Whispers of Bing to Pies
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Seems to me that some on here are overthinking this or just being contrarian.
(i) Two Kings in one side is a massive headache for opposition teams.
(ii) Both Kings are likely to accept less to play at one side and fulfil the dream.
(iii) There's no reason they both have to play permanently in the forward line.
(iv) The crumbers will literally be salivating.
(i) Two Kings in one side is a massive headache for opposition teams.
(ii) Both Kings are likely to accept less to play at one side and fulfil the dream.
(iii) There's no reason they both have to play permanently in the forward line.
(iv) The crumbers will literally be salivating.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Worst case is we must show interest if only to drive up a bidding war between Collingwood & Essendon. Both of those clubs will be thinking similarly.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Biggest mistake the Suns ever made was not taking 2 X Kings when they had 3 picks in the top 6.Ghost Like wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 6:54pm Worst case is we must show interest if only to drive up a bidding war between Collingwood & Essendon. Both of those clubs will be thinking similarly.
Brooke & Marni probably would’ve gone to the GC (supported by the club) and they would have had two potentially generational players for their careers.
I think Dew will get the arse at season’s end and Ben moving will depend on the replacement.
You could also see a pre RFA deal being done if Ben wants to extract a good deal for the Suns.
Hopefully our rash over spending ( Hannebery, Hill, Jones) is over and we secure Ben at a decent market rate.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Sponsored by adventure kings.D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 7:05pm Biggest mistake the Suns ever made was not taking 2 X Kings when they had 3 picks in the top 6.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
A lot of assumptions being made here.Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 6:52pm Seems to me that some on here are overthinking this or just being contrarian.
(i) Two Kings in one side is a massive headache for opposition teams.
(ii) Both Kings are likely to accept less to play at one side and fulfil the dream.
(iii) There's no reason they both have to play permanently in the forward line.
(iv) The crumbers will literally be salivating.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
I thought Caminiti was going to be the bees knees and a good one-two thing with Ming?
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
I don't think there is any amount of rationalizing that can deflect how damn good it would be if Ben.The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 10:30pmA lot of assumptions being made here.Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 6:52pm Seems to me that some on here are overthinking this or just being contrarian.
(i) Two Kings in one side is a massive headache for opposition teams.
(ii) Both Kings are likely to accept less to play at one side and fulfil the dream.
(iii) There's no reason they both have to play permanently in the forward line.
(iv) The crumbers will literally be salivating.
The sheer enormity of his obvious talent has not been realized yet, and any side having an opportunity for such a gift would be doing someting irratiional, beyond any madness we have seen, to refuse.
He is an enormous would be- gift horse that shouldn't be even glanced at, yet alone stared upon.
'Wouldn't suit out current set up?'
What???
What set-up?
It is like saying a Porche Turbo wouldn't fit in the garage because of the Wolsely Bllue Streak. so we better not accept it.
The only caveat beside chronic injury is psychological / confidence issues, which both boys seem to be dealing with at least on the field.
That fixed, the sky is the limit.
If Ben came it is good news.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Plenty to like about this prospect, and will not have cost a single draft pick.Jacks Back wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 11:09pm I thought Caminiti was going to be the bees knees and a good one-two thing with Ming?
The way The Hammer roams the ground as a 19 year old is excellent, and he is yet to do an AFL preseason.
Ming, Caminiti, Membrey, Phillipou, Higgins and Butler/Gresham/Owens
That's an exciting forward line
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
I could only see getting Bing as being a positive for Caminati.Banger9798 wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 11:30pmPlenty to like about this prospect, and will not have cost a single draft pick.Jacks Back wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 11:09pm I thought Caminiti was going to be the bees knees and a good one-two thing with Ming?
The way The Hammer roams the ground as a 19 year old is excellent, and he is yet to do an AFL preseason.
Ming, Caminiti, Membrey, Phillipou, Higgins and Butler/Gresham/Owens
That's an exciting forward line
As good as he’s been, I don’t know that he’s really suited to be the key forward that you rely on ala Max. I think Caminati is more mobile and is a bit more in the Membrey mould of a medium sized forward that’s a bit bigger/stronger and mobile. I’d be happier with Caminati playing on the third choice defender… feel like that would be a huge advantage for us to exploit
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Spot. On.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 19 Apr 2023 9:28amOur future midfield will be Windhager, Owens, Phillipou, Hotton…meher baba wrote: ↑Wed 19 Apr 2023 9:23am I can't see for the life of me why we'd ever want him. I must confess that I have never even been totally sold on Max. Undoubtedly, he's terrific at winning the ball inside the forward 50, and is amazingly good for a big man when the ball's on the ground. But, like St Nick before him,I wouldn't put money on him converting more than 3 out of 5 set shots in a pressure game from 40 metres out directly in front at Marvel with the roof on. And converting set shots is what good forwards do.
If Bing doesn't end up going to the Pies, perhaps we could offer them Max as a direct swap for De Goey. Sacrilege, I know.
But I am convinced that our main weakness is not up forward, but - as it has been more many years - in the midfield in terms of attacking potency. Things are a little better in that department this season due to Clark stepping up a bit, Sinclair playing further forward on occasions, and Crouch displaying an attacking dimension to his game that we haven't seen previously. But we are still particularly weak in this area. That's where a De Goey (or a Petracca, but let's not go back there) would have made a massive difference.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
I have been on the Bing train from day dot and would love him to come to us.
Anyone thinking we have no room for a 200cm elite key position player is just silly.
Does anyone know if it is a chance though..?
Would it be this year..?
I think it has to be, to try and get him in open market would mean paying too much,
We would possibly need to give up a player though as I am not sure foldcoast need picks..? They have so much young talent already.
So what do we need to give up to get him..?
Ben Ainsworth would also be a nice get from them
Anyone thinking we have no room for a 200cm elite key position player is just silly.
Does anyone know if it is a chance though..?
Would it be this year..?
I think it has to be, to try and get him in open market would mean paying too much,
We would possibly need to give up a player though as I am not sure foldcoast need picks..? They have so much young talent already.
So what do we need to give up to get him..?
Ben Ainsworth would also be a nice get from them
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Prefer Anderson to be honest.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Prefer any very good player that does not cost us draft picks. Anderson is very good. Bing with Ming will be very good.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Would GC be interested in Lets say battle and maybe hayes and a 2 round this year and next year for Bing
It sounds a lot but its a once in lifetime opportunity.
We can cover Battle and Hayes with some young guys I know it would be hard to loose them but Battle contract expires soon anyway.
It sounds a lot but its a once in lifetime opportunity.
We can cover Battle and Hayes with some young guys I know it would be hard to loose them but Battle contract expires soon anyway.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Battle is already a far better AFL footballer than Ben King. So a big no from me.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
I wouldnt say better but Battle is an integral member of our defence now and wouldnt like to lose him. I doubt Ben King will leave this year in any event, but as has been suggested a lot will depend on how they handle the Dew exit.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
At what cost though?shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 11:15pmI don't think there is any amount of rationalizing that can deflect how damn good it would be if Ben.The_Dud wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 10:30pmA lot of assumptions being made here.Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Thu 20 Apr 2023 6:52pm Seems to me that some on here are overthinking this or just being contrarian.
(i) Two Kings in one side is a massive headache for opposition teams.
(ii) Both Kings are likely to accept less to play at one side and fulfil the dream.
(iii) There's no reason they both have to play permanently in the forward line.
(iv) The crumbers will literally be salivating.
The sheer enormity of his obvious talent has not been realized yet, and any side having an opportunity for such a gift would be doing someting irratiional, beyond any madness we have seen, to refuse.
He is an enormous would be- gift horse that shouldn't be even glanced at, yet alone stared upon.
'Wouldn't suit out current set up?'
What???
What set-up?
It is like saying a Porche Turbo wouldn't fit in the garage because of the Wolsely Bllue Streak. so we better not accept it.
The only caveat beside chronic injury is psychological / confidence issues, which both boys seem to be dealing with at least on the field.
That fixed, the sky is the limit.
If Ben came it is good news.
Ben King in, Owens and Pou out?
Then there’s salary cap, you can’t have 18 $1M players running around.
You can’t even fit 2 $1M in your forward line.
The only way he’d be affordable is if he’s no good, and then we obviously wouldn’t really want him.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
If he goes to the Pies ... he'll be Ping (there's a nice ring to that).
And we'll have Sting.
And we'll have Sting.
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Re: Whispers of Bing to Pies
Of course, because it’s massive unders!
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GC should just fold if they do a deal like that
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