Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

Post: # 1951848Post shanegrambeau »

What did you think?


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Geez.
What a question.
Slippery conditions, very hard to compare coaches.
Nearly impossible.


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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He can’t kick it for them


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

Post: # 1951870Post Wayne42 »

bigcarl wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:11am He can’t kick it for them
Pity, he might have kicked it straighter,


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I'm amazed at the lack of accountability for Alliir. Just bewildered.
Should have COVID tested Campbell at half time and told him to jog back to Melb, thrown Battle to CHF and Lienert back.


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:28am I'm amazed at the lack of accountability for Alliir. Just bewildered.
Should have COVID tested Campbell at half time and told him to jog back to Melb, thrown Battle to CHF and Lienert back.
The number of times he was there. Just amazing. Slipperry conditions? Give a ***:. BUt how do coach against a tall defender that has such a good radar?


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:58am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:28am I'm amazed at the lack of accountability for Alliir. Just bewildered.
Should have COVID tested Campbell at half time and told him to jog back to Melb, thrown Battle to CHF and Lienert back.
The number of times he was there. Just amazing. Slipperry conditions? Give a ***:. BUt how do coach against a tall defender that has such a good radar?
We chose to give him easy ball, expecting we would use the outnumber he provided us with by staying behind the ball.
We structured a zone at the other end and they moved some very quick lead up players forward, knowing we were running out of defence into a brick alliir. There lead up players broke our structure and took away any advantage we had.
We just kept scrambling loose ball and kicking it to AA and they got us on the turnovers.
Their midfield didn't need to work as hard as ours and we got no advantage from an outnumber because we had a useless 200cm 106kg anchor in our rotation.
We should have rested Wood, played Byrnes or Jones and either Lienert or Heath.
Heath can play forward and he would have gotten 10 hit outs, he is taller than Campbell, faster than Campbell and from what I've seen, is more of a competitor.
Otherwise if went with Lienert, we should have plonked Battle at CHF to even up on AA, manned up in the midfield, trying to slow the pace of the game and moved Lienert to our backline to play AA's game.
Let's get over the hysteria, we should have won the game by 6 goals at half time and could have buried them twicd, but we didn't kick straight, simple as that.
Then we chose to slog it out with a running group that can match ours and played into their hands with a lack of pace.
Pace we had available. It was a fat headed f*** up.


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How the f*** anyone would have thought Campbell was a good idea in the wet, is just ludicrously naive.


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 2:36am
shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:58am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:28am I'm amazed at the lack of accountability for Alliir. Just bewildered.
Should have COVID tested Campbell at half time and told him to jog back to Melb, thrown Battle to CHF and Lienert back.
The number of times he was there. Just amazing. Slipperry conditions? Give a ***:. BUt how do coach against a tall defender that has such a good radar?
We chose to give him easy ball, expecting we would use the outnumber he provided us with by staying behind the ball.
We structured a zone at the other end and they moved some very quick lead up players forward, knowing we were running out of defence into a brick alliir. There lead up players broke our structure and took away any advantage we had.
We just kept scrambling loose ball and kicking it to AA and they got us on the turnovers.
Their midfield didn't need to work as hard as ours and we got no advantage from an outnumber because we had a useless 200cm 106kg anchor in our rotation.
We should have rested Wood, played Byrnes or Jones and either Lienert or Heath.
Heath can play forward and he would have gotten 10 hit outs, he is taller than Campbell, faster than Campbell and from what I've seen, is more of a competitor.
Otherwise if went with Lienert, we should have plonked Battle at CHF to even up on AA, manned up in the midfield, trying to slow the pace of the game and moved Lienert to our backline to play AA's game.
Let's get over the hysteria, we should have won the game by 6 goals at half time and could have buried them twicd, but we didn't kick straight, simple as that.
Then we chose to slog it out with a running group that can match ours and played into their hands with a lack of pace.
Pace we had available. It was a fat headed f*** up.
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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

Post: # 1951898Post spert »

I thought our midfield after half time was hopeless- end of story.


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Re: Coaching: Ratts vs Hinkley

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CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 2:36am
shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:58am
CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 1:28am I'm amazed at the lack of accountability for Alliir. Just bewildered.
Should have COVID tested Campbell at half time and told him to jog back to Melb, thrown Battle to CHF and Lienert back.
The number of times he was there. Just amazing. Slipperry conditions? Give a ***:. BUt how do coach against a tall defender that has such a good radar?
We chose to give him easy ball, expecting we would use the outnumber he provided us with by staying behind the ball.
We structured a zone at the other end and they moved some very quick lead up players forward, knowing we were running out of defence into a brick alliir. There lead up players broke our structure and took away any advantage we had.
We just kept scrambling loose ball and kicking it to AA and they got us on the turnovers.
Their midfield didn't need to work as hard as ours and we got no advantage from an outnumber because we had a useless 200cm 106kg anchor in our rotation.
We should have rested Wood, played Byrnes or Jones and either Lienert or Heath.
Heath can play forward and he would have gotten 10 hit outs, he is taller than Campbell, faster than Campbell and from what I've seen, is more of a competitor.
Otherwise if went with Lienert, we should have plonked Battle at CHF to even up on AA, manned up in the midfield, trying to slow the pace of the game and moved Lienert to our backline to play AA's game.
Let's get over the hysteria, we should have won the game by 6 goals at half time and could have buried them twicd, but we didn't kick straight, simple as that.
Then we chose to slog it out with a running group that can match ours and played into their hands with a lack of pace.
Pace we had available. It was a fat headed f*** up.
I think that is a good summary. After quarter time, Port took the game on more, which was risky in the conditions, but we tended quite often to play in wet weather mode, and scramble it forward any way possible, and it ended up with AA or at least to a pack, and back it came. That went on for the rest of the night with little response from the coaches box, as far as I could see. I did see Battle in the forward line late in the last, maybe he could have been plonked on Allir a bit earlier.

Campbell tried hard, but totally not suited to the conditions.

I reckon Ratts was outcoached.

However, the main reason we lost was missing sodas in the forward line.


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