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Bad Starts

Post: # 1961957Post StPeter »

St Kilda has started poorly in nearly every game this year.

Even in some of our best wins the opposition has quickly scored the first couple of goals.

Surely the club needs to address the reason for this.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1961963Post spert »

Ask the coach- seems to be an issue getting the team to be switched on as a unit.


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Post: # 1961965Post Sainternist »

Yeah, we’ve been slow to get out of the blocks. Against the better teams, this is a worry. That first quarter versus the Dees was what cost us the game!


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Post: # 1962000Post CQ SAINT »

Trying to reflect on the positives, the game goes for 100+ minutes and we've won 8 of ours.
Good starts would be a big improvement, I agree.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962099Post Impatient Sainter »

Ratten puts them to sleep in the pre game address? There are simply no excuses for players not being a 100% ready to go at the start of games. Very poor coaching and pre game routines are the cause...


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Post: # 1962102Post Templar »

As an experiment maybe they could try swapping the pre-bounce yoga meditation with belting out a few choruses of High Voltage?


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962103Post Beno88 »

We've actually only been outscored by 17 points in the first 15 minutes of games this year.

But we've not led a single match for it's entirity. The last time we did so was Round 23 last year.


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Post: # 1962108Post StPeter »

Beno88 wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 12:55pm We've actually only been outscored by 17 points in the first 15 minutes of games this year.

But we've not led a single match for it's entirity. The last time we did so was Round 23 last year.
I would be interested to see the figure for say the first 5 minutes. Several games we have conceded the first 2 goals and in nearly all games the first goal.
My point is we haven't flown out of the blocks in any game that I can remember and usually it is the opposition that gains the early ascendancy.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962111Post loris »

Templar wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 12:21pm As an experiment maybe they could try swapping the pre-bounce yoga meditation with belting out a few choruses of High Voltage?
That’s been my thought. If the pre bounce breath meditation isn’t bring players into focus - ditch it.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962113Post Yorkeys »

A bad start is Port's 0 - 5.

A possibly more important couple of stats are final score and who scores more in the second half of games.

Very early on stuff is a bit of a raffle? in a game with two teams one has to score first, and that's only crucial in NRL golden point type situations (?).

Far better for supporters though if they could games to bed early.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962121Post Beno88 »

StPeter wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 1:40pm
Beno88 wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 12:55pm We've actually only been outscored by 17 points in the first 15 minutes of games this year.

But we've not led a single match for it's entirity. The last time we did so was Round 23 last year.
I would be interested to see the figure for say the first 5 minutes. Several games we have conceded the first 2 goals and in nearly all games the first goal.
My point is we haven't flown out of the blocks in any game that I can remember and usually it is the opposition that gains the early ascendancy.
In the first 5 minutes...
St Kilda 5.3.33
Opposition 7.5.47

Interestingly, St Kilda have held their opposition scoreless in the first five minutes 6 times in 2022, but have never had more than a single scoring shot in the opening five minutes.


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962264Post SaintPav »

loris wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 2:29pm
Templar wrote: Wed 22 Jun 2022 12:21pm As an experiment maybe they could try swapping the pre-bounce yoga meditation with belting out a few choruses of High Voltage?
That’s been my thought. If the pre bounce breath meditation isn’t bring players into focus - ditch it.
Maybe we’d be down by 10 goals at Q time without it. It might be helping. :D


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Re: Bad Starts

Post: # 1962295Post Ghost Like »

Maybe do their yoga zen thing as the last thing they do before running out - then the actual warm up might switch them on rather than leave them in some parallel universe of mystic marvels.


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