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Team of the "new" Century!

Post: # 1949241Post D.B.Cooper »

To the best of my knowledge we haven't seen a TOC since the end of 1999.
I thought it would be interesting to look at one from 2000 onward.

Criteria I have used:
- Minimum 50 games
- All Australian automatic inclusion

I have excluded Burke & Loewe who played many more seasons prior to 2000 than post who were both TOC selections in 1999/2000 and though played well to the end of their careers were superior pre 2000.
Burke - 1988- 2003
Loewe - 1986 - 2002
Harvey - 1988 - 2008 was AA in 2005 and played through to 2008.

Really struggled for a ruck combination as Everitt didn't play 50 for us post 2000 and we traded McEvoy before he blossomed.
Key backs were a challenge with no stand out brutes or real talls other than Carslile, but gun medium tall defenders.

I'd expect Sinclair, Marshall, King, Gresham to be in there and left them out for now as still early days though could be easily included.

I've probably missed an obvious inclusion but here is my shot!

B: Baker Hudgton Geary
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Steven
HF: Membrey Riewoldt Montagna
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill

R: Koschitzke Steele Harvey

INT: Ball Schneider Thompson Peckett

EMG: Dempster Gilbert X Clarke Gram Maguire Armitage


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Not bad. I’d have dempster for Geary and Gilbert for Jones in backline.

Gardiner play 50 games for us? If so I reckon he’s a better ruckman. Even paddy Ryder is better ruckman than kosi imo.


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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B: Dempster - Hudghton - Baker
HB: Gilbert - Fisher - Jones
C: Goddard - Hayes - Montagna
HF: - Reiwoldt - Dal Santo
F: Membrey - Gehrig - Milne
Foll: Marshall - Steele - Steven
Int: Harvey - Koschitzke - Ball - Ross
Emerg: Blake - Thompson - Voss - Armitage

Ruck - hardest to choose
Everett - B&F
Gardner - good
Marshall - RU B&F
Ryder Good
Kosi - longest but not really a ruckman

Many unlucky players


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Who was on the other HF?


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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B.M wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 10:58am B: Dempster - Hudghton - Baker
HB: Gilbert - Fisher - Jones
C: Goddard - Hayes - Montagna
HF: - Reiwoldt - Dal Santo
F: Membrey - Gehrig - Milne
Foll: Marshall - Steele - Steven
Int: Harvey - Koschitzke - Ball - Ross
Emerg: Blake - Thompson - Voss - Armitage

Ruck - hardest to choose
Everett - B&F
Gardner - good
Marshall - RU B&F
Ryder Good
Kosi - longest but not really a ruckman

Many unlucky players
Must be a good team. You’re starting with 17 players 😅
Did you forget Hamill?

Also is HB Clint Jones or Zac Jones?
Personally, after last year and the way he’s started this year, I’d have Sinclair in there


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I assumed it was Aussie Jones


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Dempster Dawson Hudghton

Goddard Fisher Gilbert

Dal Santo Hayes Jones

Membrey Riewoldt Sneider

Milne Gehrig Kosi


Marshall Steele Harvey

Billings Gram Baker Joey
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B: Baker Hudghton Dempster

HB: Wilkie Fisher Goddard

C: Montagna Hayes Dal Santo

HF: Hamill Riewoldt Membrey

F: Milne Gehrig Koschitzke

R: Ryder Harvey Steele

IC: Marshall Ball Steven Sinclair


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Aussie Jones at HB where he was an AA in 2004

Yes, I missed HF

It was the last position I was tossing up on
Hamill, Schneider, Gresham, Billings.

Hmm… I think Gresham
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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

Post: # 1949496Post older saint »

D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 19 Apr 2022 9:37am To the best of my knowledge we haven't seen a TOC since the end of 1999.
I thought it would be interesting to look at one from 2000 onward.

Criteria I have used:
- Minimum 50 games
- All Australian automatic inclusion

I have excluded Burke & Loewe who played many more seasons prior to 2000 than post who were both TOC selections in 1999/2000 and though played well to the end of their careers were superior pre 2000.
Burke - 1988- 2003
Loewe - 1986 - 2002
Harvey - 1988 - 2008 was AA in 2005 and played through to 2008.

Really struggled for a ruck combination as Everitt didn't play 50 for us post 2000 and we traded McEvoy before he blossomed.
Key backs were a challenge with no stand out brutes or real talls other than Carslile, but gun medium tall defenders.

I'd expect Sinclair, Marshall, King, Gresham to be in there and left them out for now as still early days though could be easily included.

I've probably missed an obvious inclusion but here is my shot!

B: Baker Hudgton Geary
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Steven
HF: Membrey Riewoldt Montagna
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill

R: Koschitzke Steele Harvey

INT: Ball Schneider Thompson Peckett

EMG: Dempster Gilbert X Clarke Gram Maguire Armitage
Ok so using your criteria automatic selections are : Steele, Roo, Dempster, Milne, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna ,Hayes, Fisher, Ball, Jones, Gehrig, Harvey.

I note you broke your own rule excluding Dempster :wink:


B: Jones, , Hudgton, Baker
HB: Dempster, Fisher , Goddard
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Membrey, Roo, Schnieder
F: Milne, Gehrig,, Kosi
Foll: Marshall, Harvey, Ball
Int: Blake, Ross, Steven, Gilbert


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Blake and Peckett? or outside the criteria?


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

Post: # 1949500Post skeptic »

wally wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 12:36pm I assumed it was Aussie Jones
Hahaha of course it was

I was like why is Clint Jones on a HBF… surely not


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Coach?

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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 2:22pm Coach?

;)
Brendon Lade obviously, 35% clear of the next best win ratio.


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

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Ross Lyon - Development Coach


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Re: Team of the "new" Century!

Post: # 1949547Post D.B.Cooper »

older saint wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 1:44pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Tue 19 Apr 2022 9:37am To the best of my knowledge we haven't seen a TOC since the end of 1999.
I thought it would be interesting to look at one from 2000 onward.

Criteria I have used:
- Minimum 50 games
- All Australian automatic inclusion

I have excluded Burke & Loewe who played many more seasons prior to 2000 than post who were both TOC selections in 1999/2000 and though played well to the end of their careers were superior pre 2000.
Burke - 1988- 2003
Loewe - 1986 - 2002
Harvey - 1988 - 2008 was AA in 2005 and played through to 2008.

Really struggled for a ruck combination as Everitt didn't play 50 for us post 2000 and we traded McEvoy before he blossomed.
Key backs were a challenge with no stand out brutes or real talls other than Carslile, but gun medium tall defenders.

I'd expect Sinclair, Marshall, King, Gresham to be in there and left them out for now as still early days though could be easily included.

I've probably missed an obvious inclusion but here is my shot!

B: Baker Hudgton Geary
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Steven
HF: Membrey Riewoldt Montagna
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill

R: Koschitzke Steele Harvey

INT: Ball Schneider Thompson Peckett

EMG: Dempster Gilbert X Clarke Gram Maguire Armitage
Ok so using your criteria automatic selections are : Steele, Roo, Dempster, Milne, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna ,Hayes, Fisher, Ball, Jones, Gehrig, Harvey.

I note you broke your own rule excluding Dempster :wink:


B: Jones, , Hudgton, Baker
HB: Dempster, Fisher , Goddard
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Membrey, Roo, Schnieder
F: Milne, Gehrig,, Kosi
Foll: Marshall, Harvey, Ball
Int: Blake, Ross, Steven, Gilbert
Didn't realise Sean was AA.
Glad to alter it and add him in.
Aussie Jones was also AA.
Does Dempster replace Peckett, Geary, Baker or Schneider?


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Yorkeys wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 2:03pm Blake and Peckett? or outside the criteria?
I had Peckett on the bench and didn't include Blake.


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The_Dud wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 2:22pm Coach?

;)
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B.M wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 10:58am B: Dempster - Hudghton - Baker
HB: Gilbert - Fisher - Jones
C: Goddard - Hayes - Montagna
HF: - Reiwoldt - Dal Santo
F: Membrey - Gehrig - Milne
Foll: Marshall - Steele - Steven
Int: Harvey - Koschitzke - Ball - Ross
Emerg: Blake - Thompson - Voss - Armitage

Ruck - hardest to choose
Everett - B&F
Gardner - good
Marshall - RU B&F
Ryder Good
Kosi - longest but not really a ruckman

Many unlucky players
Everitt didn't play 50 between 2000-2002 when he departed.
B+F in 2001.


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B: Baker Hudgton Dempster
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Montagna
HF: Kosi Riewoldt Schneider
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill
R: Gardiner Harvey Steele
INT: Ball Steven Marshall Thompson


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desertsaint wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 7:30pm B: Baker Hudgton Dempster
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Montagna
HF: Kosi Riewoldt Schneider
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill
R: Gardiner Harvey Steele
INT: Ball Steven Marshall Thompson
About right. :wink:


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desertsaint wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 7:30pm B: Baker Hudgton Dempster
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Montagna
HF: Kosi Riewoldt Schneider
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill
R: Gardiner Harvey Steele
INT: Ball Steven Marshall Thompson
Very Good effort.
No Membrey?
I'd argue he'd be ahead of Kossie and Hamill as a player.


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A centre square set up of Harvey, Hayes and Steele with Ball on the bench...

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B: Baker Hudgton Dempster
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Montagna
HF: Hamil Riewoldt Membrey
F: Kosi Gehrig Milne
R: Marshall, Harvey Steele
INT: Ball Steven, Gilbert, Peckett

Emg Blake, Ross, Voss


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 9:26pm
desertsaint wrote: Wed 20 Apr 2022 7:30pm B: Baker Hudgton Dempster
HB: Goddard S.Fisher Jones
C: Dal Santo Hayes Montagna
HF: Kosi Riewoldt Schneider
F: Milne Gehrig Hamill
R: Gardiner Harvey Steele
INT: Ball Steven Marshall Thompson
Very Good effort.
No Membrey?
I'd argue he'd be ahead of Kossie and Hamill as a player.
not easy, but at their best both were better imo, and kosi can back up ruck. members could easily be there in place of either.


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