Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
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Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Seriously.... potential to cause injury in a contact sport, I'm gobsmacked
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Logic and common sense has nothing to do with it.
Buddy Franklin put a guy to sleep with an elbow a couple of years ago and Tom Hawkins busted Steve May’s eye socket with his elbow last year and the AFL deemed their actions as fair. These guys are franchise players for their clubs and they bring in $$ for the AFL
The AFL match review and the AFL tribunal do as they please based on maximising profits for their business
You can crack a guys skull open (Giansirracusa on Kosi) or you can break someone’s jaw (McKay on Clark) and it’s ok, where as if you happen to stand your ground and a skinny kid with weak neck muscles runs into you… it’s your fault that they suffer whiplash!!
Meantime Willie Rioli was cited for what clearly looked like a reckless act and a late bump. The West Coast Eagles appealed and got him off. His legal team successfully argued that he should be allowed to jump and use his hip to smash players in the head!!
We are just a poor club and we have to do what we’re told. St Kilda cops the bans so that the AFL provide the wider public the perception that they’re protecting the head and all that crap!!
Buddy Franklin put a guy to sleep with an elbow a couple of years ago and Tom Hawkins busted Steve May’s eye socket with his elbow last year and the AFL deemed their actions as fair. These guys are franchise players for their clubs and they bring in $$ for the AFL
The AFL match review and the AFL tribunal do as they please based on maximising profits for their business
You can crack a guys skull open (Giansirracusa on Kosi) or you can break someone’s jaw (McKay on Clark) and it’s ok, where as if you happen to stand your ground and a skinny kid with weak neck muscles runs into you… it’s your fault that they suffer whiplash!!
Meantime Willie Rioli was cited for what clearly looked like a reckless act and a late bump. The West Coast Eagles appealed and got him off. His legal team successfully argued that he should be allowed to jump and use his hip to smash players in the head!!
We are just a poor club and we have to do what we’re told. St Kilda cops the bans so that the AFL provide the wider public the perception that they’re protecting the head and all that crap!!
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
This along with their stupid new rules, constant tinkering of the game, high horse phoney moralising which they never live up to, and general authoritarianism has really put me off from attending games.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Is Paddy just another victim of the PC brigade of urgers and AFL arse licking jurnos? I would argue that of course he is.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
The whiplash happened as the Hawks was not braced for impact at all and so his head whiplashed forward into Paddy's shoulder. If he had any awareness he would have stiffened his neck and most likely would have not been concussed.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
We should take Legal Action against the AFL.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Is there a medical report from the Hawthorn Football club? I think they subbed him out because he had neck pain.saintsRrising wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 10:56am The whiplash happened as the Hawks was not braced for impact at all and so his head whiplashed forward into Paddy's shoulder. If he had any awareness he would have stiffened his neck and most likely would have not been concussed.
What I’d like to know is; was it really concussion that sidelined Will Day or was it whiplash?
All the injury lists from the AFL and all the footy journalists and media reporting says concussion but where is the official prognosis?
I’ve read the blurb from their club website for the match report and it doesn’t specifically say that he suffered concussion.
“Day remained on the ground for the closing minutes of the half but was substituted out of the game during the main break”
Someone should try and get evidence pointing to Will Day NOT having concussion and let’s embarrass the f*** out of the AFL
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Doesn’t the medical report have to be submitted to the AFL as part of the process which is then taken into account by Michael Wankerstian and the Kangaroo court?Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 1:06pmIs there a medical report from the Hawthorn Football club? I think they subbed him out because he had neck pain.saintsRrising wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 10:56am The whiplash happened as the Hawks was not braced for impact at all and so his head whiplashed forward into Paddy's shoulder. If he had any awareness he would have stiffened his neck and most likely would have not been concussed.
What I’d like to know is; was it really concussion that sidelined Will Day or was it whiplash?
All the injury lists from the AFL and all the footy journalists and media reporting says concussion but where is the official prognosis?
I’ve read the blurb from their club website for the match report and it doesn’t specifically say that he suffered concussion.
“Day remained on the ground for the closing minutes of the half but was substituted out of the game during the main break”
Someone should try and get evidence pointing to Will Day NOT having concussion and let’s embarrass the f*** out of the AFL
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
So that means that the next time a player takes a sitter, or attempts to, by taking a speccy on Paddy McCartin's shoulders could get weeks? Because he has been hurt that way before - by his own teammates sometimes.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
The contact was late. That’s why the Hawthorn player wasn’t expecting it. Paddy was apologetic because it was late and the kid was wide open.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 4:22pm The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
Had to be found guilty and because he was unfortunately concussed (and we know how serious that can be) he had to get a couple of weeks.
Ryder will know he shouldn’t have shirtfronted him.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
Gershwin wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 6:13pmThe contact was late. That’s why the Hawthorn player wasn’t expecting it. Paddy was apologetic because it was late and the kid was wide open.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 4:22pm The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
Had to be found guilty and because he was unfortunately concussed (and we know how serious that can be) he had to get a couple of weeks.
Ryder will know he shouldn’t have shirtfronted him.
If Paddy was seriously trying to shirt front the hawk, he would have been carried off on a stretcherGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 6:13pmThe contact was late. That’s why the Hawthorn player wasn’t expecting it. Paddy was apologetic because it was late and the kid was wide open.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 4:22pm The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
Had to be found guilty and because he was unfortunately concussed (and we know how serious that can be) he had to get a couple of weeks.
Ryder will know he shouldn’t have shirtfronted him.
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Re: Any potential to cause injury is usually deemed as high impact."
I agree with saynta It was not a shirt front he braced for contact & was pretty much stationary when Day ran into him. He was apologetic because that is the sort of bloke Paddy is, he didn't intentionally make contact with Day but was concerned when he realised what had happened. As saynta stated if he Paddy wanted to shirtfront him he would not be walking off the ground but I have moved on now bring on next weeksaynta wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 6:22pmGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 6:13pmThe contact was late. That’s why the Hawthorn player wasn’t expecting it. Paddy was apologetic because it was late and the kid was wide open.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 4:22pm The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
Had to be found guilty and because he was unfortunately concussed (and we know how serious that can be) he had to get a couple of weeks.
Ryder will know he shouldn’t have shirtfronted him.If Paddy was seriously trying to shirt front the hawk, he would have been carried off on a stretcherGershwin wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 6:13pmThe contact was late. That’s why the Hawthorn player wasn’t expecting it. Paddy was apologetic because it was late and the kid was wide open.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 13 Apr 2022 4:22pm The Hawthorn player didn’t see Paddy coming at all, or he did, disposed of the ball and was distracted. He is clearly watching the ball to his right as he collided.
So is a player responsible for looking where they are going?
Used to be a saying, “Play the ball, not the player”
People feel sorry for a player who wasn’t looking, didn’t see it coming.
Had to be found guilty and because he was unfortunately concussed (and we know how serious that can be) he had to get a couple of weeks.
Ryder will know he shouldn’t have shirtfronted him.