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Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964343Post WellardSaint »

Our backline has done a lot right in our wins this year.
In our losses, our other guys were so bad that the backs couldn't hold back the floodwaters.

Ok, Boris must be doing a good job.
But...has he helped Dougal?
No.
Dougal is the worst full back ever.
He is slow off the mark, like a baby giraffe. Cannot kick in because his kicks get intercepted and they're hopeless.
He points angrily when his direct oppo takes a mark uncontested.
Boris needs to sort out Dougal as it's hurting the defence


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Re: Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964344Post meher baba »

Stupid post. Howard “worst fullback ever.” What a load of bollocks.


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Can we put Wilkie's brain/heart in to Howard's body?


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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WellardSaint wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 1:16pm Our backline has done a lot right in our wins this year.
In our losses, our other guys were so bad that the backs couldn't hold back the floodwaters.

Ok, Boris must be doing a good job.
But...has he helped Dougal?
No.
Dougal is the worst full back ever.
He is slow off the mark, like a baby giraffe. Cannot kick in because his kicks get intercepted and they're hopeless.
He points angrily when his direct oppo takes a mark uncontested.
Boris needs to sort out Dougal as it's hurting the defence
What a crock.


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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The hate for Howard on here is embarrassingly moronic


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Re: Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964351Post SaintPav »

I’ve been very frustrated watching Howard as well but I think his form has been impacted by our team defence or lack there of, particularly with lack of options up the ground which has caused him to prop, turn and look confused and run into a wall of opposition players. It’s not a great look but most likely not entirely his fault.


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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It starts with our midfield. Our defense has been exposed because of it


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I would def like to see Howard relinquish kick in duties

Give it to Sinclair


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skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:51pm I would def like to see Howard relinquish kick in duties

Give it to Sinclair
Howard is a much longer kick. And kicking it in puts him in the right position if it comes back quickly. So he should still take some: we need to mix it up.


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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meher baba wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 3:07pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:51pm I would def like to see Howard relinquish kick in duties

Give it to Sinclair
Howard is a much longer kick. And kicking it in puts him in the right position if it comes back quickly. So he should still take some: we need to mix it up.
But all he ever does is bomb long to contests. It’s his only move


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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Boris and Badenough


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skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 4:19pm
meher baba wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 3:07pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:51pm I would def like to see Howard relinquish kick in duties

Give it to Sinclair
Howard is a much longer kick. And kicking it in puts him in the right position if it comes back quickly. So he should still take some: we need to mix it up.
But all he ever does is bomb long to contests. It’s his only move

Who do you think is instructing him to do that?


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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He tried to play on after a mark or free kick.
Long giraffe legs wound up, and guy on mark had enough time to corrall, which forced DH onto his left foot, and the kick was atrocious.

Week before, he kicked-in towards Seb, but he telegraphed it so Hind was able to come from behind Seb, and outmark Seb.
Hind kicked a be-Hind so it was ok, but...
Howard continually makes Basil Fawlty mistakes. He stuffs up more often than not.


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Re: Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964365Post Devilhead »

Howard looks bad sometimes because he tries to bite off more than he can chew ..... he needs to keep it simple when he has the ball ..... just find an easy target and get back to the job of defending

Rarely teams teams score directly from kick ins so chipping around into the pockets from full back just allows a team time to set up in front of the ball ..... we need to move it quickly out from fullback and long to clear the defensive area giving time to set up our defense quickly again behind the kick and we should be setting up offensively for that long kick to the centre or wing

If the ball goes through the left hand behind area we go left out from full back ..... if goes to the right then we go right ..... hit the post down the middle ...... then change it every quarter to keep the opposition guessing ..... our players know beforehand where the play is going and set up for it quickly knowing in advance what the play will be .... if the opposition catch on then have a plan to change it up ..... its called having a gameplan and being able to modify when necessary

It also keeps our players heads in the game .... keeping them focused mentally ..... which seems to be a huge problem currently for us

Just throwing ideas out there cause we desperately need something


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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CURLY wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 4:36pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 4:19pm
meher baba wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 3:07pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:51pm I would def like to see Howard relinquish kick in duties

Give it to Sinclair
Howard is a much longer kick. And kicking it in puts him in the right position if it comes back quickly. So he should still take some: we need to mix it up.
But all he ever does is bomb long to contests. It’s his only move

Who do you think is instructing him to do that?
I’m not laying it on Howard per’se.

One can only work within their capability and Howard obviously can’t approach that situation and do what Sinclair, Hill even Webster etc

It’s fine if you want to move the ball forward long and quick on the odd occasions but by and large, we look terrible doing it. You go from having clean possession to a contest and we certainly don’t distinguish ourselves positively playing contested footy across HBF.

To take it a step further, we actually look atrocious doing it.

Whether it’s Howard trying to show leadership or instructions from the coach… it’s a terrible terrible strategy for us and one that IMO even the layman fan would advise against.


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Post: # 1964449Post Jacks Back »

Howard definitely is not the best full back in the league and would be close to 18th best.

Who is Boris?


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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cwrcyn wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:21pm The hate for Howard on here is embarrassingly moronic
Sadly like most of the internet we've got to the point where people get themselves so wound up on a topic they lose any sense of reason.

Exhibit A: Sharman the saviour
Exhibit B: Sack Ratts
Exhibit C: Howard is the word FB ever
Exhibit D: Membrey and Butler are no good

There is however usually a couple good posts every now and again that make it worth wading through this garbage.


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Jacks Back wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 11:09pm Howard definitely is not the best full back in the league and would be close to 18th best.

Who is Boris?
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Re: Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964482Post WellardSaint »

nostalgicsaint wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 11:20pm
cwrcyn wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:21pm The hate for Howard on here is embarrassingly moronic
Sadly like most of the internet we've got to the point where people get themselves so wound up on a topic they lose any sense of reason.

Exhibit A: Sharman the saviour
Exhibit B: Sack Ratts
Exhibit C: Howard is the word FB ever
Exhibit D: Membrey and Butler are no good

There is however usually a couple good posts every now and again that make it worth wading through this garbage.
This is a forum.
Complain to the mods if you like.
Or put me on your Foe list. So you don't see my posts


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Re: Boris and Dougal

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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 01 Jul 2022 12:55am
Or put me on your Foe list. So you don't see my posts
I put everybody on my foe list but I still see all your posts.


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ace wrote: Fri 01 Jul 2022 1:37am
WellardSaint wrote: Fri 01 Jul 2022 12:55am
Or put me on your Foe list. So you don't see my posts
I put everybody on my foe list but I still see all your posts.
Having just received a one week ban for racism -- which wasn't your first time -- it then probably wouldn't surprise you many on here don't care for your views much either.

Show us you are rehabilitated and offer an acknowledgement you understand the hurt you create with your rasism and offer a hear felt aopology.

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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 01 Jul 2022 12:55am
nostalgicsaint wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 11:20pm
cwrcyn wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:21pm The hate for Howard on here is embarrassingly moronic
Sadly like most of the internet we've got to the point where people get themselves so wound up on a topic they lose any sense of reason.

Exhibit A: Sharman the saviour
Exhibit B: Sack Ratts
Exhibit C: Howard is the word FB ever
Exhibit D: Membrey and Butler are no good

There is however usually a couple good posts every now and again that make it worth wading through this garbage.
This is a forum.
Complain to the mods if you like.
Or put me on your Foe list. So you don't see my posts
Nostalgicsaint makes a valid point. All reason and logic has been replaced with infantile moronic hysterical outbursts. Some people need to check the age on thier licence's.


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Re: Boris and Dougal

Post: # 1964494Post nostalgicsaint »

WellardSaint wrote: Fri 01 Jul 2022 12:55am
nostalgicsaint wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 11:20pm
cwrcyn wrote: Thu 30 Jun 2022 2:21pm The hate for Howard on here is embarrassingly moronic
Sadly like most of the internet we've got to the point where people get themselves so wound up on a topic they lose any sense of reason.

Exhibit A: Sharman the saviour
Exhibit B: Sack Ratts
Exhibit C: Howard is the word FB ever
Exhibit D: Membrey and Butler are no good

There is however usually a couple good posts every now and again that make it worth wading through this garbage.
This is a forum.
Complain to the mods if you like.
Or put me on your Foe list. So you don't see my posts
I'm happy to keep wading through.


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Has to be zero tolerance in line with communtiy sentiment.

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whilst understanding the (educational) aim
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