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Once upon a time there was an assistant Coach and he happened to come across a job as a first time senior coach of finals worthy list. They'd already played off in 2 x prelims and an elimination final in the 3 years prior to his lucky appointmentTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 17 Jul 2023 10:03pm Just for those interested in good footy discussion - do yourself a favour and take a read of this from Stav at BF:
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As I’ve already said.
We will get younger and shed those that have been here across the Richo and Ratten eras.
The new core is Pou Nas King Windy Owens Higgins - club thinks they will all be stars
Caminiti Stocker Sharman Byrnes all look like keepers.
They love the look of Keeler Van Es Hotton.
It’s the group of Howard Membrey Hill Steele Ross Billings Jones Marshall Battle Butler Clark Coffield Gresham Dmac Paton & Webster that is the issue.
Huge question on work ethic. Durability. Ability to perform consistently. Attention to preparation.
Wilkie Sinclair Wood - who meet the expectations of the boss. Arguably why all 3 are having career years.
Then there is a group that is just not rated. Predominantly kids.
Now you can’t bin them all. Or gut your experienced list. But the clubs been planning for a fair bit of movement.
So let’s see.
I imagine we will have 2 first round picks in contention for round 1 next year - Ross really happy to just bring kids through.
Hence why I said a few weeks ago, people who think he was brought in as a bloke who elevates an experienced list is wrong.
He was brought in to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play and be apart of a finals side.
Good post, and oh so true. ps, I didn't bother with the BF bulls***. Enough of that rubbish is already polluting this site.Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 4:43pmOnce upon a time there was an assistant Coach and he happened to come across a job as a first time senior coach of finals worthy list. They'd already played off in 2 x prelims and an elimination final in the 3 years prior to his lucky appointmentTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 17 Jul 2023 10:03pm Just for those interested in good footy discussion - do yourself a favour and take a read of this from Stav at BF:
Enjoy![]()
*******
As I’ve already said.
We will get younger and shed those that have been here across the Richo and Ratten eras.
The new core is Pou Nas King Windy Owens Higgins - club thinks they will all be stars
Caminiti Stocker Sharman Byrnes all look like keepers.
They love the look of Keeler Van Es Hotton.
It’s the group of Howard Membrey Hill Steele Ross Billings Jones Marshall Battle Butler Clark Coffield Gresham Dmac Paton & Webster that is the issue.
Huge question on work ethic. Durability. Ability to perform consistently. Attention to preparation.
Wilkie Sinclair Wood - who meet the expectations of the boss. Arguably why all 3 are having career years.
Then there is a group that is just not rated. Predominantly kids.
Now you can’t bin them all. Or gut your experienced list. But the clubs been planning for a fair bit of movement.
So let’s see.
I imagine we will have 2 first round picks in contention for round 1 next year - Ross really happy to just bring kids through.
Hence why I said a few weeks ago, people who think he was brought in as a bloke who elevates an experienced list is wrong.
He was brought in to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play and be apart of a finals side.
He did an outstanding job and got them to a GF in his 3rd year, but he left a few young players out of the 2009 GF side. One was a very good wet weather footballer and he would be considered a worthy choice as captain later in his career (he filled in for Nick Riewoldt as captain for 3 matches in 2016).
Another that was left out of that side was in fact the future captain, and another was a young lad from Lorne who loved kicking snags (gee, we could have used a couple of goals in that last quarter in '09). We all know that young lad went on to win a few B&F's at St Kilda.
He also left a bloke on the pine in the last quarter...but that's a different issue.
Then the story continues for this first time senior coach and he lands a new gig with another finals worthy list that played off in a prelim 12 months before his appointment. The team get into another GF and once again the footy world says he's done an outstanding job...and he did!! No doubt about it...BUT
The same issue may have happened in the GF for his second club where a future star of the game was not rated by the 'master' coach. This future star would go on to win multiple B&F's and a Brownlow medal...AND YET...the 'master coach' didn't think he was worthy of having this bloke in the starting squad.
This was despite the young bloke showing he could make an impact in the 2013 prelim when he came on as sub
This is the guy Bassatt and Lethlean have brought in to see "to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play"
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... etzug8oygz
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fre ... 2umih.html
I didn’t get pastScollop wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 4:43pmOnce upon a time there was an assistant Coach and he happened to come across a job as a first time senior coach of finals worthy list. They'd already played off in 2 x prelims and an elimination final in the 3 years prior to his lucky appointmentTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 17 Jul 2023 10:03pm Just for those interested in good footy discussion - do yourself a favour and take a read of this from Stav at BF:
Enjoy![]()
*******
As I’ve already said.
We will get younger and shed those that have been here across the Richo and Ratten eras.
The new core is Pou Nas King Windy Owens Higgins - club thinks they will all be stars
Caminiti Stocker Sharman Byrnes all look like keepers.
They love the look of Keeler Van Es Hotton.
It’s the group of Howard Membrey Hill Steele Ross Billings Jones Marshall Battle Butler Clark Coffield Gresham Dmac Paton & Webster that is the issue.
Huge question on work ethic. Durability. Ability to perform consistently. Attention to preparation.
Wilkie Sinclair Wood - who meet the expectations of the boss. Arguably why all 3 are having career years.
Then there is a group that is just not rated. Predominantly kids.
Now you can’t bin them all. Or gut your experienced list. But the clubs been planning for a fair bit of movement.
So let’s see.
I imagine we will have 2 first round picks in contention for round 1 next year - Ross really happy to just bring kids through.
Hence why I said a few weeks ago, people who think he was brought in as a bloke who elevates an experienced list is wrong.
He was brought in to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play and be apart of a finals side.
He did an outstanding job and got them to a GF in his 3rd year, but he left a few young players out of the 2009 GF side. One was a very good wet weather footballer and he would be considered a worthy choice as captain later in his career (he filled in for Nick Riewoldt as captain for 3 matches in 2016).
Another that was left out of that side was in fact the future captain, and another was a young lad from Lorne who loved kicking snags (gee, we could have used a couple of goals in that last quarter in '09). We all know that young lad went on to win a few B&F's at St Kilda.
He also left a bloke on the pine in the last quarter...but that's a different issue.
Then the story continues for this first time senior coach and he lands a new gig with another finals worthy list that played off in a prelim 12 months before his appointment. The team get into another GF and once again the footy world says he's done an outstanding job...and he did!! No doubt about it...BUT
The same issue may have happened in the GF for his second club where a future star of the game was not rated by the 'master' coach. This future star would go on to win multiple B&F's and a Brownlow medal...AND YET...the 'master coach' didn't think he was worthy of having this bloke in the starting squad.
This was despite the young bloke showing he could make an impact in the 2013 prelim when he came on as sub
This is the guy Bassatt and Lethlean have brought in "to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play"
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... etzug8oygz
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fre ... 2umih.html
If you want to only read opinions that you agree with. That’s Ok…carry onTeflon wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 5:23pmI didn’t get pastScollop wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 4:43pmOnce upon a time there was an assistant Coach and he happened to come across a job as a first time senior coach of finals worthy list. They'd already played off in 2 x prelims and an elimination final in the 3 years prior to his lucky appointmentTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 17 Jul 2023 10:03pm Just for those interested in good footy discussion - do yourself a favour and take a read of this from Stav at BF:
Enjoy![]()
*******
As I’ve already said.
We will get younger and shed those that have been here across the Richo and Ratten eras.
The new core is Pou Nas King Windy Owens Higgins - club thinks they will all be stars
Caminiti Stocker Sharman Byrnes all look like keepers.
They love the look of Keeler Van Es Hotton.
It’s the group of Howard Membrey Hill Steele Ross Billings Jones Marshall Battle Butler Clark Coffield Gresham Dmac Paton & Webster that is the issue.
Huge question on work ethic. Durability. Ability to perform consistently. Attention to preparation.
Wilkie Sinclair Wood - who meet the expectations of the boss. Arguably why all 3 are having career years.
Then there is a group that is just not rated. Predominantly kids.
Now you can’t bin them all. Or gut your experienced list. But the clubs been planning for a fair bit of movement.
So let’s see.
I imagine we will have 2 first round picks in contention for round 1 next year - Ross really happy to just bring kids through.
Hence why I said a few weeks ago, people who think he was brought in as a bloke who elevates an experienced list is wrong.
He was brought in to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play and be apart of a finals side.
He did an outstanding job and got them to a GF in his 3rd year, but he left a few young players out of the 2009 GF side. One was a very good wet weather footballer and he would be considered a worthy choice as captain later in his career (he filled in for Nick Riewoldt as captain for 3 matches in 2016).
Another that was left out of that side was in fact the future captain, and another was a young lad from Lorne who loved kicking snags (gee, we could have used a couple of goals in that last quarter in '09). We all know that young lad went on to win a few B&F's at St Kilda.
He also left a bloke on the pine in the last quarter...but that's a different issue.
Then the story continues for this first time senior coach and he lands a new gig with another finals worthy list that played off in a prelim 12 months before his appointment. The team get into another GF and once again the footy world says he's done an outstanding job...and he did!! No doubt about it...BUT
The same issue may have happened in the GF for his second club where a future star of the game was not rated by the 'master' coach. This future star would go on to win multiple B&F's and a Brownlow medal...AND YET...the 'master coach' didn't think he was worthy of having this bloke in the starting squad.
This was despite the young bloke showing he could make an impact in the 2013 prelim when he came on as sub
This is the guy Bassatt and Lethlean have brought in "to sort out who is an AFL footballer who can play"
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... etzug8oygz
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/fre ... 2umih.html
“Once upon a time…”
I find most of your posts could start with that given they’re all fantasy
But carry on
Stav worth a read though I think
Comparison King vs Caminiti, same age. Caminiti's doing okay.Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 6:47pm Stocker and Caminiti.
These are SOS's first (and I think only) recruits so far and RTB has played them every game (minus Caminiti's suspension).
No issue with Stocker. He's been a handy replacement for Long. Not great, but certainly worthy of his spot.
Caminiti however hasn't warranted automatic selection, to say nothing of praise at just about every RTB presser.
It strikes me as mindset over reality. My best mate SOS has come here to reshape this terrible list and it's going to start here with Caminiti and Stocker. They're untouchable.
I really thiink he has a big futuresamoht wrote: ↑Tue 18 Jul 2023 7:02pm
Comparison King vs Caminiti, same age. Caminiti's doing okay.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ ... 1=O&fid2=O