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Rubyjo wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 9:59pm
Need to do it ..need to show a nice humanistic side to our club ..people first . Tie up up loose ends and move on to 2023
Probably right but as Mc G said both are not legends & IMO their on field performances at St.Kilda have been mediocre at best but yeah whatever
Yeah but much loved team mates..need to farewell saints players and not just f*** them off as supporters want .. honour all players in a dead rubber .
Fair call I don't have a problem with it just saying Mc G had a point
MC Gusto wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 9:11pm
What does it say for club culture, throwing in the white flag to Sydney, giving guys testimonial send offs for players that have basically given nothing to the club.
Don’t get me wrong. Not their fault they were picked, nor their fault they were not good enough or injured. But what are we actually perpetuating as a club basically giving up and throwing a couple of blokes a game? It’s not like they’re club champions. Again, not their fault but as a club this just shows a sense of defeat and ongoing mediocrity
Just my two cents
Hanners is in the side because he is best 22 even if is only playing at half pace. Kent is picked as medi sub to get him over the line for 100 games because he is capable and popular guy amongst the squad. He deserves it despite the hatred from Saintsational. As a general observation on Saintsational the most hated players are generally our small forwards which also happens to be the most difficult position. I suspect the people hating never played football at a decent level so simply do not understand.
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
Are you seriously suggesting that he wasn’t pushed.
And I don’t hate Kent…
I just don’t rate him
You bang on about Kent so much i think you have to accept you hate him, only 1 more game and then he's gone.
I think you will find another to vent on, it may be your nature.
Prior to this week I haven’t posted about him for a while
And I’ve never attacked him personally. Never suggested he was a bad block, or disliked etc
Have only ever criticised his performance.
I didn’t start this thread either… just agreed with it
You seem to want to make things personal
Just pointing out that when Kent's name comes up i've noticed you're one of the first to pot him, i understand bias is hard to contain, i also understand his retirement will end it.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
B.M wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 11:41pm
Did Kent NEVER play a decent game of AFL footy?
You can't play 100 games of AFL if you are completely shite as some on here suggest.
Can you play 99?
if you get to 100 what do you think ? Maths not your strong point.
What I meant to imply - we oughta have left him on 99 games. He's no champion and not even home-grown. I've no sentimental feeling for the bloke at all.
B.M wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 11:41pm
Did Kent NEVER play a decent game of AFL footy?
You can't play 100 games of AFL if you are completely shite as some on here suggest.
Can you play 99?
if you get to 100 what do you think ? Maths not your strong point.
What I meant to imply - we oughta have left him on 99 games. He's no champion and not even home-grown. I've no sentimental feeling for the bloke at all.
1 more week and he'll be gone, no sentiment required i would think.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
Are you seriously suggesting that he wasn’t pushed.
And I don’t hate Kent…
I just don’t rate him
You bang on about Kent so much i think you have to accept you hate him, only 1 more game and then he's gone.
I think you will find another to vent on, it may be your nature.
Prior to this week I haven’t posted about him for a while
And I’ve never attacked him personally. Never suggested he was a bad block, or disliked etc
Have only ever criticised his performance.
I didn’t start this thread either… just agreed with it
You seem to want to make things personal
Just pointing out that when Kent's name comes up i've noticed you're one of the first to pot him, i understand bias is hard to contain, i also understand his retirement will end it.
I’m not sure you do identify bias.
How about you point out what you don’t agree with.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
Are you seriously suggesting that he wasn’t pushed.
And I don’t hate Kent…
I just don’t rate him
You bang on about Kent so much i think you have to accept you hate him, only 1 more game and then he's gone.
I think you will find another to vent on, it may be your nature.
Prior to this week I haven’t posted about him for a while
And I’ve never attacked him personally. Never suggested he was a bad block, or disliked etc
Have only ever criticised his performance.
I didn’t start this thread either… just agreed with it
You seem to want to make things personal
Just pointing out that when Kent's name comes up i've noticed you're one of the first to pot him, i understand bias is hard to contain, i also understand his retirement will end it.
I’m not sure you do identify bias.
How about you point out what you don’t agree with.
Tiresome now isn't it.
I think this is the denial phase so i'm happy to leave it there.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
Are you seriously suggesting that he wasn’t pushed.
And I don’t hate Kent…
I just don’t rate him
You bang on about Kent so much i think you have to accept you hate him, only 1 more game and then he's gone.
I think you will find another to vent on, it may be your nature.
Prior to this week I haven’t posted about him for a while
And I’ve never attacked him personally. Never suggested he was a bad block, or disliked etc
Have only ever criticised his performance.
I didn’t start this thread either… just agreed with it
You seem to want to make things personal
Just pointing out that when Kent's name comes up i've noticed you're one of the first to pot him, i understand bias is hard to contain, i also understand his retirement will end it.
I’m not sure you do identify bias.
How about you point out what you don’t agree with.
Tiresome now isn't it.
I think this is the denial phase so i'm happy to leave it there.
Meh.
At least when I fire a shot... I fire a shot. The argument is made, the reasons are stood by. Heck at this point the evidence speaks for itself.
Course your happy to leave it there. It’s comfortable on the fence. Nice and safe. Don’t want to leave yourself open.
Rubyjo wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 9:59pm
Need to do it ..need to show a nice humanistic side to our club ..people first . Tie up up loose ends and move on to 2023
You having a lend here or what?
This is the AFL, not the little league.
Everyone should have to earn a game every week by performance.
Checks notes……Kent does bugger all at Sandringham and is gifted a game.
Pretty embarrassing and an indictment on the standards at the club.
Rubyjo wrote: ↑Fri 19 Aug 2022 9:59pm
Need to do it ..need to show a nice humanistic side to our club ..people first . Tie up up loose ends and move on to 2023
You having a lend here or what?
This is the AFL, not the little league.
Everyone should have to earn a game every week by performance.
Checks notes……Kent does bugger all at Sandringham and is gifted a game.
Pretty embarrassing and an indictment on the standards at the club.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.
Are you seriously suggesting that he wasn’t pushed.
And I don’t hate Kent…
I just don’t rate him
You bang on about Kent so much i think you have to accept you hate him, only 1 more game and then he's gone.
I think you will find another to vent on, it may be your nature.
Prior to this week I haven’t posted about him for a while
And I’ve never attacked him personally. Never suggested he was a bad block, or disliked etc
Have only ever criticised his performance.
I didn’t start this thread either… just agreed with it
You seem to want to make things personal
Just pointing out that when Kent's name comes up i've noticed you're one of the first to pot him, i understand bias is hard to contain, i also understand his retirement will end it.
I’m not sure you do identify bias.
How about you point out what you don’t agree with.
Tiresome now isn't it.
I think this is the denial phase so i'm happy to leave it there.
Meh.
At least when I fire a shot... I fire a shot. The argument is made, the reasons are stood by. Heck at this point the evidence speaks for itself.
Course your happy to leave it there. It’s comfortable on the fence. Nice and safe. Don’t want to leave yourself open.
How can i continue to debate with someone who has displayed his hatred for Dean Kent since round 1 and then continually denies it. it's pointless, nothing to do with fences. Re read your posts.
Meh.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
Selection integrity is important for culture at a football club, and sadly I believe St Kilda has compromised it's integrity quite frequently this year.
Toy Saint wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 2:39am
Selection integrity is important for culture at a football club, and sadly I believe St Kilda has compromised it's integrity quite frequently this year.
Quietly. Why do we want to play finals? Fluke a win first week, get smashed the second and receive a top 6 draw in 2023?
Season is what is was. Give the players a send off, win and 9th great or lose and finish 10/11 then reload for next year.
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 20 Aug 2022 12:12am
Hannebery has not played a full game this year. Selected for 2... hasn’t made it past the 3rd quarter yet
Kent is not retiring... he’s being delisted. Has played at Sandy since rd1 and not once has he pushed for selection. Absolutely nowhere near earning a spot based on form.
I get that he’s well liked at the club... that much is plain for all to see but what exactly are we celebrating here?
Why not give Joyce a fair well game? He’s been on the list for 7 odd years.
Bytel... sure, throw one his way... that’s been 4 years or something.
Where does this end if it’s not even close to merit?
We’re not talking about Geary or Ryder who have had excellent AFL careers...
It’s farcical to take a player like Kent, reward his poor form ahead of other players doing the work, lift him of the shoulders and parade him around and say... we know you’re maligned but thanks for trying.
That sends a really bad message about us as a club and what we’re willing to accept.
They’re laughing at us. And the fact that Kent is 1million times the footballer that I will ever be is not a valid point.