I have seen your post and it’s a blueprint for disaster, bereft of any knowledge about how an organisation succeeds,SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:40pmIt doesn't necessarily need to be GT but I hope someone calls a spill of the board. Bassat has done nothing for us. At the end of the day I don't really think the coach is the problem. It is the recruiting path/philosophy that has brought us to our knees. Our obsession with recruiting players from other teams and overpaying in salary cap and draft picks has ruined us. As a result of this strategy we don't have enough good youngsters coming through and already the older players are that we have brought in are retiring or close to it.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:25pmThere has been many posts on here, by a certain forum member, of the need to remove the Board, Senior Management, Head Coach and Coaching Staff at the St Kilda Football Club and to have Grant Thomas take over control of the Club.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:13pmThere are other posters that are saying the same thing as I amSunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:04pmWhy am I ruining this site? Just because you don't agree with my post you sook to the moderators. Place me on your Ignore list and don't read my posts.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 9:57pmModerators do something, Sunny Ernie is wrecking this site.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 9:41pm Bassat, Lethlean and Gags are the worst thing that has ever happened to us. We have 60,000 members this year. Next year will lose half of them.
I was a GT fan and was astounded at his sacking which may have cost us a Premiership. It certainly set the Club back.
But there are many reasons why treating GT like a messiah and calling for him to take over the club are ill-founded and lack any sense of understanding of how complex organisations need to work.
The Board cannot be removed by GT turning up on Monday. There are procedures in the Club’s Constitution that determine how the Board is established and how Board Members are appointed. The primary function of the Board is the Governance of the organisation. This means the rules that are established that determine how the Club is run. The Club must be run legally, ethically and morally in a professional manner. It must be a financial going concern. It has the responsibility to provide a safe working environment for its employees and many other duties.
It just cannot be removed at the whim of anyone.
The Board of the Club is doing a good job.
Good Boards of management that do their job provide stability and this is of paramount importance to our sponsors and creditors. Can you imagine whet their response would be to a GT coup?
Firstly, we would risk losing our current sponsors and it would certainly make it very hard to attract new ones.
Creditors might call in loans. I think the AFL is our biggest creditor and given GT’s chequered history with the AFL Management, there response might be somewhat nervous.
We are all unhappy with our on-field performances but to call for the wholesale sacking of the board, coaching staff and senior management would set our club back years.
To hope to go back to an era that is now over 16 years ago is just silly. People need to move on.
I believe what SunnyErnie constantly calls for would bring about the collapse of our Club.
At the end of the day, money talks and bullsh*t walks, so Ernie it’s time that you put your shoes on and went walking.
What you want is not going to happen.
Carlisle retired, Ryder is almost 35 and should not be offered another contract. All he is doing is denying Heath exposure. Nothing against Ryder but he is too old. Hill that we paid a fortune in cap $$$ and draft picks is already 29. It' our recruiting philosophy that has stuffed us.
Maybe have a look at Post titled "My Blueprint for success". It might seem far fetched but at least it will give us a chance of challenging in about 5 years time.
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If the AFL were the subject of a movie script, nobody would believe the sad n sorry club called St Kilda.
It would need to be given a flag every 20 yrs or so to be believable.
No club in reality could be this bad.
It would need to be given a flag every 20 yrs or so to be believable.
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It's why we get shafted with games in Cairns, etc.
I imagine Gill doing a zoom call with the Pies, Blues, Tigers, etc...telling them jokes about the Saints.
The Tigers and Pies tell him 'we ain't playing at the Cattery, Gil"
Gil says 'thank god for St Kilda then look guys, we all know the story, I'll make up a plausible reason for the Saints to have their draw, you guys play along, yeah?'
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Then I suggest you practice what you preach.
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And what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
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Go away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
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Do you know what a fan forum is Happy?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:21pmGo away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
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We are just irrelevant - that is all!WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 10:59pmIt's why we get shafted with games in Cairns, etc.
I imagine Gill doing a zoom call with the Pies, Blues, Tigers, etc...telling them jokes about the Saints.
The Tigers and Pies tell him 'we ain't playing at the Cattery, Gil"
Gil says 'thank god for St Kilda then look guys, we all know the story, I'll make up a plausible reason for the Saints to have their draw, you guys play along, yeah?'
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Yes, I have been here a lot longer than you. You can bang on about free speech, opinions and all that. But with it comes a responsibility to post well thought out and informed posts. Ernie, you post I’ll-conceived thoughts that are neither insightful, constructive, informative or intelligent. This is where you draw the ire of many. It would be preferable if you performed in front of a mirror, just like a budgie.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:22pmDo you know what a fan forum is Happy?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:21pmGo away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
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Ernies got you rattled.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:32pmYes, I have been here a lot longer than you. You can bang on about free speech, opinions and all that. But with it comes a responsibility to post well thought out and informed posts. Ernie, you post I’ll-conceived thoughts that are neither insightful, constructive, informative or intelligent. This is where you draw the ire of many. It would be preferable if you performed in front of a mirror, just like a budgie.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:22pmDo you know what a fan forum is Happy?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:21pmGo away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Ernie is toxic and is fair game, for all I know Ernie is probably you.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:43pmErnies got you rattled.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:32pmYes, I have been here a lot longer than you. You can bang on about free speech, opinions and all that. But with it comes a responsibility to post well thought out and informed posts. Ernie, you post I’ll-conceived thoughts that are neither insightful, constructive, informative or intelligent. This is where you draw the ire of many. It would be preferable if you performed in front of a mirror, just like a budgie.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:22pmDo you know what a fan forum is Happy?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:21pmGo away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
Rugby League would have to be the stupidest, most moronic and over rated game of all time.
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Are you a drunk ?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:48pmErnie is toxic and is fair game, for all I know Ernie is probably you.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:43pmErnies got you rattled.happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:32pmYes, I have been here a lot longer than you. You can bang on about free speech, opinions and all that. But with it comes a responsibility to post well thought out and informed posts. Ernie, you post I’ll-conceived thoughts that are neither insightful, constructive, informative or intelligent. This is where you draw the ire of many. It would be preferable if you performed in front of a mirror, just like a budgie.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:22pmDo you know what a fan forum is Happy?happy feet wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:21pmGo away Ernie, and I KNOW, other posters are saying this.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Jul 2022 11:17pmAnd what gets me is that HF swears at posters he doesn't agree with yet the Moderators don't ban him
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
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I tried that, go and read my post, the lengthy one. But it doesn’t work with Ernie, it’s just sack the Board and bring back GT.B.M wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:59am Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
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this has a certain feel about it
talk about leading with your chin
talk about leading with your chin
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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No it’s not. I’m saying the board needs to be removed. I don’t care who does it as long as it happenshappy feet wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 10:39amI tried that, go and read my post, the lengthy one. But it doesn’t work with Ernie, it’s just sack the Board and bring back GT.B.M wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:59am Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
St Kilda should never trade with Essendon and Sydney ever again!!!
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Read my previous post on this Ernie. The Board just cannot be removed and if they were it would set our club back years. Firstly, our creditors would become very nervous. It might cost us our sponsorship deals and make future ones more difficult to obtain. The Board are doing a good job, it’s our players that are letting us down. Money runs football, money talks and bulls*** walks. Every time.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:30pmNo it’s not. I’m saying the board needs to be removed. I don’t care who does it as long as it happenshappy feet wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 10:39amI tried that, go and read my post, the lengthy one. But it doesn’t work with Ernie, it’s just sack the Board and bring back GT.B.M wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:59am Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
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Here you go Ernie, made it easy for you…….SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:30pmNo it’s not. I’m saying the board needs to be removed. I don’t care who does it as long as it happenshappy feet wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 10:39amI tried that, go and read my post, the lengthy one. But it doesn’t work with Ernie, it’s just sack the Board and bring back GT.B.M wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:59am Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
There has been many posts on here, by a certain forum member, of the need to remove the Board, Senior Management, Head Coach and Coaching Staff at the St Kilda Football Club and to have Grant Thomas take over control of the Club.
I was a GT fan and was astounded at his sacking which may have cost us a Premiership. It certainly set the Club back.
But there are many reasons why treating GT like a messiah and calling for him to take over the club are ill-founded and lack any sense of understanding of how complex organisations need to work.
The Board cannot be removed by GT turning up on Monday. There are procedures in the Club’s Constitution that determine how the Board is established and how Board Members are appointed. The primary function of the Board is the Governance of the organisation. This means the rules that are established that determine how the Club is run. The Club must be run legally, ethically and morally in a professional manner. It must be a financial going concern. It has the responsibility to provide a safe working environment for its employees and many other duties.
It just cannot be removed at the whim of anyone.
The Board of the Club is doing a good job.
Good Boards of management that do their job provide stability and this is of paramount importance to our sponsors and creditors. Can you imagine whet their response would be to a GT coup?
Firstly, we would risk losing our current sponsors and it would certainly make it very hard to attract new ones.
Creditors might call in loans. I think the AFL is our biggest creditor and given GT’s chequered history with the AFL Management, there response might be somewhat nervous.
We are all unhappy with our on-field performances but to call for the wholesale sacking of the board, coaching staff and senior management would set our club back years.
To hope to go back to an era that is now over 16 years ago is just silly. People need to move on.
I believe what SunnyErnie constantly calls for would bring about the collapse of our Club.
At the end of the day, money talks and bullsh*t walks, so Ernie it’s time that you put your shoes on and went walking.
What you want is not going to happen.
Rugby League would have to be the stupidest, most moronic and over rated game of all time.
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The board can be removed. All it takes is for someone to start a petition and call for a meeting. The Bassat board has failed miserably and has to go before more damage is donehappy feet wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:45pmRead my previous post on this Ernie. The Board just cannot be removed and if they were it would set our club back years. Firstly, our creditors would become very nervous. It might cost us our sponsorship deals and make future ones more difficult to obtain. The Board are doing a good job, it’s our players that are letting us down. Money runs football, money talks and bulls*** walks. Every time.SunnyErnie wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:30pmNo it’s not. I’m saying the board needs to be removed. I don’t care who does it as long as it happenshappy feet wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 10:39amI tried that, go and read my post, the lengthy one. But it doesn’t work with Ernie, it’s just sack the Board and bring back GT.B.M wrote: ↑Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:59am Who’s to say what’s well thought out?
It’s a fan forum full of passion and garbage generally written by uninformed ignoramus posters ( inc me)
And who cares?!
Anyone who thinks they are more important or impressive than the next is pretty arrogant imo
Don’t judge Ernie, if you’re so good debate the point he is making?!
St Kilda should never trade with Essendon and Sydney ever again!!!
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