Goal kicking again

[older saint]

Once again our foot skills nearly bit us Saturday. The inability to kick goals nearly cost us. Last qtr scoring shots were similar , however we only kicked 1 goal which left the door open for Hawthorn.

2 comments :
- across the league i watch the good kicks for goal get there hands set and then walk in and kick . They don't spin the ball as they walk in and therefore the ball is held exactly as it should be. King is a shocker at this and his inconsistency in goal kicking i feel is partly reflective of this. Look at other sports involving hand eye. Bowlers set the ball in their hand before running in, rugby set the ball exactly for a field goal or extra point,etc. To me it removes one of the variables.

- a wise coach once said practise doesn't make perfect- perfect practise makes perfect!. No use practising 100 shots at goal if you are doing the wrong things over and over. 20 shots of the correct technique and how the "perfect" kick for that person is so much more valuable. Do we do that?

This cost us a flag in 2009, i just winder how much time is put into the most important part of the game - don't score you cant win.

[saynta]

Once again our foot skills nearly bit us Saturday. The inability to kick goals nearly cost us. Last qtr scoring shots were similar , however we only kicked 1 goal which left the door open for Hawthorn.

2 comments :
- across the league i watch the good kicks for goal get there hands set and then walk in and kick . They don't spin the ball as they walk in and therefore the ball is held exactly as it should be. King is a shocker at this and his inconsistency in goal kicking i feel is partly reflective of this. Look at other sports involving hand eye. Bowlers set the ball in their hand before running in, rugby set the ball exactly for a field goal or extra point,etc. To me it removes one of the variables.

- a wise coach once said practise doesn't make perfect- perfect practise makes perfect!. No use practising 100 shots at goal if you are doing the wrong things over and over. 20 shots of the correct technique and how the "perfect" kick for that person is so much more valuable. Do we do that?

This cost us a flag in 2009, i just winder how much time is put into the most important part of the game - don't score you cant win.

Players spinning the ball walking into kick at goal drives me bananas. You are spot on with your comments.

[Sanctorum]

It's hard to say if spinning the ball is necessarily a factor when a player misses a set shot for goal - for example in yesterday's thriller between Lions and Tigers Jack Riewoldt spun the ball while lining up to slot the ball through the big sticks from a tight spot on the boundary 40 metres out, didn't even look down at his hands to place the ball laces up as he ran in.

A lot of players, not just Saints, have this habit - maybe it betrays nervousness, who knows.

On Saturday King was once again off the boil, been that way in most games this year. Higgins is another one who's lost his way in front of goals.

Those misses are real "coach killers" and has cost the team dearly because in reality St Kilda should have put Hawthorn away by half time. Inaccuracy in shooting for goal may well cost our team a spot in the finals. The irony is that if the players had been more accurate and consolidated a spot in the finals supporters wouldn't be calling for Ratten's blood.

[Vortex]

This is about Kingy yeah

[CURLY]

This is about Kingy yeah

Membrey was the biggest culprit.

[Vortex]

This is about Kingy yeah

Membrey was the biggest culprit.

Yeah he was, Kingy was the selfish one this week. Will probably have to throw 50 bucks in the tin for end of season or take the dare.

[Scollop]

It wasn’t just ‘Goal Kicking’

It was ‘Decision Making’

Our forwards need to think ‘team’ and not just playing for themselves and for individual glory.

Just before 3/4 time, Mason Wood went off at Max for holding on to the footy and not dishing it off when he was about to get tackled. Not sure how Wood would have gone on his non-preferred but at least it might have been a shot at goal.

In the last quarter it was King again who thought he was a good chance to kick the goal from 55m out and he ignored a lead from Long and a lead from Membrey. I can understand him ignoring Long, because Long was in the pocket and on the wrong side for a right footer, but Membrey’s lead was more directly in front and an easier shot for goal. King ended up with a behind.

The other one was late in the game when Mitch Owens took a mark (it was a good pass from Max) and Mitch could have played on quickly and given it off to Ben Long, who again worked hard to provide an opportunity for an easier avenue to goal. Owens ignored Long who was running free of his opponent and there was no one between Long and the goals. Mitch missed the set shot ….and then came the Hawks avalanche

The game can turn quickly. It’s so important to make the most of your inside 50’s. We were dominating and should have been a lot further in front. I think winning form is good form and I’m sure they’ll work better as a team next week

[wally]

I was watching one of those expert shows on TV (cant remember which one) and someone said when referring to another team or Clarko and said "should they follow the model like Hawthorn did (years ago ) and get someone like Rath in to fix up their kicking?". FFS is that what he is supposed to be doing at our club ,if so>>>>>>>>>fail.
After Dixon was supposed to fix it.

[spert]

I was watching one of those expert shows on TV (cant remember which one) and someone said when referring to another team or Clarko and said "should they follow the model like Hawthorn did (years ago ) and get someone like Rath in to fix up their kicking?". FFS is that what he is supposed to be doing at our club ,if so>>>>>>>>>fail.
After Dixon was supposed to fix it.

The Saints could save money and not bother with hiring anyone to fix the kicking- wouldn't make much difference.

[saynta]

Those misses are real "coach killers" and has cost the team dearly because in reality St Kilda should have put Hawthorn away by half time.

That is exactly what Mitchell said.

[Life Long Saint]

- a wise coach once said practise doesn't make perfect- perfect practise makes perfect!. No use practising 100 shots at goal if you are doing the wrong things over and over. 20 shots of the correct technique and how the "perfect" kick for that person is so much more valuable. Do we do that?

Don't practice something until you get it right. Practice it until you can't get it wrong.

[D.B.Cooper]

The best set shot goal kickers I have seen, not necessarily in order after Plugger #1.

1. Lockett
2. McKenna
3. Quinlan
4. Hudson

All slightly different, Plugger walking step, Bernie a jog, McKenna stabs it more, Hudson crabs in but all do the following consistently...

1. Hold the ball still and don't twirl it and f#ck around with it
2. Head over the ball and kicking leg
3. Walk/ job/ crab in a straight line with where they want to kick it
4. Consistent ball drop as close to their foot as possible

Surely this simple but effective approach can be taught?

[spert]

King's first shot at goal against the Hawks was pretty straightforward, but although looked like he kicked the ball ok, it went out on the full- there is something flawed with his approach that needs ironing out. Players like Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson etc, really put their heads over the ball and didn't deviate or move around- you could put a ruler straight through their kicking line of approach to the middle of the goal right up to contact with the foot. King is lifting his head too much just before contact by foot I think...