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Carlton greats Stephen Kernahan, Craig Bradley locked in bitter stoush over multimillion dollar debt
Twenty-seven years after flag glory, this heroic Carlton duo is locked in bitter financial stoush. They now face a crippling $6m debt and a battle that could match the 1995 grand final.
Michael Warner
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5 min read
May 6, 2022 - 12:31PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
It’s September 30, 1995, the Blue Baggers’ army rejoice in the MCG stands after their heroes have smashed Geelong by 61 points.
On the hallowed turf, Carlton’s favourite son and long-time skipper Stephen Kernahan, running machine Craig Bradley and tough nut Fraser Brown are arm in arm, euphoric.
For Kernahan and Bradley, who had landed at Princes Park from the SANFL in a massive recruiting coup a decade earlier, it is a second taste of flag success after the Blues’ grand final triumph over Hawthorn in 1987.
They are the wise old heads in a powerhouse team.
Brown, seven years younger but hard as nails, is another vital contributor to the Blues’ record-breaking 16th premiership, the Sweet Sixteen as it is dubbed.
Twenty-seven years on, the picture is far different.
After hanging up his boots in 1997, the statesmanlike Kernahan would go on to serve as Carlton president from 2008 to 2014.
Kernahan was also making big moves in the printing game, alongside close friend Bradley and others.
Big clients for their firm Waratah Group included Australia Post, Spotlight and World Vision.
Brown was forging another path, building an incredibly successful property development business.
Then for Kernahan, Bradley and their group, fortune took a sharp turn south.
In 2018, Kernahan and Bradley turned to Brown for help, borrowing $1.5m from his burgeoning company.
A year later, a group linked to their printing business which included Kernahan and Bradley took out more loans – totalling $4.12m.
This time the cash was coming from Oak Capital and First Mortgage Capital (FMC), with astronomical interest rates in the deal.
But the Waratah Group had overreached and fell into administration in late 2019.
Three years later, one of the partners had already been forced to hand over $1.5m to Oak and FMC after selling his family home.
And Kernahan and Bradley, now both 58, are facing possibly a bigger fight than the 1995 Grand Final.
Instead of the Cats, this time it is against Oak and FMC in the Supreme Court of Victoria.
At stake are their family homes.
Brown, 51, is not a player in this contest, but with $1.5m of his company’s cash also on the line, will be a very interested spectator.
Carlton premiership greats Stephen Kernahan and Craig Bradley face losing their family homes in a bitter stoush over a $4.5m debt.
Former Blues hardman and close friend Fraser Brown is separately owed $1.5m by the pair.
Supreme Court documents reveal mortgage fund providers Oak Capital and its offshoot First Mortgage Capital are demanding Kernahan and Bradley surrender their homes in Essendon and Eaglemont for failing to repay $4.12m they borrowed in 2019.
With interest and legal costs, the total amount being pursued is more than $4.5m.
In a counterclaim, Oak Capital and FMC are being accused of having “conspired to cause financial harm” to the Blues legends and their business partners “by imposing a lending regime which was bound to cause the borrower to fail”.
The debt dispute centres on the collapse of the Waratah Group, a Port Melbourne printing business part-owned by Kernahan and Bradley.
Oak Capital and FMC agreed to lend $4.12m to MW Assets Pty Ltd – the Waratah Group’s corporate vehicle in March 2019 – just eight months before it fell into administration.
Court documents reveal the interest rate on FMC’s loan peaked at 60 per cent, with monthly repayments reaching $52,492, despite the company only having advanced about a third of the $2 million it was lending.
Oak Capital charged up to 18 per cent interest on its loan.
Kernahan and wife Jennifer and Bradley and wife Donna personally guaranteed the loans by providing their family homes as security.
Their business partners, who also put up their properties as security for the loans, were Brett Chalmers (not the former Port Adelaide and Adelaide player of the same name) and ex-wife Michelle, Moody Aboughattas, Abdel Aboughattas, Kathryn Aboughattas and Choppers Noona Pty Ltd.
The Chalmers have already surrendered $1.5m to Oak Capital from the proceeds of the sale of their former family home.
Court documents reveal Kernahan and Bradley also borrowed $1.5 million from Brown’s construction firm BPG in 2018 – prior to them taking on the Oak and FMC debts.
In 2021, the duo again agreed to hand over their homes as security to Brown’s company.
BPG is closely monitoring the Oak-FMC standoff.
In the court fight, FMC asserts in documents: “In breach of the terms of the Essendon mortgage … Mr Kernahan and Mrs Kernahan have failed, neglected and or refused to pay to FMC the secured money owing, namely the sum of $764,877.39.
“FMC is entitled to possession of the Essendon property pursuant to the terms of the Essendon mortgage.
The finance firm also demands that Donna Bradley (the sole proprietor of the Bradley family home) “immediately” pay $765,000, declaring it is “entitled to possession of the Eaglemont property”.
But lawyers for Kathryn Aboughattas, who is among those being pursued, allege Oak and FMC “acted unconscionably” in facilitating the loans and in their subsequent conduct.
They have lodged complaints to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission and the Australian Financial Complaints Authority, alleging they engaged in a system of conduct to avoid regulatory scrutiny.
John Sinisgalli, a commercial litigation specialist acting for the debt-ridden Blues, told the Herald Sun: “The Kernahans and the Bradleys are very disappointed by the lending practices and conduct of Oak Capital and FMC.
“They will be defending their position as alleged guarantors of these loans fully and without hesitation. A strong stand has to be taken against these lending practices.”
Michael Landy, director of Eagle Financial Solutions, which is advising the Aboughattas family, said Oak’s operation model was “a matter of public interest” and needed to be “investigated in order to protect borrowers and guarantors”.
“While Oak is an Australian Financial Services licence holder and thus bound by AFCA’s dispute resolution scheme, FMC, its related entity, is not – so, when there is a problem with a borrower, Oak assigns the debt to an unlicensed related entity, like FMC, which prevents ASIC and AFCA from investigating its conduct,” Landy said.
Solicitor Nicola Lally, acting for Choppers Noona, said: “My observation is that the lending practices of these two companies have been extremely oppressive and burdensome, and have caused considerable stress for the borrower and guarantors. These practices will rightly be exposed to the scrutiny of the court.”
Lawyers for Oak and FMC responded in a statement.
“In 2019 MW Assets Pty Ltd, Moody Aboughattas (including Kathryn Aboughattas), Stephen Kernahan, Craig Bradley and others (MW Assets Group) borrowed money from Oak Capital Mortgage Fund Ltd (Oak) and First Mortgage Capital Pty Ltd (FMC) to refinance their existing defaulting loans with Wentworth Capital Pty Ltd (Oak/FMC Loans).
“The MW Assets Group promised to repay the Oak/FMC Loans by selling and refinancing various assets. Unfortunately, the MW Assets Group did not repay the Oak/FMC Loans as it had promised to do resulting in the current recovery proceedings involving Oak, FMC and other lenders owed money by the MW Assets Group including the Commonwealth Bank of Australia.
“As this matter is still before the Court, Oak and FMC is unable to provide any further comment.”
A directions hearing in the Supreme Court is scheduled for May 13.
Who they are
Kernahan, 58, Waratah’s long-time sales director, played 251 games for Carlton and was captain of the club’s 1987 and 1995 premiership teams. He served as the Blues’ president from 2008 until 2014.
Bradley, 58, is Carlton’s games-record holder, running out 375 times for the Blues between 1986 and 2002.
Brown, 51, played 177 games for Carlton, including the 1995 premiership alongside Kernahan and Bradley.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 802e1da4f0
Carlton greats Stephen Kernahan, Craig Bradley locked in bitter stoush over multimillion dollar debt
Twenty-seven years after flag glory, this heroic Carlton duo is locked in bitter financial stoush. They now face a crippling $6m debt and a battle that could match the 1995 grand final.
Michael Warner
Exclusive
5 min read
May 6, 2022 - 12:31PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
It’s September 30, 1995, the Blue Baggers’ army rejoice in the MCG stands after their heroes have smashed Geelong by 61 points.
On the hallowed turf, Carlton’s favourite son and long-time skipper Stephen Kernahan, running machine Craig Bradley and tough nut Fraser Brown are arm in arm, euphoric.
For Kernahan and Bradley, who had landed at Princes Park from the SANFL in a massive recruiting coup a decade earlier, it is a second taste of flag success after the Blues’ grand final triumph over Hawthorn in 1987.
They are the wise old heads in a powerhouse team.
Brown, seven years younger but hard as nails, is another vital contributor to the Blues’ record-breaking 16th premiership, the Sweet Sixteen as it is dubbed.
Twenty-seven years on, the picture is far different.
After hanging up his boots in 1997, the statesmanlike Kernahan would go on to serve as Carlton president from 2008 to 2014.
Kernahan was also making big moves in the printing game, alongside close friend Bradley and others.
Big clients for their firm Waratah Group included Australia Post, Spotlight and World Vision.
Brown was forging another path, building an incredibly successful property development business.
Then for Kernahan, Bradley and their group, fortune took a sharp turn south.
In 2018, Kernahan and Bradley turned to Brown for help, borrowing $1.5m from his burgeoning company.
A year later, a group linked to their printing business which included Kernahan and Bradley took out more loans – totalling $4.12m.
This time the cash was coming from Oak Capital and First Mortgage Capital (FMC), with astronomical interest rates in the deal.
But the Waratah Group had overreached and fell into administration in late 2019.
Three years later, one of the partners had already been forced to hand over $1.5m to Oak and FMC after selling his family home.
And Kernahan and Bradley, now both 58, are facing possibly a bigger fight than the 1995 Grand Final.
Instead of the Cats, this time it is against Oak and FMC in the Supreme Court of Victoria.
At stake are their family homes.
Brown, 51, is not a player in this contest, but with $1.5m of his company’s cash also on the line, will be a very interested spectator.
Carlton premiership greats Stephen Kernahan and Craig Bradley face losing their family homes in a bitter stoush over a $4.5m debt.
Former Blues hardman and close friend Fraser Brown is separately owed $1.5m by the pair.
Supreme Court documents reveal mortgage fund providers Oak Capital and its offshoot First Mortgage Capital are demanding Kernahan and Bradley surrender their homes in Essendon and Eaglemont for failing to repay $4.12m they borrowed in 2019.
With interest and legal costs, the total amount being pursued is more than $4.5m.
In a counterclaim, Oak Capital and FMC are being accused of having “conspired to cause financial harm” to the Blues legends and their business partners “by imposing a lending regime which was bound to cause the borrower to fail”.
The debt dispute centres on the collapse of the Waratah Group, a Port Melbourne printing business part-owned by Kernahan and Bradley.
Oak Capital and FMC agreed to lend $4.12m to MW Assets Pty Ltd – the Waratah Group’s corporate vehicle in March 2019 – just eight months before it fell into administration.
Court documents reveal the interest rate on FMC’s loan peaked at 60 per cent, with monthly repayments reaching $52,492, despite the company only having advanced about a third of the $2 million it was lending.
Oak Capital charged up to 18 per cent interest on its loan.
Kernahan and wife Jennifer and Bradley and wife Donna personally guaranteed the loans by providing their family homes as security.
Their business partners, who also put up their properties as security for the loans, were Brett Chalmers (not the former Port Adelaide and Adelaide player of the same name) and ex-wife Michelle, Moody Aboughattas, Abdel Aboughattas, Kathryn Aboughattas and Choppers Noona Pty Ltd.
The Chalmers have already surrendered $1.5m to Oak Capital from the proceeds of the sale of their former family home.
Court documents reveal Kernahan and Bradley also borrowed $1.5 million from Brown’s construction firm BPG in 2018 – prior to them taking on the Oak and FMC debts.
In 2021, the duo again agreed to hand over their homes as security to Brown’s company.
BPG is closely monitoring the Oak-FMC standoff.
In the court fight, FMC asserts in documents: “In breach of the terms of the Essendon mortgage … Mr Kernahan and Mrs Kernahan have failed, neglected and or refused to pay to FMC the secured money owing, namely the sum of $764,877.39.
“FMC is entitled to possession of the Essendon property pursuant to the terms of the Essendon mortgage.
The finance firm also demands that Donna Bradley (the sole proprietor of the Bradley family home) “immediately” pay $765,000, declaring it is “entitled to possession of the Eaglemont property”.
But lawyers for Kathryn Aboughattas, who is among those being pursued, allege Oak and FMC “acted unconscionably” in facilitating the loans and in their subsequent conduct.
They have lodged complaints to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission and the Australian Financial Complaints Authority, alleging they engaged in a system of conduct to avoid regulatory scrutiny.
John Sinisgalli, a commercial litigation specialist acting for the debt-ridden Blues, told the Herald Sun: “The Kernahans and the Bradleys are very disappointed by the lending practices and conduct of Oak Capital and FMC.
“They will be defending their position as alleged guarantors of these loans fully and without hesitation. A strong stand has to be taken against these lending practices.”
Michael Landy, director of Eagle Financial Solutions, which is advising the Aboughattas family, said Oak’s operation model was “a matter of public interest” and needed to be “investigated in order to protect borrowers and guarantors”.
“While Oak is an Australian Financial Services licence holder and thus bound by AFCA’s dispute resolution scheme, FMC, its related entity, is not – so, when there is a problem with a borrower, Oak assigns the debt to an unlicensed related entity, like FMC, which prevents ASIC and AFCA from investigating its conduct,” Landy said.
Solicitor Nicola Lally, acting for Choppers Noona, said: “My observation is that the lending practices of these two companies have been extremely oppressive and burdensome, and have caused considerable stress for the borrower and guarantors. These practices will rightly be exposed to the scrutiny of the court.”
Lawyers for Oak and FMC responded in a statement.
“In 2019 MW Assets Pty Ltd, Moody Aboughattas (including Kathryn Aboughattas), Stephen Kernahan, Craig Bradley and others (MW Assets Group) borrowed money from Oak Capital Mortgage Fund Ltd (Oak) and First Mortgage Capital Pty Ltd (FMC) to refinance their existing defaulting loans with Wentworth Capital Pty Ltd (Oak/FMC Loans).
“The MW Assets Group promised to repay the Oak/FMC Loans by selling and refinancing various assets. Unfortunately, the MW Assets Group did not repay the Oak/FMC Loans as it had promised to do resulting in the current recovery proceedings involving Oak, FMC and other lenders owed money by the MW Assets Group including the Commonwealth Bank of Australia.
“As this matter is still before the Court, Oak and FMC is unable to provide any further comment.”
A directions hearing in the Supreme Court is scheduled for May 13.
Who they are
Kernahan, 58, Waratah’s long-time sales director, played 251 games for Carlton and was captain of the club’s 1987 and 1995 premiership teams. He served as the Blues’ president from 2008 until 2014.
Bradley, 58, is Carlton’s games-record holder, running out 375 times for the Blues between 1986 and 2002.
Brown, 51, played 177 games for Carlton, including the 1995 premiership alongside Kernahan and Bradley.
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Who gives a tu'penny f***. Not I, Cheating blue scum getting their's.
Anyway this granpa says opposition forum for this rubbish.
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Re: Maybe they need to pull some of the old paper bags from the cupboard
Wasn’t Bradley an assistant at the Saints under GT for about 2 minutes?
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Yeah I remember that
Good some lucrative job offer about 2 weeks into the off-season, barely did a session or two
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A printing company perhaps?
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I worked for 3 different insurance companies over 10 years.
Federal Government did a Royal Commission into Financial Services Industry, and the findings were very damning indeed.
However, the only ones punished were mortgage brokers.
Because banks, insurance companies, etc, are big money players and get a free ride from the gov.
The gov wants the public to think it's being looked after, but the politicians are best mates with all the big money folk
Federal Government did a Royal Commission into Financial Services Industry, and the findings were very damning indeed.
However, the only ones punished were mortgage brokers.
Because banks, insurance companies, etc, are big money players and get a free ride from the gov.
The gov wants the public to think it's being looked after, but the politicians are best mates with all the big money folk
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Re: Maybe they need to pull some of the old paper bags from the cupboard
They certainly had a great 'culture' at Carlton didn't they?
A former AFL player found with a significant amount of ice and cash in his bumbag says he now appreciates the "preciousness" of second chances as he faces losing his leg.
Ron De Iulio, 49, who played 104 matches for Carlton during the 1990s, was charged with possessing 4.67 grams of ice and $4350 in cash.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ex-afl-player ... 27137.html
A former AFL player found with a significant amount of ice and cash in his bumbag says he now appreciates the "preciousness" of second chances as he faces losing his leg.
Ron De Iulio, 49, who played 104 matches for Carlton during the 1990s, was charged with possessing 4.67 grams of ice and $4350 in cash.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ex-afl-player ... 27137.html
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Don't forget former Blue Craig Davenport who was recently in court for theft of money from a community sporting club.Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 7:29am They certainly had a great 'culture' at Carlton didn't they?
A former AFL player found with a significant amount of ice and cash in his bumbag says he now appreciates the "preciousness" of second chances as he faces losing his leg.
Ron De Iulio, 49, who played 104 matches for Carlton during the 1990s, was charged with possessing 4.67 grams of ice and $4350 in cash.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ex-afl-player ... 27137.html
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20 plus consecutive years of having convicted corporate criminals as president.Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 7:29am They certainly had a great 'culture' at Carlton didn't they?
A former AFL player found with a significant amount of ice and cash in his bumbag says he now appreciates the "preciousness" of second chances as he faces losing his leg.
Ron De Iulio, 49, who played 104 matches for Carlton during the 1990s, was charged with possessing 4.67 grams of ice and $4350 in cash.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/ex-afl-player ... 27137.html
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Carlton and Essendon will be known as the cheating clubs we may be known as the spoon club but we got them honestly
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Don't forget their captain John Nicholls.The Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 4:58pm Carlton and Essendon will be known as the cheating clubs we may be known as the spoon club but we got them honestly
From wikipedia.
"Controversies
While playing for Carlton, Nicholls served a three-month jail term at Pentridge Prison in 1960, having been found guilty of embezzling £5,558 from the Collins Street Branch of the ES&A Bank and larceny as a servant. He was sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment (with an eligibility for parole after three months),[13] he missed the first eleven games of the 1960 season, returning to play against Richmond on 16 July 1960.[14] "
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Wow, didn't know about Big Nicks time in the clink.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 6:47pmDon't forget their captain John Nicholls.The Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 4:58pm Carlton and Essendon will be known as the cheating clubs we may be known as the spoon club but we got them honestly
From wikipedia.
"Controversies
While playing for Carlton, Nicholls served a three-month jail term at Pentridge Prison in 1960, having been found guilty of embezzling £5,558 from the Collins Street Branch of the ES&A Bank and larceny as a servant. He was sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment (with an eligibility for parole after three months),[13] he missed the first eleven games of the 1960 season, returning to play against Richmond on 16 July 1960.[14] "
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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I hadn't forgotten.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 7:30pmWow, didn't know about Big Nicks time in the clink.saynta wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 6:47pmDon't forget their captain John Nicholls.The Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 08 May 2022 4:58pm Carlton and Essendon will be known as the cheating clubs we may be known as the spoon club but we got them honestly
From wikipedia.
"Controversies
While playing for Carlton, Nicholls served a three-month jail term at Pentridge Prison in 1960, having been found guilty of embezzling £5,558 from the Collins Street Branch of the ES&A Bank and larceny as a servant. He was sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment (with an eligibility for parole after three months),[13] he missed the first eleven games of the 1960 season, returning to play against Richmond on 16 July 1960.[14] "
I love putting s*** on the salary cap rorters. The AFL would like us to forget heaps if it involves one of their big clubs.
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