Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

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Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980216Post StPeter »

Who will have the most votes for Saints tonight?

It should be Sinclair or Steele although Sincs came a clear 2nd in our B&F last year and didn't get a vote!!

Personally I am hoping Sincs might even win it as I backed him early in season at 1000 to 1

Of course I may be wrong and someone like Crouch might top the Saints poll.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980218Post B.M »

Steele

Midfielder award


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980219Post kosifantutti »

Using the Saintsational votes, I’m attempting to predict our votes in the Brownlow.

The method:
If we win by 36+ votes we get 3,2,1
Win by 18-35 we get 3,2
Win by 1-17 we get 3,1
Lose by 1-17 we get 2
Lose by 18-35 we get 1
Lose by 36+ nothing.

Round 1
Hayes 2

Round 2
Battle 3
King 2

Round 3
Crouch 3
Sinclair 2

Round 4
Sinclair 3
Hill 2
Steele 1

Round 5
Higgins 3
Steele 2

Round 6
Battle 3
Steele 1

Round 7
Steele 2

Round 8

Round 9
Crouch 3
Ryder 1

Round 10
Hill 3
King 2

Round 11
Sinclair 3
Hill 2
Ross 1

Round 13
Sinclair 1

Round 14
Gresham 1

Round 15

Round 16
Sinclair 3
Membrey 1

Round 17

Round 18
Wilkie 1

Round 19
Steele 3
Crouch 1

Round 20
Marshall 3
Crouch 1

Round 21

Round 22
Wood 2

Round 23
Long 2

Totals
Sinclair 12
Steele 9
Crouch 8
Hill 7
Battle 6
King 4
Higgins 3
Marshall 3
Hayes 2
Wood 2
Long 2
Ryder 1
Ross 1
Gresham 1
Membrey 1
Wilkie 1

Total 63 Votes


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980222Post Sainter_Dad »

RoundSaintsationalVotesBrownlowVotes
Round 1Hayes2Hayes1
Round 2Battle3King2
King2Higgins1
Round 3Crouch3Gresham3
Sinclair2Steele2
King1
Round 4Sinclair3Steele3
Hill2Sinclair2
Steele1Hill1
Round 5Higgins3Higgins3
Steele2Steele2
Round 6Battle3Higgins3
Steele1Crouch2
Round 7Steele2Steele2
Ross1
Round 8
Round 9Crouch3Crouch3
Ryder1Ryder2
Sinclair1
Round 10Hill3King3
King2Hill2
Round 11Sinclair3Sinclair3
Hill2Gresham2
Ross1Hill1
Round 13Sinclair1
Round 14Gresham1
Round 15
Round 16Sinclair3Sinclair3
Membrey1Ryder2
Membrey1
Round 17
Round 18Wilkie1
Round 19Steele3Steele3
Crouch1Crouch2
Butler1
Round 20Marshall3Marshall3
Crouch1Crouch2
Round 21Crouch1
Round 22Wood2Wood2
Round 23Long2Hannebery3
Long2
Steele1
Steele 13
Crouch 10
Sinclair 9
Higgins 7
King 6
Gresham 5
Hill 4
Ryder 4
Marshall 3
Hannebery 3
Long 2
Wood 2
Butler 1
Hayes 1
Membrey 1
Ross 1
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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980226Post Banger9798 »

Brownlow medal just about unmatchable these days....so much crap....just read the votes and stop with the cringeworthy segments


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980230Post 1971 »

Crazy that someone like Wilkie could finish with one vote if your polling is right. Even with the award being biased towards midfielders that is still neglectful.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980231Post CQ SAINT »

Windy might not get a vote but he might have cost Neale the Browlow.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980232Post StPeter »

1971 wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 10:57pm Crazy that someone like Wilkie could finish with one vote if your polling is right. Even with the award being biased towards midfielders that is still neglectful.
Wilkie no votes!!


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980233Post Otiman »

Didn't even know it was on. Is there anything less relevant in footy these days than the Brownlow?


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980234Post kosifantutti »

Otiman wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 11:30pm Didn't even know it was on. Is there anything less relevant in footy these days than the Brownlow?
The Brownlow red carpet.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980240Post kosifantutti »

The 3,2,1 in the last round is the first time a losing team has done that since Essendon against us in 2006.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

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B.M wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 8:28pm Steele

Midfielder award
As it again proved


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980255Post Life Long Saint »

kosifantutti wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 11:47pm The 3,2,1 in the last round is the first time a losing team has done that since Essendon against us in 2006.
Was that a wet and windy day at the 'G?
Horrible game. We only hit the front at the 16min mark of the last quarter and nobody scored after that.
Essendon won that game everywhere but the scoreboard.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980257Post Life Long Saint »

Trev from the Bush wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 11:50pm
B.M wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 8:28pm Steele

Midfielder award
As it again proved
As is every other award going around.
There are so many midfielders in the game now.
For most of footy's life, there were only three midfielders on each team. Ruck Rover, Rover, and Centre. Now 6-10 players rotate through the middle each game.

Best non-midfielder this season was Jeremy Cameron with 19 votes. But he gets up the ground quite a bit.
Taylor Walker had 14 after missing the first three games. Tom Lynch also had 14 votes.
Max Gawn was the best ruckman with 12 votes.
The Coleman Medallist recieved 11 Brownlow votes.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980258Post kosifantutti »

Life Long Saint wrote: Mon 19 Sep 2022 9:12am
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 11:47pm The 3,2,1 in the last round is the first time a losing team has done that since Essendon against us in 2006.
Was that a wet and windy day at the 'G?
Horrible game. We only hit the front at the 16min mark of the last quarter and nobody scored after that.
Essendon won that game everywhere but the scoreboard.
I wasn’t in the country at the time but that looks like the game.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2 ... 60715.html


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980275Post Beno88 »

I'm still getting over Robert Harvey only polling 2 votes in 1994.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980278Post spert »

Our player votes falling away after the bye really did show something horribly wrong at the club. Looking forward to the results of the review.


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980280Post WellardSaint »

1971 wrote: Sun 18 Sep 2022 10:57pm Crazy that someone like Wilkie could finish with one vote if your polling is right. Even with the award being biased towards midfielders that is still neglectful.
36 players on the ground, + the bench.

Voting: 3, 2, 1

Impossible to get a fair spread.

No more umps votes.
Get a panel of former players to give votes of 1 through to 10.

That might be more equitable


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980281Post shanegrambeau »

Hanners has the last laugh.

Matches Marshall’s contribution for the year in one game.

What a way to go out!

Ya think he was pushed out at the end?


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Re: Brownlow! Sinclair or Steele for the most votes?

Post: # 1980282Post Life Long Saint »

WellardSaint wrote: Mon 19 Sep 2022 12:04pm No more umps votes.
Get a panel of former players to give votes of 1 through to 10.

That might be more equitable
Why?
The Brownlow Medal is the Umpire's award.
There are many player awards voted by the media, the coaches, and the players themselves.

Not one defender, forward, or ruckman has won those.

Midfielders filled the first six spots on the Coaches award. Jeremy Cameron finished 7th.
https://aflcoaches.com.au/awards/the-af ... 2/20220123

The AFLPA MVP top four were midfielders. Jeremy Cameron finished 5th.

Seems that none of the "experts" can get it right.

What it tells me is how much emphasis is placed on good midfielders in today's game.


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