Yes and it's not close.saynta wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 12:29pmWorse than Rix?CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:58am29 and 7 tackles I reckon he did his part.spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:54am I'm sure Kent was trying hard, so don't bag him. If he had not played, we still would have been beaten due to the rubbish midfield effort. Where's our captain so far- he should be putting in a bigger effort to lead the team. There was bugger-all leadership the other night.
Kent cost us the game he is actually the worst player I've seen at StKilda.
Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Had little effect on the outcome.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:58am29 and 7 tackles I reckon he did his part.spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:54am I'm sure Kent was trying hard, so don't bag him. If he had not played, we still would have been beaten due to the rubbish midfield effort. Where's our captain so far- he should be putting in a bigger effort to lead the team. There was bugger-all leadership the other night.
Kent cost us the game he is actually the worst player I've seen at StKilda.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Isn’t that kind of the point?spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 1:13pmHad little effect on the outcome.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:58am29 and 7 tackles I reckon he did his part.spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:54am I'm sure Kent was trying hard, so don't bag him. If he had not played, we still would have been beaten due to the rubbish midfield effort. Where's our captain so far- he should be putting in a bigger effort to lead the team. There was bugger-all leadership the other night.
Kent cost us the game he is actually the worst player I've seen at StKilda.
I would say stuffing up a certain goal at a critical time by failing at a skill my 3yo nephew has mastered contributed quite significantly to the result.
No one was expecting miracles but the ‘other people played poorly too’ excuse is getting laughably thin too.
Owen had an average game but was debuting
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Who had little effect?spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 1:13pmHad little effect on the outcome.CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:58am29 and 7 tackles I reckon he did his part.spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:54am I'm sure Kent was trying hard, so don't bag him. If he had not played, we still would have been beaten due to the rubbish midfield effort. Where's our captain so far- he should be putting in a bigger effort to lead the team. There was bugger-all leadership the other night.
Kent cost us the game he is actually the worst player I've seen at StKilda.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Kent was atrocious but not sure why Dan Butler gets a pass. He keeps going at this rate I highly doubt he will get another contract.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
I don't think Butler gets a pass.
Does Ratten and co. get a pass?
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Good question, but watching live it's the workrate difference for mine.
Kent does not pressure, chase or push up and back nearly as hard as Butler does.
Lonie must shake his head that he got the @rse while Kent is still running around on a Friday night.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Fair point.
I would say Butler has been better overall in the time period, is younger and didn’t make a fatal/atrocious mistake when it mattered most.
I can accept that players get beaten on the day. Especially players in the FP type position/role but when we get into this territory of being actively harmful to the team’s performance… that’s another thing.
Butler still had 13 touches and 6 tackles. Tried hard but was beaten
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
I would honestly play Geary as a defensive forward before giving Kent another go.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Kent should have been delisted after last year. The only good game be played was against Freo in the final round. It was too little, too late.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
It's quite staggering that there's a guy on our list who can't hold a chest mark. Baffling selection - I expected him to be terrible and he was even worse that I thought.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Lyon only needed role players. Current gameplan - what are the roles?
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Eddy played 33 games in 5 seasons
So Lyon didn’t play him that much?!
Funnily enough
8 of his games were finals
So Lyon didn’t play him that much?!
Funnily enough
8 of his games were finals
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Yep along with GearySainternist wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 4:17pm Kent should have been delisted after last year. The only good game be played was against Freo in the final round. It was too little, too late.
Club can’t and won’t make the tough calls - it’s all cozy “buddy buddy” down there…
Ratts gives us an update on Gearys return from injury like a beat up small defender with suspect foot skills is the messiah
But makes no mention of the future in Bytel et al - seriously worried
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 1:02pmYes and it's not close.saynta wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 12:29pmWorse than Rix?CURLY wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:58am29 and 7 tackles I reckon he did his part.spert wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:54am I'm sure Kent was trying hard, so don't bag him. If he had not played, we still would have been beaten due to the rubbish midfield effort. Where's our captain so far- he should be putting in a bigger effort to lead the team. There was bugger-all leadership the other night.
Kent cost us the game he is actually the worst player I've seen at StKilda.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Might I be bold to suggest that our girls are better chest marks and would have held on to that sitter.mad saint guy wrote: ↑Tue 22 Mar 2022 2:36am It's quite staggering that there's a guy on our list who can't hold a chest mark. Baffling selection - I expected him to be terrible and he was even worse that I thought.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Don't forget that Sharman who is a great mark and a goal kicker, didn't get a game as he has to work on his contested marking. Kent can't hold a chest mark, King drops marks he should be taking..- this club is really switched on
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Kent is a real confidence player, without things going his way he drops his head too quickly. The club made an error giving him another years contract and I agree with the thread he shouldnt be playing.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Dropping chest marks, making highly visible and atrocious errors is embarrassing but it is not the crux of it. If he was there to get that mark he was at least doing something right.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
Dropping chest marks, making highly visible and atrocious errors is embarrassing but it is not the crux of it. If he was there to get that mark he was at least doing something right.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
It would be fine if he had other attributes.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar 2022 2:26pm Dropping chest marks, making highly visible and atrocious errors is embarrassing but it is not the crux of it. If he was there to get that mark he was at least doing something right.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
That was quite literally the one opportunity he had the entire game to do something worthwhile that didn’t involve the opposition handing him the ball on the goal line.
Butler has copped some flak this thread but he at least has good games every now and then, and Higgins for all of his faults at least creates opportunities for himself and others.
If your whole skill set is to get given the ball when your standing by yourself (which is mostly how Kent tends to score)… then you have to make your 4 possessions count.
He needed to take the mark, go back and slot that goal cool as anything. Anything else is a waste of time
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
I agree.skeptic wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar 2022 3:06pmIt would be fine if he had other attributes.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar 2022 2:26pm Dropping chest marks, making highly visible and atrocious errors is embarrassing but it is not the crux of it. If he was there to get that mark he was at least doing something right.
1991? 2? ish
VFL Park Waverly
St Kilda playing in their first final since dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Saints are up and about..but Geelong is coming hard, and now they are over running us.
It is heartbreak kick-by-kick, play-by-play..you know the feeling.
Plugger missing several easy set shots (like King on Friday?
Ball on the wing, right near where I was sitting. Straight into the trusty embrace of Paul Harding. St Kilda’s reliable short Ruckman in anew Sheldon-led world.
Harding pushes out the best chest, and his arms strut forward like a pair of forklift forks. In goes the shiny red spinning ball, and bang!..it bounces right off his chest like a basketball!!
Harding was a sold player. Just a miss.
Geary, dropping that simple chesty in that final (Richmond 2022?!
It happens..
But the thing with Kent is way more and deeper..and the game plan, and the lack of personnel, and the culture, and it all adds to the pressure.
He can drop a chesty..it’s Ok
But, heaven please, help us in the bigger picture.
That was quite literally the one opportunity he had the entire game to do something worthwhile that didn’t involve the opposition handing him the ball on the goal line.
Butler has copped some flak this thread but he at least has good games every now and then, and Higgins for all of his faults at least creates opportunities for himself and others.
If your whole skill set is to get given the ball when your standing by yourself (which is mostly how Kent tends to score)… then you have to make your 4 possessions count.
He needed to take the mark, go back and slot that goal cool as anything. Anything else is a waste of time
I was banging on about Kent and Parker too, way, way back. I can’t see how we kept him, and concluded that it is a symptom of a poor culture/cultural issues. Basically, I figured Kent was co-operative and willing and a coach favorite.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
He also gets along well with the leadership group and the selectors and he used to laugh very loudly whenever Richo made a jokeshanegrambeau wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar 2022 3:14pm
I can’t see how we kept him, and concluded that it is a symptom of a poor culture/cultural issues. Basically, I figured Kent was co-operative and willing and a coach favorite.
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Re: Ratten would be a fool to ever play Kent again!
My underlying fear is that Bytel will grow tired of waiting for a proper chance and will request a trade. Some other club will then utilise his talent and develop him into a decent midfielderTeflon wrote: ↑Tue 22 Mar 2022 11:08pm
Yep along with Geary
Club can’t and won’t make the tough calls - it’s all cozy “buddy buddy” down there…
Ratts gives us an update on Gearys return from injury like a beat up small defender with suspect foot skills is the messiah
But makes no mention of the future in Bytel et al - seriously worried
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