The class of Hannebery
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Interesting wrinkle. Never for one moment did I imagine that Hanners playing as well as he did would be an excuse for some on here to turn it into a negative by saying he showed how much the rest of our list sucked.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Anybody know Dan's last quarter stats? Was he cooked or going ok? It's a bit of a blur to me?
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Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
Re: The class of Hannebery
With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Re Hunter . Haphazard is an understatement his first 4 disposals were atrocious don't get me wrong I love the blokes courage & effort but in the first quarter he was a liability . Got a little better in the second half but hardly got off the chain IMOKilla wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 9:31pm With all the focus on Hannebery, who is overlooked is Clark
His disposal early was haphazard at best but he corrected that and had an impact
Clark has missed much footy over this season and recent seasons - and he has been a loss
Notable also were the times Windhager was in the centre square albeit tagging
IMO Steele has taken time to regain confidence and form after his shoulder problems
It was also notable that Hawthorn made a belated iMO move to push McEvoy forward to expose our lack of height, we only having King and Marshall and Lienert over 193cm (then having lost a tall forward to injury)
The reason for Sharman back is his 193cm and his leap which saw some crucial spoils He gets his fist to balls and has pace
Liernert was alternatively on a wing or rucking at centre bounces
I noted also that twice in the last quarter when Hawthorn scored from the goal line it was Ross exposed as our last line defender
Ross sometimes lacks “chase pace” and flexibility in movement (he is not a natural grab it and go player hence props and stands as he often does)
Also players attracted to the contest and causing the spillages we saw resulted in Ross having no support
No doubt that will be reviewed
However, in the fuller equation we kept them to 1 first half goal - and off the back of that effort it should have been game done at half time
Scoring shots over the second half were about equal - so more opportunities missed
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Hunter .... coming off shattered jaw, shattered nose, busted shoulder .... 3 separate serious incidents
Me thinks we should give him a little more time
Me thinks we should give him a little more time
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Re: The class of Hannebery
If there is excuses for sub par performance
Ie coming back from injury
Then he should be in the VFL
Because once he steps over the line in the AFL - he is meant to be physically and mentally ready!
So that’s on the match committee
Ie coming back from injury
Then he should be in the VFL
Because once he steps over the line in the AFL - he is meant to be physically and mentally ready!
So that’s on the match committee
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Well they got it right as he was very good as the game went on.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
This.
I’m pretty sure half the Nancy’s on here would give the game away completely if they had of suffered even one of these injuries
I am in awe of the courage of this man, he is an excellent footballer and has been said give him time.
Re: The class of Hannebery
Clark is just too good to be playing VFL, other than on (severely, so 60% as a figure) limited game time as a part of recovery.
And the description was "haphazard at best"
The meaning of that description being exactly as described.
Hannebery was on limited time, so frequently on the Interchange including for much of the last quarter particularly the last 15 minutes because of cramp.
After he passed to King, he was immediately off (as an example).
Looked at the result of the delivery, and then straight to the bench.
And the description was "haphazard at best"
The meaning of that description being exactly as described.
Hannebery was on limited time, so frequently on the Interchange including for much of the last quarter particularly the last 15 minutes because of cramp.
After he passed to King, he was immediately off (as an example).
Looked at the result of the delivery, and then straight to the bench.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
That's an interesting call saynta, would you care to elaborate on this judgment?
It would be great if he indeed turns out as good as Hannebery but from the 16 games I have seen Bytel play so far he has not really showed a hell of lot, even taking into account the chronic injuries that have bugged him since his debut in 2020.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Has the same lightening quick hands and footballing nous. Both not overly quick, but know how to win the ball.Also both are courageous and tough as nails.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Mon 01 Aug 2022 10:43amThat's an interesting call saynta, would you care to elaborate on this judgment?
It would be great if he indeed turns out as good as Hannebery but from the 16 games I have seen Bytel play so far he has not really showed a hell of lot, even taking into account the chronic injuries that have bugged him since his debut in 2020.
Bytel just need a chance otherwise we will lose him.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
I died on a football field once and was playing the next week. I never paid for a beer at my local after that.The Fireman wrote: ↑Mon 01 Aug 2022 9:38amThis.
I’m pretty sure half the Nancy’s on here would give the game away completely if they had of suffered even one of these injuries
I am in awe of the courage of this man, he is an excellent footballer and has been said give him time.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Hannebery was an elite runner in his peak with Sydney and very good by foot.saynta wrote: ↑Mon 01 Aug 2022 10:50amHas the same lightening quick hands and footballing nous. Both not overly quick, but know how to win the ball.Also both are courageous and tough as nails.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Mon 01 Aug 2022 10:43amThat's an interesting call saynta, would you care to elaborate on this judgment?
It would be great if he indeed turns out as good as Hannebery but from the 16 games I have seen Bytel play so far he has not really showed a hell of lot, even taking into account the chronic injuries that have bugged him since his debut in 2020.
Bytel just need a chance otherwise we will lose him.
I don’t see that in Bytel.
Very good inside hands.
I hope I am wrong but I see more a Charlie Constable than Dan Hannebery in Bytel.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Remember that last season Dunstan was dropped because we had Bytel and preferred to expose Bytel
And Bytel played well, including hitting the scoreboard (which you really want your mids to do).
The expectation was that he would continue in 2022
But, once again, injuries have impacted.
Given a full pre-season and an uninterrupted season, I would expect Bytel to consolidate in our 22.
The question is at whose expense?
Ahead of any Trading (and Drafting) we have the likes of Jones, Gresham, Wanganeen-Milera, Byrnes, Billings and McKenzie hunting down midfield/wing positions.
And Steele, Hill, Crouch, Owens, Windhager, Hannebery, Ross, Wood and even Lienert and Long in the 22.
Then you could introduce Sinclair to a midfield/wing role given Clark and Coffield being available.
What we need in our mid-field is additional leg speed both defence and attack, so closing down and carrying the ball forward by genuine straight line leg speed.
And Bytel played well, including hitting the scoreboard (which you really want your mids to do).
The expectation was that he would continue in 2022
But, once again, injuries have impacted.
Given a full pre-season and an uninterrupted season, I would expect Bytel to consolidate in our 22.
The question is at whose expense?
Ahead of any Trading (and Drafting) we have the likes of Jones, Gresham, Wanganeen-Milera, Byrnes, Billings and McKenzie hunting down midfield/wing positions.
And Steele, Hill, Crouch, Owens, Windhager, Hannebery, Ross, Wood and even Lienert and Long in the 22.
Then you could introduce Sinclair to a midfield/wing role given Clark and Coffield being available.
What we need in our mid-field is additional leg speed both defence and attack, so closing down and carrying the ball forward by genuine straight line leg speed.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Bytel has missed a ton of football. Missed half of this season due to injury. It's true he's got very good hands and is tough. HIs speed? Hmmm...not so sure. Looks a little slow to me, but then again, a big pre-season could remedy that to some point. Players look slow when their aerobic fitness isn't where it needs to be. He's got some stiff competition now, which is good, as it will drive him.
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Re: The class of Hannebery
Judging by the way he was running in the last quarter, I reckon Hannas is sore and will struggle to get up against the Cats
It will be a miracle if he can recover and play that well again this year.