Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
He played for the “probables” in match sim and drills this morning. Pretty much everyone you would expect was there but there weren’t 22 of them.
“Possibles” included Owens, Windhager, Sharman, Joyce, Campbell, Long, Byrnes, Bytel, Connolly, Geary, Highmore, Kent, Lienert, NWM.
Maybe three of those would make the 22.
“Possibles” included Owens, Windhager, Sharman, Joyce, Campbell, Long, Byrnes, Bytel, Connolly, Geary, Highmore, Kent, Lienert, NWM.
Maybe three of those would make the 22.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Not sure if Byrnes is having a good pre season however with Jones and Billings out then he could add a bit of speed through the midfield to HF and out on a wing. If he can step up then that would give our midfield some extra speed.kosifantutti wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 2:42pm He played for the “probables” in match sim and drills this morning. Pretty much everyone you would expect was there but there weren’t 22 of them.
“Possibles” included Owens, Windhager, Sharman, Joyce, Campbell, Long, Byrnes, Bytel, Connolly, Geary, Highmore, Kent, Lienert, NWM.
Maybe three of those would make the 22.
If Highmore has recovered from the corky then he's a lock you'd think as it was reported he was going really well. Maybe Long is my third pick but who knows how he's been going over the pre season.
I think Ratts will go with as much proven quality as he can for round 1 at a guess.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Highmore didn’t play against Carlton or Essendon when he was available, it seems the third tall defender is Battle at this point in time.Vortex wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 3:36pmNot sure if Byrnes is having a good pre season however with Jones and Billings out then he could add a bit of speed through the midfield to HF and out on a wing. If he can step up then that would give our midfield some extra speed.kosifantutti wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 2:42pm He played for the “probables” in match sim and drills this morning. Pretty much everyone you would expect was there but there weren’t 22 of them.
“Possibles” included Owens, Windhager, Sharman, Joyce, Campbell, Long, Byrnes, Bytel, Connolly, Geary, Highmore, Kent, Lienert, NWM.
Maybe three of those would make the 22.
If Highmore has recovered from the corky then he's a lock you'd think as it was reported he was going really well. Maybe Long is my third pick but who knows how he's been going over the pre season.
I think Ratts will go with as much proven quality as he can for round 1 at a guess.
Personally I prefer Highmore.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
I don't think he wasn't' available because of an injury in a VFL match? it sounded like he was carving it up prior to the injury. I think he was one of the few positives out of 2021 and I'm hoping he goes next level this year.D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 5:38pmHighmore didn’t play against Carlton or Essendon when he was available, it seems the third tall defender is Battle at this point in time.Vortex wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 3:36pmNot sure if Byrnes is having a good pre season however with Jones and Billings out then he could add a bit of speed through the midfield to HF and out on a wing. If he can step up then that would give our midfield some extra speed.kosifantutti wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 2:42pm He played for the “probables” in match sim and drills this morning. Pretty much everyone you would expect was there but there weren’t 22 of them.
“Possibles” included Owens, Windhager, Sharman, Joyce, Campbell, Long, Byrnes, Bytel, Connolly, Geary, Highmore, Kent, Lienert, NWM.
Maybe three of those would make the 22.
If Highmore has recovered from the corky then he's a lock you'd think as it was reported he was going really well. Maybe Long is my third pick but who knows how he's been going over the pre season.
I think Ratts will go with as much proven quality as he can for round 1 at a guess.
Personally I prefer Highmore.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Hayes looks an OK footballer
Runs heavy, and looks a bit slow
Will be between him and Campbell for a spot
Undersized as a ruckman, probably not skilled enough as a tall forward
But could pinch hit
Might be wrong, but looks very much a state league footballer
Good for depth though
Runs heavy, and looks a bit slow
Will be between him and Campbell for a spot
Undersized as a ruckman, probably not skilled enough as a tall forward
But could pinch hit
Might be wrong, but looks very much a state league footballer
Good for depth though
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Is it just me but is he a ringer for J Blake?
The body shape, the gait, the movement (agree he’s heavy) but a good old loyal toiler who’ll give you everything?
The body shape, the gait, the movement (agree he’s heavy) but a good old loyal toiler who’ll give you everything?
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Not the first time I've heard this said. Undersize ruckman/utility with a workmanlike attitude.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Agree that, at this stage, he is depth only. With Ryder out Marshall takes first ruck and Hayes pinch hits. Once Ryder is back then Marshal takes second ruck and Hayes will be omitted. Of sourse (heaven forbid) we have 2 or more injuries to any tall(ish) forwards then he will also get a gig.
Campbell will only play as a first ruck (too slow for a 2nd ruck/fill in) so will only play if both Ryder and Marshall are out.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Well you very wrong about Highmore so if I were you I'd reserve judgement. He needs half a dozen games to show his worth.B.M wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 8:35pm Hayes looks an OK footballer
Runs heavy, and looks a bit slow
Will be between him and Campbell for a spot
Undersized as a ruckman, probably not skilled enough as a tall forward
But could pinch hit
Might be wrong, but looks very much a state league footballer
Good for depth though
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Based on training today, the following are definitely playing.
Gresham
Crouch
Ross
Hill
Steele
King
Butler
Marshall
Howard
Higgins
Battle
Membrey
Webster
Wood
Paton
Sinclair
McKenzie
Wilkie
Hayes
So another three plus a sub can be added to that.
Gresham
Crouch
Ross
Hill
Steele
King
Butler
Marshall
Howard
Higgins
Battle
Membrey
Webster
Wood
Paton
Sinclair
McKenzie
Wilkie
Hayes
So another three plus a sub can be added to that.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Always a fan of Highmore as a intercept defender (he’s better than Coffield)
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Was wrong about the extent of his kicking deficiencies … he’s not a good kick by any means, but not as bad as his first couple of games suggested
BTW
Highmore is currently sitting outside the team
Howard, Battle and Wilkie are locks
Webster Sinclair and Hill will make up the back 6
Paton the spare
Leaving Highmore as an emergency
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Was wrong about the extent of his kicking deficiencies … he’s not a good kick by any means, but not as bad as his first couple of games suggested
BTW
Highmore is currently sitting outside the team
Howard, Battle and Wilkie are locks
Webster Sinclair and Hill will make up the back 6
Paton the spare
Leaving Highmore as an emergency
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
BM if you read his past coaches comments he (Hayes) is a very smart player, with a huge heart and wills himself to contest after contest.B.M wrote: ↑Tue 15 Mar 2022 8:35pm Hayes looks an OK footballer
Runs heavy, and looks a bit slow
Will be between him and Campbell for a spot
Undersized as a ruckman, probably not skilled enough as a tall forward
But could pinch hit
Might be wrong, but looks very much a state league footballer
Good for depth though
Granted he is not quick but his footy smarts, maturity and huge marking ability will IMO see him adapt to the level. He will struggle against genuine ruckman but we can live with that if he provides his other attributes.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
The last time we went with a forward/undersized back up ruck
It was Josh Bruce 196cm
Place used to go into meltdown
Hayes
194 and not the running power of Bruce
It was Josh Bruce 196cm
Place used to go into meltdown
Hayes
194 and not the running power of Bruce
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
We played at least two games last year with Marshall as the only ruck and Darragh Joyce as the back up.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Jack Hayes is an awkward size and no doubt, he is used to being underestimated.
He has surpassed 'good' state league footballer, as his disposal stats in the SANFL have steadily increased and, infact doubled over 5 years, during his transformation from handy marking, high fwd, to dominant FWD/Ruck. His recent clearance numbers are no joke.
He is cherry ripe to enter our best 25 and make an instant impact in supporting Marshall, King and Membrey.
If he plays ahead of Sharman, Cooper can consider himself unlucky, with a point to prove in the VFL, although he is not likely to see much ruck action there either with Campbell set to dominate and Heath developing. Then there is Adams, who is also a part time ruck/key position player.
Having players like Wood, Hayes and Sharman to choose from for 3rd forwards is a blessing. Perhaps Sharman can develop a strong running game over the first half of the Sandy season and push himself in.
He has surpassed 'good' state league footballer, as his disposal stats in the SANFL have steadily increased and, infact doubled over 5 years, during his transformation from handy marking, high fwd, to dominant FWD/Ruck. His recent clearance numbers are no joke.
He is cherry ripe to enter our best 25 and make an instant impact in supporting Marshall, King and Membrey.
If he plays ahead of Sharman, Cooper can consider himself unlucky, with a point to prove in the VFL, although he is not likely to see much ruck action there either with Campbell set to dominate and Heath developing. Then there is Adams, who is also a part time ruck/key position player.
Having players like Wood, Hayes and Sharman to choose from for 3rd forwards is a blessing. Perhaps Sharman can develop a strong running game over the first half of the Sandy season and push himself in.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
He’s Blake 2.0, with a knife and fork haircut!
Mind you, Blake was a ringer for Adrian Fletcher lol
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Sainternist wrote: ↑Wed 16 Mar 2022 11:28amHe’s Blake 2.0, with a knife and fork haircut!
Mind you, Blake was a ringer for Adrian Fletcher lol
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Hayes must be doing well to push Sharman out.
Did we overrate Sharman?
Did we overrate Sharman?
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
Yet to see Hayes win a tap out
He has good second and third efforts which is great, but agree he is depth only.
Prefer Sharman as a forward any day, but they need to be able to support Marshall in the ruck., so Hayes might get the early season nod.
He has good second and third efforts which is great, but agree he is depth only.
Prefer Sharman as a forward any day, but they need to be able to support Marshall in the ruck., so Hayes might get the early season nod.
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Re: Jack Hayes in running for a spot in round 1 team
I don’t know. I was speaking hypothetically.
I hope not. I liked what I’ve seen, so far.
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