Ratts ahead of Tigers game.

[saynta]

" I feel like we are growing".

https://www.saints.com.au/video/1090546 ... 8693112001

[B.M]

The more I hear Ratten the more I am unconvinced

His behind the scenes R2 stuff was cringeworthy

[spert]

The more I hear Ratten the more I am unconvinced

His behind the scenes R2 stuff was cringeworthy

tend to agree

[Yorkeys]

Perceptions eh.

I thought he handled the questions well and with good humour. Confident. Most of the questions were silly or irrelevant to selection.

Are we not growing in confidence?

[SaintPav]

It’s a charade.

Gotta maintain appearances.

[WellardSaint]

If Darcy hadn't done his ankle, we'd have lost.

Battle's intercept marking saved us, in the absence of Darcy.

Our general play around the ground was second-rate and an embarrassment.
The win gives the coaching team an inflated and false idea of how 'good' we are.

We're rubbish, we'll get hammered by most teams

[Scollop]

The more I hear Ratten the more I am unconvinced

His behind the scenes R2 stuff was cringeworthy

What does it matter what words he says?

You’ve stated countless times that you don’t think coaches matter.

How do you rate the list manager and the people like Lethlean and the recruiting team?

You’ve said it’s the players and the list that counts…

Whether we like it or not we’re all banking on Hill, Ryder, Crouch, Howard, Wood, Higgins, Butler, Lienert, Hayes, and our other imports to help win us games.

[spert]

Coaches are integral to a team's performance- it has never been otherwise, and the higher level you go to, the more important a top coach is to get success..in any sport.

[Gershwin]

Coaches are integral to a team's performance- it has never been otherwise, and the higher level you go to, the more important a top coach is to get success..in any sport.

Totally agree.
Postecoglou has transformed Celtic and is 100% responsible for its current success.

[meher baba]

Coaches are important but they can’t be expected to turn straw into gold.

Ratten seems perfectly adequate to me. He hasn’t got the greatest list to work with, but he and his team have gotten a fair amount out of it.

Many of you have unrealistic expectations about what’s achievable with the current list.

[Vortex]

Coaches are important but they can’t be expected to turn straw into gold.

Ratten seems perfectly adequate to me. He hasn’t got the greatest list to work with, but he and his team have gotten a fair amount out of it.

Many of you have unrealistic expectations about what’s achievable with the current list.

Probably after the Covid synthesised results from 2020, however I recon most supporters recalibrated thier expectations in 2021.

I don't think many expect this list to be playing finals any time soon could be as far away as 2 to 3 years away.

[meher baba]

Coaches are important but they can’t be expected to turn straw into gold.

Ratten seems perfectly adequate to me. He hasn’t got the greatest list to work with, but he and his team have gotten a fair amount out of it.

Many of you have unrealistic expectations about what’s achievable with the current list.

Probably after the Covid synthesised results from 2020, however I recon most supporters recalibrated thier expectations in 2021.

I don't think many expect this list to be playing finals any time soon could be as far away as 2 to 3 years away.

Ratts’s achievements with the list in 2020 should not be sneezed at. He’s capable of doing something like it again, perhaps even this year. There’s enough talent on the books for us to aim for playing an elimination final - after all, we weren’t too far away from that last year - and even better than that if we’re lucky.

But some posters on here write like they think we have something like a premiership-winning list and, if we could just land a genius coach like Clarke, we’d be right there.

All I can say to that is dream on.

[Impatient Sainter]

The more I hear Ratten the more I am unconvinced

His behind the scenes R2 stuff was cringeworthy

I actually enjoy Ratts pressers, its the post game message to the members that I believe the club should scrap. It does no one any favours and is a pointless exercise.

We were all disappointed losing the 1st game after such a positive preseason, but lets not write Ratts off after two games.

[B.M]

Rambles

I just prefer people who are succinct and make sense

Don’t like people talking in circles, or waffling.

Coaches are of course important, but not the be all and end all like many think… they don’t control results, they can have an influence over result but ultimately it’s players who get it done, and generally great players

Name a great coach who didn’t have star players

[freely]

Often I think it's the synergy between great coach and great player - think sheedy-hurd, pagan-carey, even GT-Roo if you want to go there. The player can execute what the coach is selling.

[Yorkeys]

Billy Beane?

Say look at it this way. The pregame presser is an imposed unwanted obligation.

The format is video audience don't hear questions.
Footy journos seem pretty ordinary, questions appear to be how long is a piece of string type. What are your tactics, who is carrying injuries, who has mucked up blah blah.

Your have 10 minutes to indulge them. Can't offend, can't give anything away, but be entertaining.
We are not going to get a Gettysburg Address.
Ratts does the puff pieces ok.
Whatever he says in private to the players seems to work.
I think he is great. Our recruiting is great and the team is good.
Lighten up on the quest for a Billy Graham. There are no miracle workers.
Just guys working with the limitations of footy cliches and fools trying gotcha questions.

[saynta]

Billy Beane?

Say look at it this way. The pregame presser is an imposed unwanted obligation.

The format is video audience don't hear questions.
Footy journos seem pretty ordinary, questions appear to be how long is a piece of string type. What are your tactics, who is carrying injuries, who has mucked up blah blah.

Your have 10 minutes to indulge them. Can't offend, can't give anything away, but be entertaining.
We are not going to get a Gettysburg Address.
Ratts does the puff pieces ok.
Whatever he says in private to the players seems to work.
I think he is great. Our recruiting is great and the team is good.
Lighten up on the quest for a Billy Graham. There are no miracle workers.
Just guys working with the limitations of footy cliches and fools trying gotcha questions.

If Billy Graham was anything other than a charleton, he certainly wasn't a miracle worker.

I had a stall in the old southern stand when Billy Graham did his thing to about 100,000 people way back when. Selling normal football fare.

Only trouble is the pricks attending kept their hands in their pockets and didn't buy anything. Waste of a day.

Says something about god botherers. None of it good.

[Scollop]

Rambles

I just prefer people who are succinct and make sense

Don’t like people talking in circles, or waffling.

Coaches are of course important, but not the be all and end all like many think… they don’t control results, they can have an influence over result but ultimately it’s players who get it done, and generally great players

Name a great coach who didn’t have star players

He’s got an obligation to turn up in front of the media and do a press conference and answer questions.

He can’t be succinct when he has to fill in time and provide some context to each statement

He’s like a politician and he’s got to provide some fodder for the media to use. Joe Bjelke Peterson used to call it ‘feeding the chooks’

I’m like you. I don’t expect miracles from this current list in the next 2 years

[B.M]

What did you think of the list 2013-2019

A finals list at any point?

[cwrcyn]

Great lists make great coaches. Has always been so.

Mediocre playing lists don't sit at the top of the ladder at season's end

We can throw up all kinds of questions about Ratten and make uninformed judgements, but I think we can all agree that our list is not in the top 4 of this competition.

We still need one more elite midfielder, one more solid, dependable 200cm key defender, and another 205cm solid ruckman after Ryder retires this year. Only then will be able to make genuine top 4 claims and challenge.

If Owens, Windhager, and NWM make huge strides this year, that will certainly help. It's a pity Heath is so young. I like what I see with him. As for the 200cm defender, let's hope Adams can develop, but again, he's two years away at best

[meher baba]

What did you think of the list 2013-2019

A finals list at any point?

Nope

[Scollop]

What did you think of the list 2013-2019

A finals list at any point?

That’s an easy question to answer

I think we should have made finals in 2017.

We had Jake Carlisle and Nathan Brown in KP defence. Leigh Montagna and Jarryn Geary (captain in 2017) were the generals in the backline and we had Sam Gilbert still playing good footy. Can’t remember if Sean Dempster played that year.

Seb Ross and a fit and healthy Dylan Roberton were both in the best form of their careers in 2017. We were strong up forward. Josh Bruce, Membrey and Nick Riewoldt were our go to KP Forwards. McCartin was out with concussion during the last half of that year.

Billy Longer had his best year in 2017 and was a very good tap ruckman. Jack Steven was good and Dave Armitage still had run in his legs. Jack Billings was consistent and we had some young stars emerging in Steele and Gresham

We had 4-5 years of a rebuild up until that stage and we recruited to make finals at the end of 2016. We picked up guys like Nathan Brown to bolster our defence and Koby Stephens in our midfield.

[B.M]

Are you sure about all of that?

Where did we finish 2017?

Ross was B&F in 2017 and apparently he’s hopeless?!