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Re: Long

Post: # 1938555Post Beno88 »

In my opinion, Long is ahead of Coffield as a half back.


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Re: Long

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skeptic wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:16am
wally wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:05am So back when he was recruited does anyone remember what position he was supposed to fill? I think he was playing for Footscray reserves and expected to end up a bulldog
I believe it was HBF but am happy to be corrected
Did he kick a bag of goals in the VFL GF off the HFF?


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Re: Long

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Ghost Like wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:23am
skeptic wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:16am
wally wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:05am So back when he was recruited does anyone remember what position he was supposed to fill? I think he was playing for Footscray reserves and expected to end up a bulldog
I believe it was HBF but am happy to be corrected
Did he kick a bag of goals in the VFL GF off the HFF?
He kicked two goals, so a lolly bag.


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Re: Long

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Ghost Like wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:31am
Ghost Like wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:23am
skeptic wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:16am
wally wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:05am So back when he was recruited does anyone remember what position he was supposed to fill? I think he was playing for Footscray reserves and expected to end up a bulldog
I believe it was HBF but am happy to be corrected
Did he kick a bag of goals in the VFL GF off the HFF?
He kicked two goals, so a lolly bag.
My memory says it was more than that.


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Re: Long

Post: # 1938562Post The_Dud »

Kicked 6 in the prelim.

Interesting his draft profile notes "Highly rated for his clever ball use and polish by foot".

I think good/smart coaches get the best out of players, and I think Long still has a lot more potential in him.


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Re: Long

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So he was HFF to compete with Sinclair lonie Gresham Billings Hind even Geary then we recruit Butler and Higgins. Hard for a few of our players to cement a spot .


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Re: Long

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The_Dud wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 10:54am Kicked 6 in the prelim.

Interesting his draft profile notes "Highly rated for his clever ball use and polish by foot".

I think good/smart coaches get the best out of players, and I think Long still has a lot more potential in him.
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Re: Long

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I think great players get the best out of themselves


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Re: Long

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yep
he has been on our list since 2017
how "long" should we be keeping players on our list with the potential tag
reward & play the kids that show real talent


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Re: Long

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B.M wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 6:02pm I think great players get the best out of themselves
Every team should only have great players if they want to win the GF :roll: :?:

The last few GF winners have 22 blokes ALL with a reputation of being ‘great players’ right!? :shock: :?

Do you only want St Kilda to recruit great players…

Or are you saying that we should stop wasting our time and money on fitness staff, development staff and specialist coaches??

What is the point of another thread on Ben Long where you just repeat everything you’ve already stated

You’ve posted 15 times in the last 2 years telling us your opinion about Ben’s weaknesses and highlighting his average statistics

You and Richo would get along really well. The whole idea is to develop his strengths and utilise them for the benefit of team

Sometimes you just need to accept average. There is a reason for an average. We actually have a few players who have similar average career stats.


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Re: Long

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Really good consistent players have their game above the shoulders sorted out. Long has skills but lacks a lot of discipline and needs to concentrate on the ball, not the man.


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Re: Long

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Re: Long

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Really looking forward to watching him play in 22


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Re: Long

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Long is too short.


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Re: Long

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No

I just don’t really credit coaches for exceptional players performance that much

I also don’t blame them for average players performance

Coaches have a role to play - but it’s overstated

BTW
Don’t think I’ve ever started a thread on Ben Long

Except to say we clearly should’ve drafted Shai Bolton


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Re: Long

Post: # 1938613Post minneapolis »

The Fireman wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 8:16pm.
Well said. To the point.


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Re: Long

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minneapolis wrote: Tue 08 Feb 2022 2:28am
The Fireman wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 8:16pm.
Well said. To the point.
thanks I always try to be economical with my words.


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Re: Long

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Longy is surprisingly fumbly at a contest and agree, doesn’t get anywhere near enough possessions.
Forward is his best spot but doesn’t hit the score board.
I think he kicked 3 goals 11 behinds last year.
I know Ratten loves him but that’s likely wearing a bit thin.
In the scratch match on Friday, he barely touched it, despite playing with the side stacked with the better players.
Out of contract this year…watch this space!


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Re: Long

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Saintmike65 wrote: Sun 13 Feb 2022 11:48am Longy is surprisingly fumbly at a contest and agree, doesn’t get anywhere near enough possessions.
Forward is his best spot but doesn’t hit the score board.
I think he kicked 3 goals 11 behinds last year.
I know Ratten loves him but that’s likely wearing a bit thin.
In the scratch match on Friday, he barely touched it, despite playing with the side stacked with the better players.
Out of contract this year…watch this space!
Agree Mike if he doesnt have a really solid season this year I think he is in trouble. I believe I read that his name was thrown out there in the last trade period? If hes lucky another club might throw him a life line, but I fear this might be his last year at the Saints.


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Re: Long

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i for one am glad he has one more season to prove himself..I don't say that about a lot of players not getting the stats..just see something in the bloke


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Re: Long

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Interested to know what you see


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Re: Long

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B.M wrote: Sun 13 Feb 2022 6:13pm Interested to know what you see
i see potential
guess we are all in the same boat, so I hope you see what I'm tipping to see.


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Re: Long

Post: # 1938950Post Sainternist »

Could well be a make-or-break season for Benny. Hope he can find the type of form he showed in 2020. Would also like to see him start to mature and become more disciplined as a player.


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Re: Long

Post: # 1938955Post samuraisaint »

I agree with those on here that post that Long has a lot of potential. And he has shown a bit.
Some of the goals he has kicked mark him as very creative.
Plus I am a big fan of players who are not afraid to let the opposition know he's there.


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Re: Long

Post: # 1938958Post desertsaint »

The Fireman wrote: Mon 07 Feb 2022 8:16pm.
spot on


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