Tell me it's not so
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Tell me it's not so
Racial bullying allegations naming Essendon royalty, AFL deities and Carlton's enforcer.
What is the world coming to.
Trial will be interesting as most/all deny the claims.
What is the world coming to.
Trial will be interesting as most/all deny the claims.
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Re: Tell me it's not so
Geez. No Saints person should be smug. The 80’s was like a completely different lifetime. Very few of us can claim to be enlightened back then. Imagine if Glen James decided to file a case?
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Re: Tell me it's not so
Glen James was a Vietnam Veteran and had a great sense of humour. I remember hearing a story about a player picking up a bone that was left on the ground at the Western Oval during a match handing it to James and saying 'here you are, you've been umpiring like a dog all day'. James replied, quick as you like, 'be careful or I'll point it at you!'
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Re: Tell me it's not so
Interesting that Sheedy, who has from outward appearances done more for indigenous footballers and championed their cause more than any other AFL coaching figure is accused of inciting on-field racism.
Kevin Bartlett described Sheedy as the most ruthless and brutal player he had played with, and no doubt he was a brutal man.
But would he have instructed his players to racially taunt the Krakouer brothers to put them off their game?
Thankfully the disgusting racism of the 70's, 80's& early 90's is no longer tolerated, however is it fair to judge retrospective behaviour by today's standards? I don't know the answer and as a white male never experienced racism, so I cannot judge.
My personal opinion (with no supporting facts at all) is I have no doubt Sheedy would have issued instructions to verbalise & brutalise opposition players and little would have been off the table, but would he have specifically instructed players to racially abuse? I don't think so.
I do note that during the Krakouer Nth Melbourne era of 1982-89 that Essendon did not have indigenous listed players with Long recruited in 1989 and Wanganeen in 1991. Did the recruitment of Long and Wanganeen educate Sheedy and drive his passion toward supporting indigenous players?
I am interested in others opinion, particularly any indigenous forumites.
Kevin Bartlett described Sheedy as the most ruthless and brutal player he had played with, and no doubt he was a brutal man.
But would he have instructed his players to racially taunt the Krakouer brothers to put them off their game?
Thankfully the disgusting racism of the 70's, 80's& early 90's is no longer tolerated, however is it fair to judge retrospective behaviour by today's standards? I don't know the answer and as a white male never experienced racism, so I cannot judge.
My personal opinion (with no supporting facts at all) is I have no doubt Sheedy would have issued instructions to verbalise & brutalise opposition players and little would have been off the table, but would he have specifically instructed players to racially abuse? I don't think so.
I do note that during the Krakouer Nth Melbourne era of 1982-89 that Essendon did not have indigenous listed players with Long recruited in 1989 and Wanganeen in 1991. Did the recruitment of Long and Wanganeen educate Sheedy and drive his passion toward supporting indigenous players?
I am interested in others opinion, particularly any indigenous forumites.
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Re: Tell me it's not so
Great story, I sometimes wonder how Glen endured the constant racial abuse he was subject to throughout his umpiring career.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Tue 12 Mar 2024 9:52pmGlen James was a Vietnam Veteran and had a great sense of humour. I remember hearing a story about a player picking up a bone that was left on the ground at the Western Oval during a match handing it to James and saying 'here you are, you've been umpiring like a dog all day'. James replied, quick as you like, 'be careful or I'll point it at you!'
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He must be of great character and resilience.
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Re: Tell me it's not so
He was a true giant of Aussie Rules football.D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Wed 13 Mar 2024 1:11pmGreat story, I sometimes wonder how Glen endured the constant racial abuse he was subject to throughout his umpiring career.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Tue 12 Mar 2024 9:52pmGlen James was a Vietnam Veteran and had a great sense of humour. I remember hearing a story about a player picking up a bone that was left on the ground at the Western Oval during a match handing it to James and saying 'here you are, you've been umpiring like a dog all day'. James replied, quick as you like, 'be careful or I'll point it at you!'
One of the great characters of the game.
He must be of great character and resilience.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.