What do these inclusions mean?
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
Strange selection.
Sends a message me thinks.
Sends a message me thinks.
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Which decisions exactly B.M? Just so we are all on the same page.
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
Depends on the variety of Ross taking the dump!
If it was Seb and not Lyon, I'm pretty sure someone other than Teflon would be chowing down like an ASMR Youtuber on a crunchy piece of chicken.
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Look I eat s*** for breakfast so Ross’s could be tasty
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
tony74 wrote: ↑Thu 11 May 2023 8:18pmPerhaps they are trying to teach Windy to be a positive midfielder rather than a negative tagger ( which he was very good at) Don’t panic, I think everyone knows his potential, he was just channeled into a certain role under Ratts and I reckon the club and coaches can see the upside in a different role. But what do I knowTheGreatZacsby wrote: ↑Thu 11 May 2023 8:13pm I don’t know what it means… but what I want to know is what more does Windhager have to do to get a bloody game in the starting 22? I know Ross likes his structures, but he’s the answer to more run in the midfield. He can tag, he can kick a goal, he makes good decisions and his disposals and inside 50 are effective which is what we need. I’m really frustrated with selection.![]()
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Hands down agree with this sentiment.TheGreatZacsby wrote: ↑Thu 11 May 2023 8:13pm I don’t know what it means… but what I want to know is what more does Windhager have to do to get a bloody game in the starting 22? I know Ross likes his structures, but he’s the answer to more run in the midfield. He can tag, he can kick a goal, he makes good decisions and his disposals and inside 50 are effective which is what we need. I’m really frustrated with selection.
I'm shocked and frustrated.
WHAT THE HELL this kid needs to do.
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
It's interesting how both Windy and Bytel are young in terms of age and games played and both have been made Sub several times.
Both players put in huge performances in the VFL which you'd normally think would be worthy of a call up to seniors, considering the fact that we've had our arse whipped by the Crows
Sometimes it's not about what you produce game day...or how well you perform at Sandringham
Sometimes it's about getting noticed on the training track and around the club during the week...AND I'm not talking about your kicking, running or intensity inside the weights room.
Windy needs to walk up to Ross and talk about something stupid or funny, then sledge him and point out that he still has a funny walk.
In other words, be a suck, and be his mate and it could make a difference. Personality is important and you have to build a relationship with the coach.
It's like any other workplace imo
It's important to see Ross as a person and not just your footy coach. The youngsters need to understand that, and perhaps....maybe....it could influence the coach.
It's easier for the senior players to do that because they have more life experience. Some of our senior players like Seb have kids, so that too helps Seb Ross the person relate to Ross Lyon the person
Both players put in huge performances in the VFL which you'd normally think would be worthy of a call up to seniors, considering the fact that we've had our arse whipped by the Crows
Sometimes it's not about what you produce game day...or how well you perform at Sandringham
Sometimes it's about getting noticed on the training track and around the club during the week...AND I'm not talking about your kicking, running or intensity inside the weights room.
Windy needs to walk up to Ross and talk about something stupid or funny, then sledge him and point out that he still has a funny walk.
In other words, be a suck, and be his mate and it could make a difference. Personality is important and you have to build a relationship with the coach.
It's like any other workplace imo
It's important to see Ross as a person and not just your footy coach. The youngsters need to understand that, and perhaps....maybe....it could influence the coach.
It's easier for the senior players to do that because they have more life experience. Some of our senior players like Seb have kids, so that too helps Seb Ross the person relate to Ross Lyon the person
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
Somehow I don't see the likes of Byrnes or Owens cracking jokes to get in the 22. I see them as two players doing exactly what they are told from a team sense and positionally.
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
I wasn't talking about Byrnes/Owens vs Bytel/Windy
I was talking about Seb/Brad vs Bytel/Windy
How many ordinary games will it take before either Seb Ross or Brad Crouch get dropped?
Has Windy and Jack been given the opportunity or the same latitude?
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Treat the players equally. Rotate the sub and let Jack and Marcus take on more responsibility... especially straight after they show good form at Sandringham
I was talking about Seb/Brad vs Bytel/Windy
How many ordinary games will it take before either Seb Ross or Brad Crouch get dropped?
Has Windy and Jack been given the opportunity or the same latitude?
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Treat the players equally. Rotate the sub and let Jack and Marcus take on more responsibility... especially straight after they show good form at Sandringham
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Seb would probably be top ten in the b and f right now. Two weeks ago possibly top five. Has had a couple of poor games but he has runs on the board this year.Scollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 7:39am I wasn't talking about Byrnes/Owens vs Bytel/Windy
I was talking about Seb/Brad vs Bytel/Windy
How many ordinary games will it take before either Seb Ross or Brad Crouch get dropped?
Has Windy and Jack been given the opportunity or the same latitude?
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Treat the players equally. Rotate the sub and let Jack and Marcus take on more responsibility... especially straight after they show good form at Sandringham
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
So you are saying that all players have off days. I get that...
Wouldn't it be wise when a player has an off week to make them Sub the week after and bring in someone fresh and in good form?
Isn't that part of the art of good coaching and good management and maximising the team's chances of winning?
Wouldn't it be wise when a player has an off week to make them Sub the week after and bring in someone fresh and in good form?
Isn't that part of the art of good coaching and good management and maximising the team's chances of winning?
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I think part of growing as a player is proving you can learn and bounce back from an off week.
Two off weeks in a row is another story.
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I’m sure there’s politics in footy I know there isScollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 7:28am It's interesting how both Windy and Bytel are young in terms of age and games played and both have been made Sub several times.
Both players put in huge performances in the VFL which you'd normally think would be worthy of a call up to seniors, considering the fact that we've had our arse whipped by the Crows
Sometimes it's not about what you produce game day...or how well you perform at Sandringham
Sometimes it's about getting noticed on the training track and around the club during the week...AND I'm not talking about your kicking, running or intensity inside the weights room.
Windy needs to walk up to Ross and talk about something stupid or funny, then sledge him and point out that he still has a funny walk.
In other words, be a suck, and be his mate and it could make a difference. Personality is important and you have to build a relationship with the coach.
It's like any other workplace imo
It's important to see Ross as a person and not just your footy coach. The youngsters need to understand that, and perhaps....maybe....it could influence the coach.
It's easier for the senior players to do that because they have more life experience. Some of our senior players like Seb have kids, so that too helps Seb Ross the person relate to Ross Lyon the person
My advice to up and coming players wouldn’t be “be a suck”
I’m not sure RTB is that persuaded by that tbh
Meat n potatoes hard work types he likes
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NoScollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 8:59am So you are saying that all players have off days. I get that...
Wouldn't it be wise when a player has an off week to make them Sub the week after and bring in someone fresh and in good form?
Isn't that part of the art of good coaching and good management and maximising the team's chances of winning?
Re: What do these inclusions mean?
Hard to believe that when all the midfielders are fit then the order is
Steele
Crouch
Clark
Ross
Sinclair
Phillipou
Bytel
Windhager
Gresham
How does Phillipou get ahead of Windhager in midfield options
Come on Ross its not all about next year
Steele
Crouch
Clark
Ross
Sinclair
Phillipou
Bytel
Windhager
Gresham
How does Phillipou get ahead of Windhager in midfield options
Come on Ross its not all about next year
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That's fine. You're agreeing with Matthew Lloyd... I'm agreeing with Jimmy Barteltakeaway wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 12:32pmNoScollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 8:59am So you are saying that all players have off days. I get that...
Wouldn't it be wise when a player has an off week to make them Sub the week after and bring in someone fresh and in good form?
Isn't that part of the art of good coaching and good management and maximising the team's chances of winning?
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Thanks. Shawshank Redemption, my favourite movie.Scollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 4:13pmThat's fine. You're agreeing with Matthew Lloyd... I'm agreeing with Jimmy Barteltakeaway wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 12:32pmNoScollop wrote: ↑Fri 19 May 2023 8:59am So you are saying that all players have off days. I get that...
Wouldn't it be wise when a player has an off week to make them Sub the week after and bring in someone fresh and in good form?
Isn't that part of the art of good coaching and good management and maximising the team's chances of winning?
https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/news-2023- ... 558497c0e7
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Re: What do these inclusions mean?
So as predicted Paton, Bytel and Sharman are the outs.
I’d have preferred Bytel stay in the team and give Ross a rest or Steele if he’s really hampered with a niggle.
Pbly will be between Bytel and Coops for sub
I’d have preferred Bytel stay in the team and give Ross a rest or Steele if he’s really hampered with a niggle.
Pbly will be between Bytel and Coops for sub