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I’m sure they spoke about him in match committee and communicated that to the players?!


But it didn’t fkn look that way!!!!


Continually kicked the ball to him?! Who was his opponent?!

I would’ve sent Wood to him to play a purely defensive role


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Yep thought the same thing all night


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Who the hell played on him?!?!


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Are we supposed to play on defenders ?

Blame our forward delivery


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An All Australian intercept defender - yes

You keep him honest and make sure he can’t sag off you and intercept

On a slippery night - he took 5 intercept marks

Against Geelong - I would also assign someone for Tom Stewart!

Hill was tagged as a HB - it happens a lot

Running backs and Intercept defenders are the most dangerous offensive players in the opposition
That’s where scoring begins - HB


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Very poor coaching.


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B.M wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 12:04am An All Australian intercept defender - yes

You keep him honest and make sure he can’t sag off you and intercept

On a slippery night - he took 5 intercept marks

Against Geelong - I would also assign someone for Tom Stewart!

Hill was tagged as a HB - it happens a lot

Running backs and Intercept defenders are the most dangerous offensive players in the opposition
That’s where scoring begins - HB
Yep. But I would be more concerned with our forwards making the opportunities and our delivery to be a little more intelligent. Our forwards need to be more clever to counteract players like Darcy more etc. some of our forward movements were hitting Alia on the chest. That’s just bad football


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They let him stay behind the play, hoping we would win an out number. Then they let the Pain in Arse runners lead up, hoping a loose zone would stop it.


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Post: # 1951970Post B.M »

Can anyone say who was playing on Aliir?

There was Clurey, Jonas and Aliir and they beat our forwards comfortably

This week it’s May, Petty and Lever - similar but better

Our forward must engage their defenders


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B.M wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:52pm I’m sure they spoke about him in match committee and communicated that to the players?!

But it didn’t fkn look that way!!!!

Continually kicked the ball to him?! Who was his opponent?!

I would’ve sent Wood to him to play a purely defensive role
Totally agree Ratten had a mare in the coaching box last night. I have been a Ratten fan but Hinkley pulled his pants down last night. Ratten quoted a heap of stats in his presser that were won, but it was obvious to everyone that our lack of score board pressure would hurt us and it did. He just sat on his f.....n hands and watched it, it was painful to watch.

Wood to Allir as mentioned as a lock down.
Sinclair onto the ball to give the desperately needed run we needed in the last.
Butler to a wing and tell him to start putting his nose over the f.....n ball.
Campbell subbed out with feigned injury.
Lienert to play the 2nd ruck HBF role.
Long to HFF rotating on ball in the last.
Try going small in the F50 and lock the ball in.

Also have a sweeper behind each marking contest as the ball was spitting out the back 90% of the time.
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Impatient Sainter wrote: Sun 01 May 2022 11:58am
B.M wrote: Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:52pm I’m sure they spoke about him in match committee and communicated that to the players?!

But it didn’t fkn look that way!!!!

Continually kicked the ball to him?! Who was his opponent?!

I would’ve sent Wood to him to play a purely defensive role
Totally agree Ratten had a mare in the coaching box last night. I have been a Ratten fan but Hinkley pulled his pants down last night. Ratten quoted a heap of stats in his presser that we won, but it was obvious to everyone that our lack of score board pressure would hurt us and it did. He just sat on his f.....n hands and watched it, which was painful to watch.

Wood to Allir as mentioned as a lock down.
Sinclair onto the ball to give the desperately needed run we needed in the last.
Butler to a wing and tell him to start putting his nose over the f.....n ball.
Campbell subbed out with feigned injury.
Lienert to play the 2nd ruck HBF role.
Long to HFF rotating on ball in the last.
Try going small in the F50 and lock the ball in.
Ratts had a bad day at the office


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Post: # 1952004Post wally »

Well when we play Melbourne it will be Lever and May (assuming they’re fit)


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Post: # 1952013Post perfectionist »

From what I saw, it was man on man all night with no spare man in defence (spare man suits us). Aliir Aliir took one of the half forwards. But what he does, and why his is such a great player, is that he reads the play very quickly and leaves his man to take the intercept mark, making it look like he was spare. If he drops it, his man is free. Like May and Lever, he doesn't drop it. Both Dougal Howard and Callum Wilkie dropped their marks, as did Josh Battle. The only good contested mark on the backline was taken by Tom Campbell.


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That’s the point - we know Aliir drops off

Especially with our predictability of going long to king

You need to go through Aliir’s man at all times - make him defend!

The best way to play as a defensive forward - get dangerous

Again though

Who did he play on? Gresham??


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I was at the ground. After quarter time, 30-34 players ran in formation up and back down the field.
Alliir didn't. We sat in the Grandstand and just watched with amazement, wondering when we would just get someone to stay with him. No one did.
He defended when he had to, then propped and spent lots of time sitting behind the play, as the last man, waiting for the ball to come back.
As play congested around him, he was set like a forward ready to attack the ball, while we where obsessed with kick and run tactics.
It was starkly different from the first quarter and we didn't recover control of the game until it was was too late.


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We played right into Ports game plan after the first. They wanted a wrestle and we s*** ourselves, hoping our frantic kick and chase tactics would overpower them.
We should have held a full ground set up and just played man on man.


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Post: # 1952071Post Sainternist »

He had an absolute picnic. Can’t believe Ratten sat on his hands over that. He got completely outcoached. But then again, Hinkley and Port always seem to have our number 🤮


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