running past your team mates. I reckon 6-7 touches where they are not required ( the guy handballing to him could have just kicked it himself)
He's supposed to be a good kick, so his team mates honour his run and give it to him. He gets uncontested possessions so he's required to use it effectively. He didn't!
Secondly he steps over the line and kicks out after a behind is scored, so there's probably 7-8 kicks that anyone could do. No effort...PLUS...once again he's required to use it effectively. He didn't!
Take out 5 useless receives, take out 5 useless kick outs, and take out half a dozen clangers and he's an average contributor. If you also factor in the times he's supposed to defend or hold up the ball and he just refuses to put his head over it, he's a liability overall
I was actually at the game -- so I didn't hear the broadcast commentary.
We were in the second row from the very top, so didn't see exactly which players were doing all the turnovers. Or who took all the kick outs.
I didn't have the heart to watch the replay when I got home.
Now I've just heard someone say that Bonner made 17 turnovers. That sounds like an almost impossible feat. (just like gaining 1000 metres is)
It is all astonishing. I've generally found "metres gained" to be a fairly good indicator of "contribution made" for those expected to be delivering field position.
So, if that 17 turnovers stat is right, I concede defeat. Bonner takes the prize for the greatest meterage of terrible delivery ever achieved, and we move on.
Could someone confirm that turnovers stat? Where do you find that information?