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Re: Ben Long. Furious
I disagree. Teams frequently get rattled when relentless pressure is applied. Deer in headlights, worried out of the ball, nowhere to go etc. Use a different word if you like. Bring it on.
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Yeah I think we’re playing word games here
Scared in this context doesn’t mean fear for your life or even reduced ferocity at the contest…
It essentially refers to making mistakes under pressure and being harassed
Watch us vs Essendon…
Actual pressure or perceived, on numerous occasions we kicked into the man on the mark, really butchered kicks and dropped handball receives.
We actually don’t have a ton of players that do that level of contest harassment well.
Dmac pbly the best at it along with Wood, Long and Lienert quite good.
Windy is promising
Scared in this context doesn’t mean fear for your life or even reduced ferocity at the contest…
It essentially refers to making mistakes under pressure and being harassed
Watch us vs Essendon…
Actual pressure or perceived, on numerous occasions we kicked into the man on the mark, really butchered kicks and dropped handball receives.
We actually don’t have a ton of players that do that level of contest harassment well.
Dmac pbly the best at it along with Wood, Long and Lienert quite good.
Windy is promising
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
So are you suggesting that players effectiveness levels are the same when they are under threat of physical duress as when they aren'tB.M wrote: ↑Sat 30 Jul 2022 4:19am Sorry to bust your bubble
Few if any, if they reach that level are scared on a footy ground
To be drafted, you need to be a star junior or state league player
Doesn’t happen if you’re scared
A 181cm 79kg Ben Long aint scaring many/any AFL players
He might pressure them, he might lay a big tackle or two - but that happens in footy
Does David McKay scare anyone? Because he put Hunter Clark in hospital - nope - not even Hunter
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Long was dropped this year for lack of pressure
But agree, he is hard at it and provides intensity
But agree, he is hard at it and provides intensity
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Looking good tonight so far ![👍](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f44d.svg)
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Long was furious with King a few times today.
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
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Long was furious with King a few times today.
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Long was furious with King a few times today.
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Long was ok IMO just needs to keep composure under pressure & make better choices but was handy
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
14 possessions 0 goals
That ok offensively
9 tackles
Very good defensively
Overall - good game
That ok offensively
9 tackles
Very good defensively
Overall - good game
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
A couple of Ben's team mates actually kicked the ball to him today. Nice change.
We still have some very selfish footballers though.
We still have some very selfish footballers though.
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
He was clean today, didn’t fumble
Looked positive, lead up to the ball
For me played a good game, reckon his best for the year
When he doesn’t fumble he is good
Looked positive, lead up to the ball
For me played a good game, reckon his best for the year
When he doesn’t fumble he is good
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Agree! Tends to lose his footing a bit too much. A pity because when he doesn't his tackles stick.
Totally agree with every time he paid out on King. Those sprays should also be coming from the coach IMO. King turned the game in the last quarter, unfortunately the wrong way.
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Same thing happened in the last quarter with Mason Wood. Hawks had a turnover in the middle and we had a couple of players free running towards or goals. Usually it's Higgins or Butler running hard towards goal but this time it was LongBanger9798 wrote: ↑Sat 30 Jul 2022 8:49pm Long was furious with King a few times today.
Reckon he thinks Max was not honouring leads
Wood had the footy on the wing just forward of centre and he had a choice of Long running directly towards the goal (dead in front) about 35 m out or he could hit up King (who was running towards the boundary but a lot further out from goal).
King was a bit closer towards Wood, so it was the easier of the two kicks but the wrong option if you wanted to maximise our chances for a team goal. Long gets burned and Wood hit up King who had a difficult shot from 50-55 metres out. King missed. I think that brought Kings tally 'to 2-5 for the afternoon
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Sebby honoured Ben's leads a few times.
Not sure why others don't but obviously there is an element of selfishness and favouritism which is not going to hold us in good stead if we make finals
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
I saw Longy really do his block today right in front of us when his lead wasn't honoured.
The forward missed of course.
Love Longy - reckon he is a natural footballer who works hard!
A ripper!!
The forward missed of course.
Love Longy - reckon he is a natural footballer who works hard!
A ripper!!
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Speaking about doing his block...did you see the incident with CJ from Hawthorn who was trying to ruffle Long's feathers?samuraisaint wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 12:39am I saw Longy really do his block today right in front of us when his lead wasn't honoured.
The forward missed of course.
Love Longy - reckon he is a natural footballer who works hard!
A ripper!!
Long took the hit and took the jumper punches without retaliating. Good sign of maturity for the young fella Benny
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
I reckon Long seems to be fitter now.
Just seems to run out games with intensity.
Hope that happens for Clark - thought he'd done a back injury today. Thank God he got up
Just seems to run out games with intensity.
Hope that happens for Clark - thought he'd done a back injury today. Thank God he got up
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Clark is possibly the toughest / hardest footballer we have at the club, all due respect to Steele & Co..Banger9798 wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 1:11am I reckon Long seems to be fitter now.
Just seems to run out games with intensity.
Hope that happens for Clark - thought he'd done a back injury today. Thank God he got up
I don't subscribe to the diatribe he's not AFL fit, that's a slight on him or our fitness staff. Give him a year+ without a serious injury and we'll see some magic from the lad.
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Yes!!!Ghost Like wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 1:31amClark is possibly the toughest / hardest footballer we have at the club, all due respect to Steele & Co..Banger9798 wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 1:11am I reckon Long seems to be fitter now.
Just seems to run out games with intensity.
Hope that happens for Clark - thought he'd done a back injury today. Thank God he got up
I don't subscribe to the diatribe he's not AFL fit, that's a slight on him or our fitness staff. Give him a year+ without a serious injury and we'll see some magic from the lad.
So happy to see Hunter up and about.
He isn't built like Windhager, but very few of us are. I happen to put both of them to shame, but nevermind.
And special mention to Long and his banana...
And Hill, quiet game, but I see him instrumental in three goals tonight, and we won by two..
Damn it..our damn forward line....
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
I’ll tell you straight
Clark is NOT as fit as he could or should be
He doesn’t finish even close to the top half of the runner at the club in time trials.
He is a great player, courageous and skilful
But a good runner, he is NOT!!!
He doesn’t need to hit the gym - he needs to hit the pavement
He could be an elite player imo if he was (Sinclair or Ross fit)
I reckon he could reach Steele Sidebottom levels - but in current shape he’s just handy and plays his best in the easiest position on the ground
Clark is NOT as fit as he could or should be
He doesn’t finish even close to the top half of the runner at the club in time trials.
He is a great player, courageous and skilful
But a good runner, he is NOT!!!
He doesn’t need to hit the gym - he needs to hit the pavement
He could be an elite player imo if he was (Sinclair or Ross fit)
I reckon he could reach Steele Sidebottom levels - but in current shape he’s just handy and plays his best in the easiest position on the ground
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Re: Ben Long. Furious
Good post.B.M wrote: ↑Sun 31 Jul 2022 5:39am I’ll tell you straight
Clark is NOT as fit as he could or should be
He doesn’t finish even close to the top half of the runner at the club in time trials.
He is a great player, courageous and skilful
But a good runner, he is NOT!!!
He doesn’t need to hit the gym - he needs to hit the pavement
He could be an elite player imo if he was (Sinclair or Ross fit)
I reckon he could reach Steele Sidebottom levels - but in current shape he’s just handy and plays his best in the easiest position on the ground
I agree Hunter’s running capacity is nowhere near elite.
Sinclair was always a decent runner who is now very good, Ross achieved it through hard work & volume and it probably took 5-6 pre-seasons to build and Sidebottom always had elite endurance.
Hunter is more like Ross that he needs to get the work into his legs. The issue is we don’t know his situation in regard to groins, calves, hammys and how his body copes with load. He may well be a slower build.
Pretty sure the club fitness and conditioning staff would be all over this.
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