Aliir Aliir
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Aliir Aliir
I’m sure they spoke about him in match committee and communicated that to the players?!
But it didn’t fkn look that way!!!!
Continually kicked the ball to him?! Who was his opponent?!
I would’ve sent Wood to him to play a purely defensive role
But it didn’t fkn look that way!!!!
Continually kicked the ball to him?! Who was his opponent?!
I would’ve sent Wood to him to play a purely defensive role
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Re: Aliir Aliir
An All Australian intercept defender - yes
You keep him honest and make sure he can’t sag off you and intercept
On a slippery night - he took 5 intercept marks
Against Geelong - I would also assign someone for Tom Stewart!
Hill was tagged as a HB - it happens a lot
Running backs and Intercept defenders are the most dangerous offensive players in the opposition
That’s where scoring begins - HB
You keep him honest and make sure he can’t sag off you and intercept
On a slippery night - he took 5 intercept marks
Against Geelong - I would also assign someone for Tom Stewart!
Hill was tagged as a HB - it happens a lot
Running backs and Intercept defenders are the most dangerous offensive players in the opposition
That’s where scoring begins - HB
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Re: Aliir Aliir
Yep. But I would be more concerned with our forwards making the opportunities and our delivery to be a little more intelligent. Our forwards need to be more clever to counteract players like Darcy more etc. some of our forward movements were hitting Alia on the chest. That’s just bad footballB.M wrote: ↑Sun 01 May 2022 12:04am An All Australian intercept defender - yes
You keep him honest and make sure he can’t sag off you and intercept
On a slippery night - he took 5 intercept marks
Against Geelong - I would also assign someone for Tom Stewart!
Hill was tagged as a HB - it happens a lot
Running backs and Intercept defenders are the most dangerous offensive players in the opposition
That’s where scoring begins - HB
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Re: Aliir Aliir
They let him stay behind the play, hoping we would win an out number. Then they let the Pain in Arse runners lead up, hoping a loose zone would stop it.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
Can anyone say who was playing on Aliir?
There was Clurey, Jonas and Aliir and they beat our forwards comfortably
This week it’s May, Petty and Lever - similar but better
Our forward must engage their defenders
There was Clurey, Jonas and Aliir and they beat our forwards comfortably
This week it’s May, Petty and Lever - similar but better
Our forward must engage their defenders
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Re: Aliir Aliir
Totally agree Ratten had a mare in the coaching box last night. I have been a Ratten fan but Hinkley pulled his pants down last night. Ratten quoted a heap of stats in his presser that were won, but it was obvious to everyone that our lack of score board pressure would hurt us and it did. He just sat on his f.....n hands and watched it, it was painful to watch.
Wood to Allir as mentioned as a lock down.
Sinclair onto the ball to give the desperately needed run we needed in the last.
Butler to a wing and tell him to start putting his nose over the f.....n ball.
Campbell subbed out with feigned injury.
Lienert to play the 2nd ruck HBF role.
Long to HFF rotating on ball in the last.
Try going small in the F50 and lock the ball in.
Also have a sweeper behind each marking contest as the ball was spitting out the back 90% of the time.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
Ratts had a bad day at the officeImpatient Sainter wrote: ↑Sun 01 May 2022 11:58amTotally agree Ratten had a mare in the coaching box last night. I have been a Ratten fan but Hinkley pulled his pants down last night. Ratten quoted a heap of stats in his presser that we won, but it was obvious to everyone that our lack of score board pressure would hurt us and it did. He just sat on his f.....n hands and watched it, which was painful to watch.
Wood to Allir as mentioned as a lock down.
Sinclair onto the ball to give the desperately needed run we needed in the last.
Butler to a wing and tell him to start putting his nose over the f.....n ball.
Campbell subbed out with feigned injury.
Lienert to play the 2nd ruck HBF role.
Long to HFF rotating on ball in the last.
Try going small in the F50 and lock the ball in.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
From what I saw, it was man on man all night with no spare man in defence (spare man suits us). Aliir Aliir took one of the half forwards. But what he does, and why his is such a great player, is that he reads the play very quickly and leaves his man to take the intercept mark, making it look like he was spare. If he drops it, his man is free. Like May and Lever, he doesn't drop it. Both Dougal Howard and Callum Wilkie dropped their marks, as did Josh Battle. The only good contested mark on the backline was taken by Tom Campbell.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
That’s the point - we know Aliir drops off
Especially with our predictability of going long to king
You need to go through Aliir’s man at all times - make him defend!
The best way to play as a defensive forward - get dangerous
Again though
Who did he play on? Gresham??
Especially with our predictability of going long to king
You need to go through Aliir’s man at all times - make him defend!
The best way to play as a defensive forward - get dangerous
Again though
Who did he play on? Gresham??
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Re: Aliir Aliir
I was at the ground. After quarter time, 30-34 players ran in formation up and back down the field.
Alliir didn't. We sat in the Grandstand and just watched with amazement, wondering when we would just get someone to stay with him. No one did.
He defended when he had to, then propped and spent lots of time sitting behind the play, as the last man, waiting for the ball to come back.
As play congested around him, he was set like a forward ready to attack the ball, while we where obsessed with kick and run tactics.
It was starkly different from the first quarter and we didn't recover control of the game until it was was too late.
Alliir didn't. We sat in the Grandstand and just watched with amazement, wondering when we would just get someone to stay with him. No one did.
He defended when he had to, then propped and spent lots of time sitting behind the play, as the last man, waiting for the ball to come back.
As play congested around him, he was set like a forward ready to attack the ball, while we where obsessed with kick and run tactics.
It was starkly different from the first quarter and we didn't recover control of the game until it was was too late.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
We played right into Ports game plan after the first. They wanted a wrestle and we s*** ourselves, hoping our frantic kick and chase tactics would overpower them.
We should have held a full ground set up and just played man on man.
We should have held a full ground set up and just played man on man.
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Re: Aliir Aliir
He had an absolute picnic. Can’t believe Ratten sat on his hands over that. He got completely outcoached. But then again, Hinkley and Port always seem to have our number
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