Demographc for 2024
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Demographc for 2024
Interesting to hear talk re contracts on the radio and the expectation many will be done later int he year as the list is assessed. This makes sense considering the coaching staff and football staff all came in post trade and draft periods. RL has talked about getting young talent in many times.
Looking at the list
18-23 year olds (End of 2023 season): 20 players
24-30 year olds (End of 2023 season): 23 players
31 plus - 1 (Campbell)
Of the first group 7 are out of contract at end of the season
10 in the Second Group and Campbell in the 3rd
Gresham, McKenzie Restricted FA
Ross, Webster Unrestricted FA
Now NWM has signed will be interesting to see what happens with some of those out of contract EOY.
Guessing a watch on Gresham, Clark, Coffield - what they do and ability to get on and stay opn the park.
Would expect Caminiti , Stocker to get new offers which wont break the bank
McKenzie and Jones injury history will put a huge ? on a new contract at this stage I would think.
Base is not there with older players gone. Ability to add at the draft brings in younger guys and also doesn't hurt Salary cap when recruiting or re signing.
This also doesn't account for contracted players which may be moved
Looking at the list
18-23 year olds (End of 2023 season): 20 players
24-30 year olds (End of 2023 season): 23 players
31 plus - 1 (Campbell)
Of the first group 7 are out of contract at end of the season
10 in the Second Group and Campbell in the 3rd
Gresham, McKenzie Restricted FA
Ross, Webster Unrestricted FA
Now NWM has signed will be interesting to see what happens with some of those out of contract EOY.
Guessing a watch on Gresham, Clark, Coffield - what they do and ability to get on and stay opn the park.
Would expect Caminiti , Stocker to get new offers which wont break the bank
McKenzie and Jones injury history will put a huge ? on a new contract at this stage I would think.
Base is not there with older players gone. Ability to add at the draft brings in younger guys and also doesn't hurt Salary cap when recruiting or re signing.
This also doesn't account for contracted players which may be moved
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Re: Demographc for 2024
Reported on SEN that we are FINALLY taking a wait a see approach
TBF - there is no rush - Can you smell what the Ross is cooking????
If you don't want to be part of it - you can f@rk off.
That's why I was never worried about NWM - if his heart is not RW&B I don't want him at the club - but so glad he signed.
TBF - there is no rush - Can you smell what the Ross is cooking????
If you don't want to be part of it - you can f@rk off.
That's why I was never worried about NWM - if his heart is not RW&B I don't want him at the club - but so glad he signed.
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Re: Demographc for 2024
I'm not fussed if they don't re-sign Jones, he doesn't give the club much return on their investment and his disposal skills are quite ordinary, from memory. ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Six debutants for the Saints so far in Season 2024. ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Re: Demographc for 2024
Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
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Re: Demographc for 2024
Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 9:13amBeing a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
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Yes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!diddley wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 7:02pmThose that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 9:13amBeing a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
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Yes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 11:32pmYes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!diddley wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 7:02pmThose that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 9:13amBeing a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.
The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.
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Could have had a backended contract to make him a RFA. Just means that if someone picks him up Saints would get something possibly. That’s just a thought on how his contract would have been set in 2021.diddley wrote: ↑Sat 22 Apr 2023 12:06amYes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 11:32pmYes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!diddley wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 7:02pmThose that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 9:13amBeing a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.
The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.
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OK, makes more sense, I think I missed the point you were originally trying to make........diddley wrote: ↑Sat 22 Apr 2023 12:06amYes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 11:32pmYes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!diddley wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 7:02pmThose that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.Dis Believer wrote: ↑Fri 21 Apr 2023 9:13amBeing a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.
The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.
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Re: Demographc for 2024
I think that the OP has Ross and McKenzie in the wrong columns.
There is no way, IMHO, that McKenzie is in our top 11 paid players and Ross isn't.
I'd be amazed if that were true.
There is no way, IMHO, that McKenzie is in our top 11 paid players and Ross isn't.
I'd be amazed if that were true.
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Re: Demographc for 2024
Nope. It’s all correct. I just don’t believe that Dmac should be in that bracket.
But I do think axellence is correct. It is probably because the contract was back ended.
(Ross is UFA because the 25% rule is ignored after 10 years at the club, which Ross has now qualified for)
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Re: Demographc for 2024
I’m pretty sure Ross and Billings both had cuts to their salary last contract review.
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Re: Demographc for 2024
Who might have predicted Ronnie Burns selected to start in front of Windy. Fluctuations, eh. And the Caminiti story. If I were a manager I would not be playing the lets shelve talks for a while card, just lock something in.