Ruck Strategy
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Ruck Strategy
FWIW
Here’s is how I’d play it
Ryder
Strengths
Centre Bounce, forward 50 stoppage, kicking at goal, forward craft
Marshall
Strengths
Around the ground and follow up, stoppage clearances at ball up, contested marking
My take
Ryder - start every game in Centre Bounce and as soon as he can switch with Marshall who would start forward.
Marshall - start forward and swap with Ryder as soon as possible
Marshall would then play the majority of the game in the ruck - except almost EVERY centre bounce where he would go forward and Ryder would take
Ryder to ruck at forward 50 stoppage while Marshall sets up behind the footy
We need to be able to utilise their strengths better!!!
When either one is resting on the bench - go smaller forward for 5 minutes a quarter
Here’s is how I’d play it
Ryder
Strengths
Centre Bounce, forward 50 stoppage, kicking at goal, forward craft
Marshall
Strengths
Around the ground and follow up, stoppage clearances at ball up, contested marking
My take
Ryder - start every game in Centre Bounce and as soon as he can switch with Marshall who would start forward.
Marshall - start forward and swap with Ryder as soon as possible
Marshall would then play the majority of the game in the ruck - except almost EVERY centre bounce where he would go forward and Ryder would take
Ryder to ruck at forward 50 stoppage while Marshall sets up behind the footy
We need to be able to utilise their strengths better!!!
When either one is resting on the bench - go smaller forward for 5 minutes a quarter
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Re: Ruck Strategy
We need to do something, and this sounds like it would be better than the current setup. Marshall can be dangerous inside the forward 50, but he can't really play a forward role. Ryder potentially can.
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Re: Ruck Strategy
The only bit I would tweak is resting them on the bench, I'd rest them in our forward line and wait until the opposition have won the ball back and drag 35 players up to the opposition F50 and hope a goal is scored, that gives a ruckman about 5 minutes rest.B.M wrote: ↑Mon 20 Jun 2022 7:50pm FWIW
Here’s is how I’d play it
Ryder
Strengths
Centre Bounce, forward 50 stoppage, kicking at goal, forward craft
Marshall
Strengths
Around the ground and follow up, stoppage clearances at ball up, contested marking
My take
Ryder - start every game in Centre Bounce and as soon as he can switch with Marshall who would start forward.
Marshall - start forward and swap with Ryder as soon as possible
Marshall would then play the majority of the game in the ruck - except almost EVERY centre bounce where he would go forward and Ryder would take
Ryder to ruck at forward 50 stoppage while Marshall sets up behind the footy
We need to be able to utilise their strengths better!!!
When either one is resting on the bench - go smaller forward for 5 minutes a quarter
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Re: Ruck Strategy
They would need a short spell
Ideally not but it would be necessary
Outside of Centre Bounce - I rate Marshall a much better ruckman
Ideally not but it would be necessary
Outside of Centre Bounce - I rate Marshall a much better ruckman
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Re: Ruck Strategy
Have a read of this article Ryder is not rated in the top in any clearance rankings and the club is 13th for scores clearances and 18th for scores conceded from clearances (dead last).
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... l-revealed
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... l-revealed
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Re: Ruck Strategy
That is more ago at our midfieldersImpatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 20 Jun 2022 8:19pm Have a read of this article Ryder is not rated in the top in any clearance rankings and the club is 13th for scores clearances and 18th for scores conceded from clearances (dead last).
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... l-revealed
has been highlighted further by absence of Steele
But all have dropped off
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Re: Ruck Strategy
Agreed but it also highlights it doesnt matter how good you think your ruckman is, he cant win the clearance for the club.chook23 wrote: ↑Mon 20 Jun 2022 8:49pmThat is more ago at our midfieldersImpatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 20 Jun 2022 8:19pm Have a read of this article Ryder is not rated in the top in any clearance rankings and the club is 13th for scores clearances and 18th for scores conceded from clearances (dead last).
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/ ... l-revealed
has been highlighted further by absence of Steele
But all have dropped off
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Re: Ruck Strategy
You need to have a chat with Ben McGlyn B.M…I think he needs some constructive help!B.M wrote: ↑Mon 20 Jun 2022 7:50pm FWIW
Here’s is how I’d play it
Ryder
Strengths
Centre Bounce, forward 50 stoppage, kicking at goal, forward craft
Marshall
Strengths
Around the ground and follow up, stoppage clearances at ball up, contested marking
My take
Ryder - start every game in Centre Bounce and as soon as he can switch with Marshall who would start forward.
Marshall - start forward and swap with Ryder as soon as possible
Marshall would then play the majority of the game in the ruck - except almost EVERY centre bounce where he would go forward and Ryder would take
Ryder to ruck at forward 50 stoppage while Marshall sets up behind the footy
We need to be able to utilise their strengths better!!!
When either one is resting on the bench - go smaller forward for 5 minutes a quarter
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Re: Ruck Strategy
I agree with Brunswicksainter
I'd be using Paddy as the second ruck and have him mainly playing as a forward.
When RoMa is fully fit, I'd have him as the main ruckman. Even at Centre bounce
viewtopic.php?p=1961735#p1961735
I'd be using Paddy as the second ruck and have him mainly playing as a forward.
When RoMa is fully fit, I'd have him as the main ruckman. Even at Centre bounce
viewtopic.php?p=1961735#p1961735
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Re: Ruck Strategy
I agree with the OP.
I think you rate him as a better more as a ruck-rover than a ruckman, which is fair enough.
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Re: Ruck Strategy
I'm with BM Roma hardly wins a centre clearance tap but is quite handy at a stoppage or boundary throw in where he can use his strength to out body opponents . Ryders leap is a lot better IMO but lately even if we win the tap we are still losing the clearance so have opposition teams out smarted us or the midfielders & the ruck men are not on the same page ?
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Re: Ruck Strategy
Sorry B.M., it is not but you got the reference. He's a very tall unaccountable midfielder. Is that better? At least you've come around to admitting he's no good at Centre bounces & Ryder is the preferred ruckman.
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Re: Ruck Strategy
A fully fit Roma and Paddy is a good ruck combination. Roma has a bung leg, and Paddy is clearly not jumping as freely in recent weeks. Our rucks are shot right now and it is one of the reason we are not getting clearances, as well as poor play from the onballers.. Just give Roma a rest and bring Campbell in.
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Re: Ruck Strategy
Just saying, why not recruit a couple of effective ruckmen. Rowan is a a classy CHF. Paddy just about spent - and seems to be showing in the early slog of second half of season. Bet they wish they had that Hickey decision to make again.
Our recruiters have patched a lot of holes effectively, but the patches are starting to wear through. Combine mediocre rucks (notwithstanding they are fine athletes and around the ground players) combined with largely mediocre mids its pushing footballs up hill all the time. And when the forward line can't take the limited real chances, well......
Our recruiters have patched a lot of holes effectively, but the patches are starting to wear through. Combine mediocre rucks (notwithstanding they are fine athletes and around the ground players) combined with largely mediocre mids its pushing footballs up hill all the time. And when the forward line can't take the limited real chances, well......
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Re: Ruck Strategy
Maybe the filth could offer up DeGoey and Grundy as a package and pay a significant part of Grundy's contract, getting two headaches off their hands.Yorkeys wrote: ↑Wed 22 Jun 2022 9:48am Just saying, why not recruit a couple of effective ruckmen. Rowan is a a classy CHF. Paddy just about spent - and seems to be showing in the early slog of second half of season. Bet they wish they had that Hickey decision to make again.
Our recruiters have patched a lot of holes effectively, but the patches are starting to wear through. Combine mediocre rucks (notwithstanding they are fine athletes and around the ground players) combined with largely mediocre mids its pushing footballs up hill all the time. And when the forward line can't take the limited real chances, well......