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Crouch
Obviously he has been a solid pick up as a FA from Adelaide
Consistent ball winner, hard as a goats forehead
When he first arrived he was carrying a bit, chubby in the face, bit of a gut.
He worked that off, and got fit and performed
However,
This season he’s gone nuts!!!
He is lean as fk, fit as fk, and training the house down!!!!
Has not missed a session!!!
My early tip for the B&F
Look for Hill to also finish high, his pre season similarly good
And fitness is back and through the roof
Windhager has been spoken about plenty. All of the hype is real.
He was a big bodied boy for an 18yo which is why he transitioned into AFL so easily.
However, he looks like he has been training for a world title fight!
Never seen a guy so lean and ripped!
My tip for top 3 in the B&F
Throw Steele and Sincs in there - that’s my top 5
Consistent ball winner, hard as a goats forehead
When he first arrived he was carrying a bit, chubby in the face, bit of a gut.
He worked that off, and got fit and performed
However,
This season he’s gone nuts!!!
He is lean as fk, fit as fk, and training the house down!!!!
Has not missed a session!!!
My early tip for the B&F
Look for Hill to also finish high, his pre season similarly good
And fitness is back and through the roof
Windhager has been spoken about plenty. All of the hype is real.
He was a big bodied boy for an 18yo which is why he transitioned into AFL so easily.
However, he looks like he has been training for a world title fight!
Never seen a guy so lean and ripped!
My tip for top 3 in the B&F
Throw Steele and Sincs in there - that’s my top 5
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Re: Crouch
Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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Re: Crouch
Is this from today's training?B.M wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 2:37pm Obviously he has been a solid pick up as a FA from Adelaide
Consistent ball winner, hard as a goats forehead
When he first arrived he was carrying a bit, chubby in the face, bit of a gut.
He worked that off, and got fit and performed
However,
This season he’s gone nuts!!!
He is lean as fk, fit as fk, and training the house down!!!!
Has not missed a session!!!
My early tip for the B&F
Look for Hill to also finish high, his pre season similarly good
And fitness is back and through the roof
Windhager has been spoken about plenty. All of the hype is real.
He was a big bodied boy for an 18yo which is why he transitioned into AFL so easily.
However, he looks like he has been training for a world title fight!
Never seen a guy so lean and ripped!
My tip for top 3 in the B&F
Throw Steele and Sincs in there - that’s my top 5
Very happy with Crouch, he has been a terrific recruit.
How is Clark tracking?
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Re: Crouch
I have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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Might be a much shorter answer if you ask who 'weren't' the culpritsGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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For BM & Saintmike.
How is Ryan Byrnes training?
I think this kid has something, good pace, reasonable evasive skills, hard at it and looked trim and fit in the pics I’ve seen of training.
I think he’s in front of Bytel for running capacity and outside skills.
He looked a cut above VFL last year in the first half of the season.
How is Ryan Byrnes training?
I think this kid has something, good pace, reasonable evasive skills, hard at it and looked trim and fit in the pics I’ve seen of training.
I think he’s in front of Bytel for running capacity and outside skills.
He looked a cut above VFL last year in the first half of the season.
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Re: Crouch
@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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First you have to have the ball.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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First, you have to have the ball.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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Keeping it needs to be a priority.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:39amFirst, you have to have the ball.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
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Gershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Webster and Howard were culprits in defence, both are prone to brain fades.
On the flip side NWM kicking elite..must get the ball into his hands as much as possible coming out of defence!
Jimmy tends to be a bit cute with his decision making & at times goes horribly wrong.
Gresham kicks floaters, ball travels far too slow through the air.
Young Eyre is a lovely kick, low and quick through the air, Stocker had a shot at goal off 2 steps outside 50 & went 3/4 post high!
DMac has improved his kicking out of sight since 3 years ago.
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Re: Crouch
Dmac back training?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:34amGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Webster and Howard were culprits in defence, both are prone to brain fades.
On the flip side NWM kicking elite..must get the ball into his hands as much as possible coming out of defence!
Jimmy tends to be a bit cute with his decision making & at times goes horribly wrong.
Gresham kicks floaters, ball travels far too slow through the air.
Young Eyre is a lovely kick, low and quick through the air, Stocker had a shot at goal off 2 steps outside 50 & went 3/4 post high!
DMac has improved his kicking out of sight since 3 years ago.
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I read elsewhere Mike that in any drill group he’s in Connolly stands out for this reasonSaintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:34amGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Webster and Howard were culprits in defence, both are prone to brain fades.
On the flip side NWM kicking elite..must get the ball into his hands as much as possible coming out of defence!
Jimmy tends to be a bit cute with his decision making & at times goes horribly wrong.
Gresham kicks floaters, ball travels far too slow through the air.
Young Eyre is a lovely kick, low and quick through the air, Stocker had a shot at goal off 2 steps outside 50 & went 3/4 post high!
DMac has improved his kicking out of sight since 3 years ago.
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I agree there is no point in busting your arse only to hand the ball back to the opposition with poor skills. I watched the winning game against Geelong last night, we won it through sheer effort and moving the ball quickly. But our skills were second rate.Gershwin wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:02amKeeping it needs to be a priority.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:39amFirst, you have to have the ball.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Our skill levels compared to there's, were left wanting - they were level above. Too many times we dropped marks or missed relatively easy targets by foot. If we want to become a top 4 side we absolutely have to clean up and improve our skills, because in the heat of important games we cant be giving the opposition easy turnovers. Those moments are as important as accurate goal kicking, they are critical to teams becoming sucessful IMO.
The kids we have coming through are a group of better skilled players, so hopefully they can squeeze out the weak links over time. I hope RTB puts as much importance in that as he does quick ball movement, if he doesnt we will get exposed.
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There’s a heavy emphasis on ball movement, so yes, skills are a big part of that.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
The boss obviously wants better exiting out of defensive 50, so ball use plays a big part.
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I’m a Connolly fan too, it’s purely a gut feeling but I think the thing that holds Leo back is his belief he’s good enough at the level.Teflon wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 6:00pmI read elsewhere Mike that in any drill group he’s in Connolly stands out for this reasonSaintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:34amGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Webster and Howard were culprits in defence, both are prone to brain fades.
On the flip side NWM kicking elite..must get the ball into his hands as much as possible coming out of defence!
Jimmy tends to be a bit cute with his decision making & at times goes horribly wrong.
Gresham kicks floaters, ball travels far too slow through the air.
Young Eyre is a lovely kick, low and quick through the air, Stocker had a shot at goal off 2 steps outside 50 & went 3/4 post high!
DMac has improved his kicking out of sight since 3 years ago.
Skills above most …..it’s why I’m a fan-boy
If he pushes out a Webster (oh gosh there’s that word again!!) happy days imo
If you dissect his game, he’s got speed, good hands & foot skills both sides..he’s also feisty & brave.
One to watch!!
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Byrnes is another one in great shape..the main thing going for him is a great endurance and pace.D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:32am For BM & Saintmike.
How is Ryan Byrnes training?
I think this kid has something, good pace, reasonable evasive skills, hard at it and looked trim and fit in the pics I’ve seen of training.
I think he’s in front of Bytel for running capacity and outside skills.
He looked a cut above VFL last year in the first half of the season.
I’m just concerned there aren’t enough strings to his bow to become a regular AFL player.
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He is still young 21 yo, he just needs to improve his contested game and polish his kicking. The big thing going for him is he can find the footy, I am hopeful he gets a good run playing midfield with Sandringham and grows in confidence.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 6:44pmByrnes is another one in great shape..the main thing going for him is a great endurance and pace.D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:32am For BM & Saintmike.
How is Ryan Byrnes training?
I think this kid has something, good pace, reasonable evasive skills, hard at it and looked trim and fit in the pics I’ve seen of training.
I think he’s in front of Bytel for running capacity and outside skills.
He looked a cut above VFL last year in the first half of the season.
I’m just concerned there aren’t enough strings to his bow to become a regular AFL player.
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Re: Crouch
Byrnes is a good little player
Will provide good depth and cover for injury prone player like Jones, Billings, Gresham and Clark
Webster is twice the footballer Connelly is … and then some
You need more than a neat kick to be considered a good player
Will provide good depth and cover for injury prone player like Jones, Billings, Gresham and Clark
Webster is twice the footballer Connelly is … and then some
You need more than a neat kick to be considered a good player
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Hard to tell based on selection.
Impressions led us to think Bytel was more in favour in '21 but Byrnes in '22.
Will be another Ross Lyon question I am curious about.
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Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 6:16pmI agree there is no point in busting your arse only to hand the ball back to the opposition with poor skills. I watched the winning game against Geelong last night, we won it through sheer effort and moving the ball quickly. But our skills were second rate.Gershwin wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:02amKeeping it needs to be a priority.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:39amFirst, you have to have the ball.saintly wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 8:33am@saintmike65 do you think Ross is making skills the same priority as run and speed?Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Our skill levels compared to there's, were left wanting - they were level above. Too many times we dropped marks or missed relatively easy targets by foot. If we want to become a top 4 side we absolutely have to clean up and improve our skills, because in the heat of important games we cant be giving the opposition easy turnovers. Those moments are as important as accurate goal kicking, they are critical to teams becoming sucessful IMO.
The kids we have coming through are a group of better skilled players, so hopefully they can squeeze out the weak links over time. I hope RTB puts as much importance in that as he does quick ball movement, if he doesnt we will get exposed.
The Geelong win was similar to the Richmond win..both of them were overall the better side for a large chunk of the game, however we had a surge that was the difference.
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Re: Crouch
Would love to know what Lyon thinks of his brother.
Matt Crouch isn’t listed as best 22, or even emergency, by some fan on The Roar in January.
He did play 11 games..(maybe some as sub?) in ‘22
But it’s hard to fathom. ‘21 was injured, but he was Best n Fairest, All Australian in ‘17. He’s younger than Brad. And we didn’t want to recruit him.
Is he better than Seb Ross, than Tow-ball?
Anyway, we didn’t pick him.
Matt Crouch isn’t listed as best 22, or even emergency, by some fan on The Roar in January.
He did play 11 games..(maybe some as sub?) in ‘22
But it’s hard to fathom. ‘21 was injured, but he was Best n Fairest, All Australian in ‘17. He’s younger than Brad. And we didn’t want to recruit him.
Is he better than Seb Ross, than Tow-ball?
Anyway, we didn’t pick him.
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Totally agreeSaintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 6:38pmI’m a Connolly fan too, it’s purely a gut feeling but I think the thing that holds Leo back is his belief he’s good enough at the level.Teflon wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 6:00pmI read elsewhere Mike that in any drill group he’s in Connolly stands out for this reasonSaintmike65 wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jan 2023 9:34amGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 4:25pmI have no problem with run and spread, but it can come undone with poor disposal as you have suggested. Would like to hear who are the main culprits.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Wed 11 Jan 2023 3:23pm Nice to read such positive words.
No coincidence Steele and crouch are so lean with the boss building his game plan around run & spread.
We do need to get the skill level up to minimise turnovers.
On Monday there were some really basic skill errors occurring that need to be rectified if we’re to be any good this year!
Webster and Howard were culprits in defence, both are prone to brain fades.
On the flip side NWM kicking elite..must get the ball into his hands as much as possible coming out of defence!
Jimmy tends to be a bit cute with his decision making & at times goes horribly wrong.
Gresham kicks floaters, ball travels far too slow through the air.
Young Eyre is a lovely kick, low and quick through the air, Stocker had a shot at goal off 2 steps outside 50 & went 3/4 post high!
DMac has improved his kicking out of sight since 3 years ago.
Skills above most …..it’s why I’m a fan-boy
If he pushes out a Webster (oh gosh there’s that word again!!) happy days imo
If you dissect his game, he’s got speed, good hands & foot skills both sides..he’s also feisty & brave.
One to watch!!
I’m a massive believer as Clarkson did with Hawks that skill by foot in the modern gane is critical- can it be improved if you’re a dodgy kick like Byrnes? but it’s a lot of work
I agree re Connolly - it’s confidence he belongs
He’s shown at senior level before he can be damaging and find the footy so that’s not an issue
His kicking skills are innate- hard to teach that
Again, give me 20-25 by a good user by foot over 30-35 ball butchers/rainbow kickers anyday…they just don’t hurt u as much
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